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[Pentagon Cane]

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LOL, Oliver Luck is an accomplished guy, but really? Florida finishes second every year to Stanford for the Sears Trophy and Stanford plays 15 more sports. I understand Foley is a Gator and a jerk, but facts are facts.

You mean like the AD of Nebraska extended AG? What facts are you referring too?

Contract extension was reported on November 25, 2011. Here is the CBS Online article:

UM’s Al Golden Agrees To 4 Year Contract Extension
November 25, 2011 6:36 PM

CORAL GABLES (CBSMiami) – The University of Miami is so pleased with the job head football coach Al Golden is doing, they want to keep him around for a while.
The school and Golden agreed to terms on a four-year contract extension, the UM announced Friday.
That will make him the head football coach through February 1, 2020.
“I look forward to working side-by-side with Coach Golden for many years,” said Director of Athletics Shawn Eichorst. “Al has done a fantastic job of rebuilding and solidifying the foundation of our football program while fostering success both on and off of the field. He has been a first-class representative of our University and I am confident that with Al leading the way, our future is very bright.”Golden signed a five year deal in December 2010 after the school fired coach Randy Shannon.
“My family loves it in South Florida, we have embraced the community and we could not be more excited about the future of the Miami Hurricanes football team,” said Golden.
The financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

 

[Consigliere]

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LOL, Oliver Luck is an accomplished guy, but really? Florida finishes second every year to Stanford for the Sears Trophy and Stanford plays 15 more sports. I understand Foley is a Gator and a jerk, but facts are facts.

You mean like the AD of Nebraska extended AG? What facts are you referring too?

Contract extension was reported on November 25, 2011. Here is the CBS Online article:

UM’s Al Golden Agrees To 4 Year Contract Extension
November 25, 2011 6:36 PM

CORAL GABLES (CBSMiami) – The University of Miami is so pleased with the job head football coach Al Golden is doing, they want to keep him around for a while.
The school and Golden agreed to terms on a four-year contract extension, the UM announced Friday.
That will make him the head football coach through February 1, 2020.
“I look forward to working side-by-side with Coach Golden for many years,” said Director of Athletics Shawn Eichorst. “Al has done a fantastic job of rebuilding and solidifying the foundation of our football program while fostering success both on and off of the field. He has been a first-class representative of our University and I am confident that with Al leading the way, our future is very bright.”Golden signed a five year deal in December 2010 after the school fired coach Randy Shannon.
“My family loves it in South Florida, we have embraced the community and we could not be more excited about the future of the Miami Hurricanes football team,” said Golden.
The financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

I stand corrected. It was Shawn who extended Golden. My apologies, I will edit my post.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

There you go again. Ah, you're dead wrong. Golden's extension was executed under Shawn Eichorst. As for Jim Morris, they are not going to fire him. Miami's issue is not Jim Morris. It's the fact that tuition continues to rise and you're restrict to 11.7 scholarships. You know why Stanford and Rice win? Because they have $18 billion and $4 billion endowments respectively. Even TCU has a $1.2 billion endowment. Stanford and Rice definitely use their endowments for non-revenue and low revenue generating sports because they have cash to burn. And they're not firing Morris because he's earned the right to leave on his own terms. Jim will retire soon enough and Gino takes over.

University of Florida athletic department has money out of its wazoo. That helps a lot. That being said it doesn't mitigate the fact that Foley is all-in with Muschamp and even recently he said he'll look at his overall body of work and where he thinks football is heading and make a decision when the season is over. I know that's hard for you to accept.

First the TIMELINE of TRUTH

1. Shawn Eichorst became the AD of Nebraska on October 4, 2012.

2. Then in October, Blake James is promoted to Athletic Director.

3. November 24/25, 2012 Al Golden signs his extension.

So Shawn Eichorst still had control of our athletic department 2 months after he left? Interesting. Thanks Blake James and the Admin!

Second, Jim Morris is utter trash. It has nothing to do with the scholarships. For how many ***ing years now have we had the same issues? The scholarships are unchanged and tuition has risen. We have always been an expensive school, we have always been a private school. Tuition may have went up (as did CPI and Inflation) but so what? Are you blaming his chitty baseball on the price of tuition?

