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Wisconsin officially sues Miami over Xavier Lucas

If Wisconsin were to win, doesn't this open the floodgates for a lot of schools, especially the smaller ones that constantly get poached, to file suit to try to make some money?
 
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I'll treat this like nevin until otherwise.. I remember the board being full of hubris when the rumors came out at first.. of course we would be the ones caught up in this .. this is on brand fr
 
Bender said:
If successful, it sets a precedent for the universities to set up contracts that bind players to the university and prevent others from sniping in and luring them away. As far as I understand, all Big Ten teams have signed players to revenue-share contracts that were to be inforced if the settlement was ruled upon.

Lucas was the only player basically movimg against it, which is why we're here now.
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But the suit is against Miami not Lucas. From what I read, and I didn’t read the entire thing and I know very little about law, but this is against Miami tampering with a player.

The unintended consequence could be contracts because he wasn’t legally tied to the school. But I genuinely believe this is a smear campaign towards the program.
 
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Reyrey said:
How can they prove “a coach met with Lucas at his home”before he was in the portal?
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Technically they are saying a family member’s home. I don’t know but I could’ve swore we recruited or there’s a member of his family on the team.
 
And how exactly will Wisconsin assess and prove damages? In the end, a civil suit is only as good as the money received. What will they argue?

If Lucas was still on our tram, we would have won 1.5 more games (speculation), which would have resulted in ….WHAT???

This is so stupid.
 
FuriousStyles said:
In NC if you smash a man’s wife… or she leaves him for you he can sue you. And he’ll probably win.

It’s a few other states with that law… the Dakotas and Vermont I think.
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I know in some places, spouses who cheat tend to get the short end of the stick in divorce court but that’s absolutely nuts.
 
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sorry for being lazy but just don't feel like reading all of that. Can someone explain to me the rewards Wisy are seeking? because if it's just money then.... lol this is a complete waste of energy.
 
I'm anxious to read the complaint and share some thoughts, but my very early rough thoughts:

-There is a tort called "tortious interference with a contract (or business relationship)." I expect that'll be the centerpiece of their complaint. Basically, in this instance, the collective will allege that they had a contract with Lucas and Miami interfered with that contract/business relationship and induced him to break the contract, and they were damaged as a result. They will have to show that Miami (or its collective?) did something to persuade Lucas to leave.
-One thing I'm curious about is how the schools are actually involved, as opposed to collectives or intermediaries that are not Miami employees. This sounds to me more like collective vs. collective but I don't know.
-In terms of damages, that'll be hard to define. I guess Wisconsin/collective will argue they paid Lucas money last year with expectation he'd stay for at least a couple more years, so they'll want that back. I'm not sure how you define any future damages though? I don't know how you attribute financial damages to speculation as to how Wisconsin would perform with him vs. without him.
-No "specific performance." What that means is, I highly doubt that any court can compel Lucas to return to UW or sit out. This just seems like money, and maybe if UW is successful, maybe you use this to go to NCAA to spark some change? I don't know.
 
AtlAtty said:
And how exactly will Wisconsin assess and prove damages? In the end, a civil suit is only as good as the money received. What will they argue?

If Lucas was still on our tram, we would have won 1.5 more games (speculation), which would have resulted in ….WHAT???

This is so stupid.
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Exactly, is it worth discovery, ****ing off kids in recruiting for xxxxxx in potential damages? Like, under sunny day scenarios for them, exactly what is a "win" damages here. In all likelihood, what exact does an award look like? Mostly attorney fees?

And they haven't filed yet, but they led on to believe they are going to sue him also. Like, what do you think you win. 100k, 1M, 10M? In all probability, you are not getting 8 figures, so what is the point here.

You lose much more than you win, some folks cut their noses off to spite their faces.
 
Page305 said:
sorry for being lazy but just don't feel like reading all of that. Can someone explain to me the rewards Wisy are seeking? because if it's just money then.... lol this is a complete waste of energy.
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Just answered that a second ago. Yeah, I think so.

If you want to think about this in terms we know, this almost sounds like a luxury tax like the NBA. Like a player and want to have a paid roster, fine, but you have to pay a little more for it. We may have to pay a little more than we bargained for.
 
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hcanes100 said:
Exactly, is it worth discovery, ****ing off kids in recruiting for xxxxxx in potential damages? Like, under sunny day scenarios for them, exactly what is a "win" damages here. In all likelihood, what exact does an award look like? Mostly attorney fees?

And they haven't filed yet, but they led on to believe they are going to sue him also. Like, what do you think you win. 100k, 1M, 10M? In all probability, you are not getting 8 figures, so what is the point here.

You lose much more than you win, some folks cut their noses off to spite their faces.
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I cannot envision any attorney fee claim here.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I have no problems with universities that set up binding revenue-share contracts ONCE THAT CONCEPT ACTUALLY EXISTS AND IS OPERATIVE. I have a big problem with a university approaching an 18 year old college freshman (with no legal representation at the time) and pressuring him into signing a contingent future contract THAT MAY NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPEN, and then acting as if there is no power/agency disparity, and that the 18 year old freshman knew exactly what he was doing.

Miami needs to move expeditiously to get this case tossed, as well it should be.
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A part of me wonders is Wisky is counting on this getting tossed. Can't imagine they want discovery
 
Yeahhh.. if I was the big 10/SEC, I’d be very wary of Wisconsin winning this suit. That opens up the floodgate and we know those schools do the same thing.
 
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