X had 17 targets?!!

[sharkindaawater]

Name all the “ forces “ to X that turned into ints? A high majority of them are wide open to X, because he stays open most plays. Ironically the bad Int Tvd threw he had X wide open at the top of the screen. I sure wish he’d “ forced ” that one to X instead.

you're one of the smartest posters on here. A lot of respect for you and I know you know what you're talking about but if you don't think tvd forces throws to x and that it has a negative impact on the team you are dead wrong. I don't know football as well as a lot of you, but it is clear as day he is forcing throws to X, not going through his progressions and not reading the field. You are correct a lot of times x stays open, but TVD absolutely forces throws to x when other receivers are wide open. Horton would have walked in end zone but instead he only looked down field to x. It happened probably 5-10 times a game last year. I'm not one of those fans that claims to know everything, I can admit when I'm wrong but no ******* way you can say TVD doesn't force it to X. It is a big problem, and I can almost guarantee whoever takes over for TVD next year will move the ball around better then TVD. Not saying they all turn into INT's, but he's missed so many points to stubbornness and incompetence. He can't read defenses and can't spread the ball around. TVD is not the only problem, but he is a big reason we lost the last two games. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.

 

[moshated305]

Of course not but we don't have Hill or Waddle. That's an atrocious analogy.

The single-season record holder for receptions in the history of the school is Charleston Rambo in 2021. He caught 79 balls in 12 games.
Xavier Restrepo is on pace to catch 94 passes in 12 games.

The single-season record holder for receiving yards in the history of the school is Charleston Rambo in 2021. He finished with 1,172 yards in 12 games.
Xavier Restrepo is on pace to finish with 1,148 yards in 12 games.

Of all the things to cry about, a kid on pace to have the best statistical season in the history of the school simply cannot be one. It just can't. There has to be 50 things we can ***** about before we get to a place where we scream over this.

I'm convinced that these dudes hate TVD so much that even the things you does well get turned into a negative. The defense gave up 41, we had a RB fumble at the goaline and our center just throw the ball on the ground but the loss is on TVD for throwing to X too much lol

Obviously the pick was horrible and he struggled against GT but he still came back late and led us to what should have been a come from behind win.

 

[sharkindaawater]

Bingo. As I said it’s because X is his boy and not the guy they’d like to have the targets. If it were 4 or 3 they’d be quiet. End of story.

I personally can't wait till their both gone. They both hold this offense back. Brashard should be taking most of x snaps and TVD is just wasting Miami's time. He's not a winner. TVD and X are holding back this offense. Nobody will agree but we will be better with a QB that actually spreads the ball around and a slot receiver that's actually fast. This season isn't about wining to most people on this board it's about defending TVD and X which is getting harder for a lot of you

 

[STG]

I love X but he isn’t number one. Put a different QB that can check down and see the field and X isn’t leading in receptions. I’m done with this silly debate.

Not with the other options currently on the team. And you're right, it is silly as **** to claim all those guys you mentioned are animals when none have proven anything at this level. Let me guess, they are Greentree All Americans.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

I personally can't wait till their both gone. They both hold this offense back. Brashard should be taking most of x snaps and TVD is just wasting Miami's time. He's not a winner. TVD and X are holding back this offense. Nobody will agree but we will be better with a QB that actually spreads the ball around and a slot receiver that's actually fast. This season isn't about wining to most people on this board it's about defending TVD and X which is getting harder for a lot of you

Again, not real people. I refuse to believe it.

 

[sharkindaawater]

Nobody said we don't have good talent. But we sure as **** don't have anyone that is a clear cut #1. Restrepo is our closest option to a true #1 however.

And the point is pretty clear to me. People are complaining that TVD is locked into Restrepo too much. Going into the UNC game Restrepo had 36 receptions, George had 24 and Young had 21. Restrepo had 44 targets to Georges 32. A difference of 2.4 targets per game before UNC. Do you really some drastic difference before the UNC game? Because I don't. The distribution seems pretty good to me.