As for the real in 2007-08 Full Time Tuition was $32,422.00 (CPI adjustment is $37,192). In 2014-15 Full Time Tuition is $43,040.00. Are you telling me this $6,000.00 (yearly) is the reason our product has continually tanked.

Leaving on your own terms? Seriously. So just keep throwing money at him because he deserves to leave on his own terms? We haven't been to the WS since 2008.

So let's review, we're not improving in baseball due to the cost of tuition. Wow!

Finally and repeating

Foley has earned the trust, he can say whatever.

******** has done nothing to merit any trust.

The difference is one of the above has had success and won championships. The other is a **** making terrible decisions and has achieved nothing.

Yes, I am. Morris hasn't forgotten how to coach despite being long in the tooth. We're continuing to get commitments from a lot of local kids who are opting for pro ball. Read articles on how Stanford and Rice work around it. TCU is trying to go with the same model. All the private schools are *****ing about competitive challenges. If you don't think an $11 grant hike in actual dollars per year is meaningless to these kids then you're kidding yourself. Florida's in-state tuition is $6.3K for 30 credit hours. I don't give a ***** who coaches the baseball team. Getting these kids personal costs manageable is a major problem and issue.

 

[Consigliere]

Yes, I am. Morris hasn't forgotten how to coach despite being long in the tooth. We're continuing to get commitments from a lot of local kids who are opting for pro ball. Read articles on how Stanford and Rice work around it. TCU is trying to go with the same model. All the private schools are ****ing about competitive challenges. If you don't think an $11 grant hike in actual dollars per year is meaningless to these kids then you're kidding yourself. Florida's in-state tuition is $6.3K for 30 credit hours. I don't give a ***** who coaches the baseball team. Getting these kids personal costs manageable is a major problem and issue.

It's not $11K. It is about 6K in 2007 v. 2014 $$$ after adjusting.

I think the constant issues we face have little to do with cost of tuition (which has always been an issue) but the actual coach of the program.

How did Vanderbilt win the CWS this past season? Are they private? How did they do it?

As for Stanford and Rice, it is nice to see schools focus on athletics like they do. I wish we did the same.

Side note: If we had a similar plan, we would still need the players to be coached, hence the coach matters.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Yes, I am. Morris hasn't forgotten how to coach despite being long in the tooth. We're continuing to get commitments from a lot of local kids who are opting for pro ball. Read articles on how Stanford and Rice work around it. TCU is trying to go with the same model. All the private schools are ****ing about competitive challenges. If you don't think an $11 grant hike in actual dollars per year is meaningless to these kids then you're kidding yourself. Florida's in-state tuition is $6.3K for 30 credit hours. I don't give a ***** who coaches the baseball team. Getting these kids personal costs manageable is a major problem and issue.

It's not $11K. It is about 6K in 2007 v. 2014 $$$ after adjusting.

I think the constant issues we face have little to do with cost of tuition (which has always been an issue) but the actual coach of the program.

How did Vanderbilt win the CWS this past season? Are they private? How did they do it?

As for Stanford and Rice, it is nice to see schools focus on athletics like they do. I wish we did the same.

Side note: If we had a similar plan, we would still need the players to be coached, hence the coach matters.

I don't care what the CPI is...the real dollar tuition costs in 2007-2008 was $33.6K for 30 hours. The 2014-2015 tuition costs are $43.04K as published by the university. And whatever index constant you use the increase alone equals the in-state tuition cost for Florida under your metric.

Vanderbilt has a $3.6 billion endowment and they use it for athletics. Miami's endowment is a dwarf compared to these programs. I wish Miami would use its endowment at least for baseball and track.

 

[Consigliere]

Yes, I am. Morris hasn't forgotten how to coach despite being long in the tooth. We're continuing to get commitments from a lot of local kids who are opting for pro ball. Read articles on how Stanford and Rice work around it. TCU is trying to go with the same model. All the private schools are ****ing about competitive challenges. If you don't think an $11 grant hike in actual dollars per year is meaningless to these kids then you're kidding yourself. Florida's in-state tuition is $6.3K for 30 credit hours. I don't give a ***** who coaches the baseball team. Getting these kids personal costs manageable is a major problem and issue.

