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Wisconsin officially sues Miami over Xavier Lucas

TheOriginalCane said:
Miami is in Florida. Removal to federal court should be easy, diversity of jurisdiction.
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i don't do litigation but some of my client end up there and i can say that a solid majority of circuit court judges SUCK and became judges because they sucked as lawyers. depending on what judge was assigned, it could be better to remove.
 
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rsa coral gables said:
i haven't seen the complaint but i think there is diversity and an amount in controversy over whatever the threshold is today ($75k??)
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Yes, and a case like this is not going to ask for specific performance (no court, not even a friendly state court, is going to force Xavier Lucas to play for Wisconsin).

So if Miami "offered a more lucrative contract" and there are damages resulting from the "tampering" with the first contract...
 
DTP said:
This is like an ex boyfriend trying to sue you for stealing his girl.
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In NC if you smash a man’s wife… or she leaves him for you he can sue you. And he’ll probably win.

It’s a few other states with that law… the Dakotas and Vermont I think.
 
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What I don’t understand is, the court of public opinion isn’t going to change either way here.

If you think Miami tampered, because it’s slimy, dirty, same ‘ole Miami. Miami being vindicated changes nothing.

If you think Miami didn’t or it’s witch-hunt, even Miami being proved guilty, your thought will be well, everyone does.

Wisconsin really stands to gain nothing here. The whole thing is very silly and pointless.
 
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If this case moves forward............discovery will be a sh** show and Wiscky may look like rancid cheese.
Our lawyers will find them tampering also and it will make them look like idiots........
This is called the glass house theory.........and they are getting ready to get smashed.
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aelmiami said:
Wisconsin really stands to gain nothing here. The whole thing is very silly and pointless.
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If successful, it sets a precedent for the universities to set up contracts that bind players to the university and prevent others from sniping in and luring them away. As far as I understand, all Big Ten teams have signed players to revenue-share contracts that were to be inforced if the settlement was ruled upon.

Lucas was the only player basically movimg against it, which is why we're here now.
 
I'll text Kobie Gary to get him and his dad to fire up the Wings of Justice and head north to squash this issue.
 
rsa coral gables said:
i don't do litigation but some of my client end up there and i can say that a solid majority of circuit court judges SUCK and became judges because they sucked as lawyers. depending on what judge was assigned, it could be better to remove.
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Likely. If there are high-brow legal arguments, much better off in federal court than state court.

Also, for everyone else out there that tends to poo-poo or downplay this, I wouldn't. Crazy things happen in lawsuits. I haven't read it so I have no opinions at the moment but understand that litigation can be costly and have far ranging impacts. Wild things can happen.
 
Bender said:
If successful, it sets a precedent for the universities to set up contracts that bind players to the university and prevent others from sniping in and luring them away. As far as I understand, all Big Ten teams have signed players to revenue-share contracts that were to be inforced if the settlement was ruled upon.

Lucas was the only player basically movimg against it, which is why we're here now.
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I have no problems with universities that set up binding revenue-share contracts ONCE THAT CONCEPT ACTUALLY EXISTS AND IS OPERATIVE. I have a big problem with a university approaching an 18 year old college freshman (with no legal representation at the time) and pressuring him into signing a contingent future contract THAT MAY NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPEN, and then acting as if there is no power/agency disparity, and that the 18 year old freshman knew exactly what he was doing.

Miami needs to move expeditiously to get this case tossed, as well it should be.
 
JG13 said:
I'll text Kobie Gary to get him and his dad to fire up the Wings of Justice and head north to squash this issue.
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When I was on the UM Moot Court Board, we would "save" Kobie's dad to be a judge in the finals or semi-finals of our various law school competitions. Heavy hitter.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
I have no problems with universities that set up binding revenue-share contracts ONCE THAT CONCEPT ACTUALLY EXISTS AND IS OPERATIVE. I have a big problem with a university approaching an 18 year old college freshman (with no legal representation at the time) and pressuring him into signing a contingent future contract THAT MAY NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPEN, and then acting as if there is no power/agency disparity, and that the 18 year old freshman knew exactly what he was doing.

Miami needs to move expeditiously to get this case tossed, as well it should be.
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Exactly what the issue is. A lot of us would be singing a different tune if the House settlement had already gone through and there were clear and enforceable guidelines on having student-athletes enter into contracts with universities. But what Wisconsin and the Big Ten were trying to do was to force players into contracts and be bound to agreements that didn't even exist. It's such a blatant attempt by Wisconsin and the Big Ten to go back to the "good ol' days" of exploitation of the student-athletes and it's near fatal hubris that both of them are going through with this.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
You are incorrect in your analysis because you don't understand what is going to happen.
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If you are talking about removal to federal court, I think I'm right- you cannot remove a case to federal court where the State (or state entity) is the Plaintiff because of the Eleventh Amendment. is absolute on this issue.
 
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