People just want to complain because Restrepo had 1 game with an extremely high amount of targets. If that happened every game, I would get the complaining. But the fact is that it doesn't.

Sometimes the stat line doesn't say it all. Numbers don't always tell the whole story. TVD 100% locks into x when other people are wide open. He does not go through his reads or look off defenders. If TVD was that good, we wouldn't have been 6-6 and dog **** the last three years. Blame coaching absolutely. Well, those coaches recruited TVD and aren't here anymore. TVD is mid, has been mid. X is an average receiver that is a Gordy go hard so coaches love him and the real talent the type that can score easily like Brashard and ray ray sit on the bench. Everyone is going to hate this and tell me I'm wrong but that's because the amount of people on this board that gobble x and tvd's nuts is shocking. They are both mid and overhyped just like miami is every year.

 

[STG]

I personally can't wait till their both gone. They both hold this offense back. Brashard should be taking most of x snaps and TVD is just wasting Miami's time. He's not a winner. TVD and X are holding back this offense. Nobody will agree but we will be better with a QB that actually spreads the ball around and a slot receiver that's actually fast. This season isn't about wining to most people on this board it's about defending TVD and X which is getting harder for a lot of you.

Lol, what? Hard to defend a QB who is top 15 in every statistical category? A WR who is top 15 in most?

And if you feel they are holding us back and we have so many better options, who chooses who gets to play? And who chooses how many snaps each guy gets?

You should be voicing your concerns about our WR coach, OC and HC than because they decide who plays and how much.

 

[sharkindaawater]

Again, not real people. I refuse to believe it.

Offense will be better next year without them
It's been x and tvd show for three years. How's Miami done in those years. ....exactly

 

[Cribby]

you're one of the smartest posters on here. A lot of respect for you and I know you know what you're talking about but if you don't think tvd forces throws to x and that it has a negative impact on the team you are dead wrong. I don't know football as well as a lot of you, but it is clear as day he is forcing throws to X, not going through his progressions and not reading the field. You are correct a lot of times x stays open, but TVD absolutely forces throws to x when other receivers are wide open. Horton would have walked in end zone but instead he only looked down field to x. It happened probably 5-10 times a game last year. I'm not one of those fans that claims to know everything, I can admit when I'm wrong but no ******* way you can say TVD doesn't force it to X. It is a big problem, and I can almost guarantee whoever takes over for TVD next year will move the ball around better then TVD. Not saying they all turn into INT's, but he's missed so many points to stubbornness and incompetence. He can't read defenses and can't spread the ball around. TVD is not the only problem, but he is a big reason we lost the last two games. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.

There’s been 4-5 times he’s missed wide open guys and went to X. But even then X is normally open , not always but most times. Teams are keeping safeties deep and we haven’t had anyone else to help X in the middle of the field. Arroyo being fully back should help but the other guys aren’t exactly route technicians and thats what you need when there’s two safeties over the top. Or maybe being able to run the ball.

My biggest issue is X is on the field way too much and that’s one reason he gets so many targets. Between that and st’s makes his usage insane. It’s hard to be fresh when you‘re riding the same guys. I’ve been calling for more BS for almost two seasons , Horton and Ray Ray this year. I personally don’t like the rotation. I’d rather the wealth be spread that way.

Lastly I’ll say this , one area people don’t get is theres miscommunications or wrong routes being ran , but y’all don’t see that. Yiu just see an int, blame the qb. So yeah he thrives to X a tad bit too much but he stays open, catches everything and is trust worthy. Maybe If other guys actually caught the ball they‘d get more targets.