It's not $11K. It is about 6K in 2007 v. 2014 $$$ after adjusting.

I think the constant issues we face have little to do with cost of tuition (which has always been an issue) but the actual coach of the program.

How did Vanderbilt win the CWS this past season? Are they private? How did they do it?

As for Stanford and Rice, it is nice to see schools focus on athletics like they do. I wish we did the same.

Side note: If we had a similar plan, we would still need the players to be coached, hence the coach matters.

I don't care what the CPI is...the real dollar tuition costs in 2007-2008 was $33.6K for 30 hours. The 2014-2015 tuition costs are $43.04K as published by the university. And whatever index constant you use the increase alone equals the in-state tuition cost for Florida under your metric.

Vanderbilt has a $3.6 billion endowment and they use it for athletics. Miami's endowment is a dwarf compared to these programs.

It's not real dollars then. But whatever. The point is at Miami we have ALWAYS been private. We have ALWAYS been expensive. This is not new. This will never change. The scholarships (in terms of the amount) are the same as well. The difference is the QUALITY of the product has decreased overtime.

Kids could have always went to UF, they still came to Miami. It was expensive and private then, it is expensive and private now. The constant has been the coach and the product has been poor.

So Vandy is using money for athletics from their endowment? That is why they're winning now?

If Stanford wanted too they could outspend everyone (Bama or Auburn or Anyone) with their endowment. They don't. They just hire better coaches and get a better product. We could do the same. Morris is way over the hill and the product will continue at this level till he is replaced with someone better.

 

[AntwanJ306]

Miami stopped winning in baseball because Jim Morris had to stop cheating. The baseball program has been nailed twice for major infractions under his watch (1995 and 2003), and he was told to clean it up or move on. Turtle Thomas took the sword for the scholarship snafu in 1999 that Morris failed to monitor, then Lazar took the blame for the recruiting violations in 2003 that Morris, once again, failed to monitor. All of that is 100% undeniable fact, and the baseball gurus in the Miami area all know it.

Dude is a snake, his players don't like him, and he has done absolutely nothing since being forced to run a clean program.

One single Super Regional game victory in the last six seasons. At Miami. And the dude keeps getting extended.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

I like Foley, Luck, the AD for Louisivlle, and Ray Tanner at South Carolina. I think the best AD's are at SEC schools due to a sociopathic dedication to winning and not caring at all about academics. The huge budgets they have to work with is also an obviously enormous advantage.

 

[OrangetieFatface]

In all fairness, what could he say aside from "Hes fired" or "I support him"? He should support Folden until the day he fires him, which should be today. Anything else is unprofessional. Making anouncements and talking to the press about a coach's status is the kiss of death regardless of the actual words. Foldens toast, too late to fire NoD, hes already sunk with the ship. That's what i hear when he says something to the extent of "I let the coach make all the decisions, and then ask him 'how's the defense progressing'."

 

[jaxtheknife]

Hopefully behind closed doors the plan is - Blake will encourage fAiL to move on at season's end and provide him a solid reference. fAil will move to a non-Big 5 school, dorito will follow...

Butch returns and It's great to be...once again

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Yes, I am. Morris hasn't forgotten how to coach despite being long in the tooth. We're continuing to get commitments from a lot of local kids who are opting for pro ball. Read articles on how Stanford and Rice work around it. TCU is trying to go with the same model. All the private schools are ****ing about competitive challenges. If you don't think an $11 grant hike in actual dollars per year is meaningless to these kids then you're kidding yourself. Florida's in-state tuition is $6.3K for 30 credit hours. I don't give a ***** who coaches the baseball team. Getting these kids personal costs manageable is a major problem and issue.

It's not $11K. It is about 6K in 2007 v. 2014 $$$ after adjusting.

