Xavier Lucas

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I’m so sick of these **** targeting calls man…I think most people are. Plus, there’s just no consistency, it’s all subjective. Sure, there’s guidelines, but at the end of the day it’s totally up to the refs. It just makes zero sense to call it on Lucas, but then you DON’T call it on that Ole Miss player who clearly was guilty of it against Mali?

Found it hilarious that when the hit on Mali was being reviewed for targeting, Kirby and Fowler asked the broadcast’s “Rules Expert” if he thought it was targeting and the guy pointed out the helmet to helmet contact and said he thought that it was and that the confirmation of the targeting call “wouldn’t take long”. However, when the officials ended up overturning the targeting call, the “Rules Expert” immediately pivoted to explaining why it wasn’t targeting and ultimately ended up agreeing with the overturn, lol. Just goes to illustrate how subjective and inconsistent the whole process is.
 
I would think they would take intent into account. With the hit on Mali, the defender appears intentional to strike helmet on helmet. In the Lucas replay, it's clear he is turning away from the head to head contact on a falling receiver.
Unfortunately, in my experience, overturning this call will be difficult. They will have to make sure that this cannot be considered targeting in the most generalized and loosely applicable form of the definition. They don’t have the leeway to judge if this is targeting. Their mandate will be to overturn only if “under no circumstances does this play meet the targeting standards”. Hoping I am wrong.
 
Unfortunately, in my experience, overturning this call will be difficult. They will have to make sure that this cannot be considered targeting in the most generalized and loosely applicable form of the definition. They don’t have the leeway to judge if this is targeting. Their mandate will be to overturn only if “under no circumstances does this play meet the targeting standards”. Hoping I am wrong.
Listen, if you watch the video frame by frame, it is as clear as Day Lucas turns his head to the left to avoid making contact and leads with the shoulder, which is what makes first contact and secondly, it’s only the side of his helmet near his ear hole, which makes contact with the other players helmet. The crown of Lucas’s helmet never makes contact with the other players helmet. This will get reviewed and if there’s justice, we’ll get overturned.
 
I would think they would take intent into account. With the hit on Mali, the defender appears intentional to strike helmet on helmet. In the Lucas replay, it's clear he is turning away from the head to head contact on a falling receiver.
I disagree. I think the hit in Mali was the kid looking upfield at the ball in the air. He then turned and ran into him while making the tackle. It was truly helmet on helmet though. Lucas meant to tackle the receiver, not spear him. The shoulder hit and head slip is the tell tale that it was incidental to the contact. He was diving too (parallel to the ground) to make the tackle to limit yardage, not create more contact through supposed “launch”. The call against Lucas is a very bad call imo, especially to uphold it. It neeeds to be reversed. I don’t think the hit on Mali was malicious or intentional either. One being reversed upon review should have meant that they both were.
 
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Any word on the appeal? Anyone with a brain knows that hit wasn’t targeting and I can’t believe a player might miss 1H of a National Championship for it.
Josh Pate had a segment on targeting and specifically was talking about Lucas, 1. he was saying how dumb it was to have this serious of a penalty for something that no one knows what it actually looks like and 2. described the lucas hit perfectly, said these guys on defense are moving as fast as cars in a school zone, he makes the decision to go lower, form tackle in the chest or thigh area and the offensive player falls down in that split second into the strike zone and now you call helmet to helmet. It was all done because of the bad press about concussions in football. I do think there should be some type of caveat for players that are making tackles waist high. That Lucas hit it looks like he is only 2-3 ft off the turf, no way that should be targeting, keep it obvious when someone goes for the head or legit launches their helmet like a spear.

One other interesting thing in a different Pate segment he said he asked draft kings or whoever if miami indiana was played week 1 in nashville, neutral field, what would the spread be? And they went back and said Miami favored by 6.5 that is an INSANE season swing to go from a TD favorite to a TD underdog over the course of 15 games.
 
Any word on the appeal? Anyone with a brain knows that hit wasn’t targeting and I can’t believe a player might miss 1H of a National Championship for it.
All I can hope is the appeal is going on behind the scenes and we get some good news on it because it clearly wasn’t targeting. The funny thing about targeting, is even the officials don’t know what the **** it is. Smh
 
One other interesting thing in a different Pate segment he said he asked draft kings or whoever if miami indiana was played week 1 in nashville, neutral field, what would the spread be? And they went back and said Miami favored by 6.5 that is an INSANE season swing to go from a TD favorite to a TD underdog over the course of 15 games.

It is actually a bigger swing as Miami/Indiana is at Hardrock vs neutral field. 6.5 to -8.5 with 3 points more for home field. An 18-point swing!
 
I disagree. I think the hit in Mali was the kid looking upfield at the ball in the air. He then turned and ran into him while making the tackle. It was truly helmet on helmet though. Lucas meant to tackle the receiver, not spear him. The shoulder hit and head slip is the tell tale that it was incidental to the contact. He was diving too (parallel to the ground) to make the tackle to limit yardage, not create more contact through supposed “launch”. The call against Lucas is a very bad call imo, especially to uphold it. It neeeds to be reversed. I don’t think the hit on Mali was malicious or intentional either. One being reversed upon review should have meant that they both were.
Yeah the hit on Mali was just a football collision gone wrong

Lucas tried to go low and away and the WR leaned right into it

Kicking kids out of games for this is the same punishment as literally spitting in someone’s face on the field

I get why the rule was made and it’s obviously been successful in some ways…but the punishment rarely fits the crime and that’s a huge problem
 
It is actually a bigger swing as Miami/Indiana is at Hardrock vs neutral field. 6.5 to -8.5 with 3 points more for home field. An 18-point swing!

I wonder what the spread would be if had beaten SMU and UL, won ACC, and ran table through playoffs. My guess we would have been ranked #2 behind IU going into post season? They get the top spot because of B1G perception. -3 pt dogs?
 
I wonder what the spread would be if had beaten SMU and UL, won ACC, and ran table through playoffs. My guess we would have been ranked #2 behind IU going into post season? They get the top spot because of B1G perception. -3 pt dogs?
Honestly it’s helping us out and leads to a huge story when we win by 10
 
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If Indiana wins, it would be the lowest-ranked preseason team since Auburn, at 22nd, to win the National Championship. Indiana started at 19/20 in the rankings.

Yes, multiple teams claim titles while being unranked preseason:
GT 1990
BYU 1984
Miami 1983
Clemson 1981
 
If Indiana wins, it would be the lowest-ranked preseason team since Auburn, at 22nd, to win the National Championship. Indiana started at 19/20 in the rankings.

Yes, multiple teams claim titles while being unranked preseason:
GT 1990
BYU 1984
Miami 1983
Clemson 1981
The ACC coming with it!
 
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