 

[STG]

Sometimes the stat line doesn't say it all. Numbers don't always tell the whole story. TVD 100% locks into x when other people are wide open. He does not go through his reads or look off defenders. If TVD was that good, we wouldn't have been 6-6 and dog **** the last three years. Blame coaching absolutely. Well, those coaches recruited TVD and aren't here anymore. TVD is mid, has been mid. X is an average receiver that is a Gordy go hard so coaches love him and the real talent the type that can score easily like Brashard and ray ray sit on the bench. Everyone is going to hate this and tell me I'm wrong but that's because the amount of people on this board that gobble x and tvd's nuts is shocking. They are both mid and overhyped just like miami is every year.

A mid QB who is top 15 in every statistical catgeory. You literally can't make this **** up.

I will be the first to say TVD has a lot of to work on, but calling him or X mid is purely comical. And again, your crying is misplaced. Blame the coaches who play these so called mid players. They have the final decision.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Offense will be better next year without them
It's been x and tvd show for three years. How's Miami done in those years. ....exactly

I don't know why I'm doing this to myself, but what in the everloving **** are you talking about????

3 years? So 2021 was "The X and TVD show??" You mean the year when Charleston Rambo set the single-season mark for catches and yards, and Mike Harley caught 55+ balls? That was the Xavier Restrepo show? Must have been a quick production, cause I missed the **** out of it entirely.

2022....you know how many games TVD and Restrepo played together? TWO!!!! And 2 others that TVD was knocked out of early in (FSU and Pitt).

Again man, I can't believe these are real people. It's so depressing to me that I have to be lumped in with people who couldn't buy a clue with a ******* black AMEX.

 

[sharkindaawater]

Lol, what? Hard to defend a QB who is top 15 in every statistical category? A WR who is top 15 in most?

And if you feel they are holding us back and we have so many better options, who chooses who gets to play? And who chooses how many snaps each guy gets?

You should be voicing your concerns about our WR coach, OC and HC than because they decide who plays and how much.

Top 15 in stats, cool. Look at Miami's record the last three years. I don't care what he ranks he doesn't know how to be a winner or win when it matters.

Valid question. I would start Geroge, Brashard, Horton, have ray ray. colbie, x rotate in every once in a while. Id bench tvd and let emory start getting reps and experience for next year. We know what we have in tvd and x and we haven't won dog ****. It's been time to move on. They'll have great careers in the cfl

I fully blame Mario. He's like an enabling parent.

 

[cway313]

@sharkindaawater who is your team?

 

[sharkindaawater]

I don't know why I'm doing this to myself, but what in the everloving **** are you talking about????

3 years? So 2021 was "The X and TVD show??" You mean the year when Charleston Rambo set the single-season mark for catches and yards, and Mike Harley caught 55+ balls? That was the Xavier Restrepo show? Must have been a quick production, cause I missed the **** out of it entirely.

2022....you know how many games TVD and Restrepo played together? TWO!!!! And 2 others that TVD was knocked out of early in (FSU and Pitt).

Again man, I can't believe these are real people. It's so depressing to me that I have to be lumped in with people who couldn't buy a clue with a ******* black AMEX.

Who's been the qb for all of them? TVD. He's not good and him and x hold back the offense. I know people are going to act like im crazy but they hold back the offense. I cant wait till next year when the offense is doing better

 

[STG]

Top 15 in stats, cool. Look at Miami's record the last three years. I don't care what he ranks he doesn't know how to be a winner or win when it matters.

Valid question. I would start Geroge, Brashard, Horton, have ray ray. colbie, x rotate in every once in a while. Id bench tvd and let emory start getting reps and experience for next year. We know what we have in tvd and x and we haven't won dog ****. It's been time to move on. They'll have great careers in the cfl

I fully blame Mario. He's like an enabling parent.

So our record falls squarely on TVD? Not two moron HCs in Manny and Mario? Does it matter at all that TVD has had 3 OCs the last 3 years? Can you point to me the games where TVD was solely at fault for us losing the game?

 

[PIPO]

On today’s episode of Miami fans hate their best players…

@KingB02 - it was 18 targets:

@canester95 or anyone else thinking this is hate: No!!