I think the constant issues we face have little to do with cost of tuition (which has always been an issue) but the actual coach of the program.

How did Vanderbilt win the CWS this past season? Are they private? How did they do it?

As for Stanford and Rice, it is nice to see schools focus on athletics like they do. I wish we did the same.

Side note: If we had a similar plan, we would still need the players to be coached, hence the coach matters.

I don't care what the CPI is...the real dollar tuition costs in 2007-2008 was $33.6K for 30 hours. The 2014-2015 tuition costs are $43.04K as published by the university. And whatever index constant you use the increase alone equals the in-state tuition cost for Florida under your metric.

Vanderbilt has a $3.6 billion endowment and they use it for athletics. Miami's endowment is a dwarf compared to these programs. I wish Miami would use its endowment at least for baseball and track.

Are you one of those "don't ask don't tell" types?

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Yes, I am. Morris hasn't forgotten how to coach despite being long in the tooth. We're continuing to get commitments from a lot of local kids who are opting for pro ball. Read articles on how Stanford and Rice work around it. TCU is trying to go with the same model. All the private schools are ****ing about competitive challenges. If you don't think an $11 grant hike in actual dollars per year is meaningless to these kids then you're kidding yourself. Florida's in-state tuition is $6.3K for 30 credit hours. I don't give a ***** who coaches the baseball team. Getting these kids personal costs manageable is a major problem and issue.

It's not $11K. It is about 6K in 2007 v. 2014 $$$ after adjusting.

I think the constant issues we face have little to do with cost of tuition (which has always been an issue) but the actual coach of the program.

How did Vanderbilt win the CWS this past season? Are they private? How did they do it?

As for Stanford and Rice, it is nice to see schools focus on athletics like they do. I wish we did the same.

Side note: If we had a similar plan, we would still need the players to be coached, hence the coach matters.

I don't care what the CPI is...the real dollar tuition costs in 2007-2008 was $33.6K for 30 hours. The 2014-2015 tuition costs are $43.04K as published by the university. And whatever index constant you use the increase alone equals the in-state tuition cost for Florida under your metric.

Vanderbilt has a $3.6 billion endowment and they use it for athletics. Miami's endowment is a dwarf compared to these programs. I wish Miami would use its endowment at least for baseball and track.

Are you one of those "don't ask don't tell" types?

Why, are you looking for a hook up? Can't help you there buddy.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Yes, I am. Morris hasn't forgotten how to coach despite being long in the tooth. We're continuing to get commitments from a lot of local kids who are opting for pro ball. Read articles on how Stanford and Rice work around it. TCU is trying to go with the same model. All the private schools are ****ing about competitive challenges. If you don't think an $11 grant hike in actual dollars per year is meaningless to these kids then you're kidding yourself. Florida's in-state tuition is $6.3K for 30 credit hours. I don't give a ***** who coaches the baseball team. Getting these kids personal costs manageable is a major problem and issue.

It's not $11K. It is about 6K in 2007 v. 2014 $$$ after adjusting.

I think the constant issues we face have little to do with cost of tuition (which has always been an issue) but the actual coach of the program.

How did Vanderbilt win the CWS this past season? Are they private? How did they do it?

As for Stanford and Rice, it is nice to see schools focus on athletics like they do. I wish we did the same.

Side note: If we had a similar plan, we would still need the players to be coached, hence the coach matters.

I don't care what the CPI is...the real dollar tuition costs in 2007-2008 was $33.6K for 30 hours. The 2014-2015 tuition costs are $43.04K as published by the university. And whatever index constant you use the increase alone equals the in-state tuition cost for Florida under your metric.

Vanderbilt has a $3.6 billion endowment and they use it for athletics. Miami's endowment is a dwarf compared to these programs. I wish Miami would use its endowment at least for baseball and track.

Are you one of those "don't ask don't tell" types?

Why, are you looking for a hook up? Can't help you there buddy.

I bet you could sailor. I bet you could.

 

[theibisrules]

lol

 

[canes23]

Honestly, what the **** do you expect an AD to say?


Behind closed doors is a whole new ballgame

I agree!!!