It’s an issue in which coaching is failing in game planning (why are we always running caveman football with two tight ends that never get a ball thrown to them) when we have a lot of weapons that can be used in slot play (Ray Ray, Washington, Harrell, Colbie Young, Brashard Smith, Johnson).

There is no motion, very few 4 WR sets, it’s just some bad offensive play calling and if the QB is missing so many other throws because he only locks on to one guy, it should be called out for not executing the offense.

18 of his 48 passing attempts went to X! That’s insane!! The other guys on this team are not terrible for them not to be getting. The ball.

@gogeta4, @Memnon and others have yet to be proven wrong in terms of whom should’ve been head coach (Lane). This is abysmal. 9-9 vs the ACC and 0-6 vs the ACC at home.

Adjustments need to be made by this coaching staff and the QB like yesterday.

If the same (keep forcing it type by the coaches and the QBs continues) **** is only going to get worse.

Until proven wrong by this team and coaching, it’s the same **** as the last 20 years, but with a much more expensive coaching staff.

 

[sharkindaawater]

A mid QB who is top 15 in every statistical catgeory. You literally can't make this **** up.

I will be the first to say TVD has a lot of to work on, but calling him or X mid is purely comical. And again, your crying is misplaced. Blame the coaches who play these so called mid players. They have the final decision.

ok hes top 15 in stats you say? is he even a top 15 draft prospect? I would say with how deep the qb class is no. Is miami a top 15 team? no. Has tvd ever one anything? no

I don't care what he ranks in stats, i want Miami to win. TVD is not a winner. Miami does not win with TVD we arent wining any big games or the acc

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

There’s been 4-5 times he’s missed wide open guys and went to X. But even then X is normally open , not always but most times. Teams are keeping safeties deep and we haven’t had anyone else to help X in the middle of the field. Arroyo being fully back should help but the other guys aren’t exactly route technicians and thats what you need when there’s two safeties over the top. Or maybe being able to run the ball.

My biggest issue is X is on the field way too much and that’s one reason he gets so many targets. Between that and st’s makes his usage insane. It’s hard to be fresh when you‘re riding the same guys. I’ve been calling for more BS for almost two seasons , Horton and Ray Ray this year. I personally don’t like the rotation. I’d rather the wealth be spread that way.

Lastly I’ll say this , one area people don’t get is theres miscommunications or wrong routes being ran , but y’all don’t see that. Yiu just see an int, blame the qb. So yeah he thrives to X a tad bit too much but he stays open, catches everything and is trust worthy. Maybe If other guys actually caught the ball they‘d get more targets.

This **** is really getting so silly.

TVD has thrown 6 picks this year in 6 games, but really it's 5, because the one at the end of the game last week was a Hail Mary situation. How many were when he was targeting Restrepo?

I know for sure 3 were not. The one that almost got returned for a TD against GT definitely was not (was a miscommunication between him and George), the one last week was definitely not, the one against Miami (OH) was I believe George running an over route that got undercut. Were the other 2 against GT both to Restrepo? The one in the first half in the endzone on 3rd and 13 might've been, I can't remember. So at most he's thrown 2 picks in what, almost 200 passes?

 

[cway313]

So our record falls squarely on TVD? Not two moron HCs in Manny and Mario? Does it matter at all that TVD has had 3 OCs the last 3 years? Can you point to me the games where TVD was solely at fault for us losing the game?

Solely at fault is a high bar to set fam. yall know how to word arguments.

 

[STG]

ok hes top 15 in stats you say? is he even a top 15 draft prospect? I would say with how deep the qb class is no. Is miami a top 15 team? no. Has tvd ever one anything? no

I don't care what he ranks in stats, i want Miami to win. TVD is not a winner. Miami does not win with TVD we arent wining any big games or the acc

Who cares what he projects to at the next level. What matters is what he does here. And for the most part he does plenty for us to win. The fact you are zoned in on blaming TVD and only TVD shows your lack of knowledge as to what has led to our overall losing the last 3 years.