Winston off the hook

[dforgie]

Read the evidence, kid has been innocent of this for a while. Throw your FSU hatred aside and just read the evidence. The chick was lying through her teeth. Her friend screwed it up for her, and she had to admit to her dad that she was a mudshark and she couldn't do it, so she said she was raped.

Nothing to do with F$U "hatred" everything to do with police work which gives a black eye to law enforcement as a whole and a "Institution of Higher Learning" being complicit in the faux investigation which was done for their $$$ benefit, even though it concerned an F$U student. The critical pieces of evidence which could lead to a probable cause judgement by REAL police officers was allowed by F$U's goons to be destroyed or rendered unrecoverable.

Use your brain and follow the money...

Don't let hatred cloud your judgement. This is a person looking for a payday after daddy found out. If friend never called parents, this would have never even been reported.

 

[TAMPA_CANE]

Read the evidence, kid has been innocent of this for a while. Throw your FSU hatred aside and just read the evidence. The chick was lying through her teeth. Her friend screwed it up for her, and she had to admit to her dad that she was a mudshark and she couldn't do it, so she said she was raped.

Nothing to do with F$U "hatred" everything to do with police work which gives a black eye to law enforcement as a whole and a "Institution of Higher Learning" being complicit in the faux investigation which was done for their $$$ benefit, even though it concerned an F$U student. The critical pieces of evidence which could lead to a probable cause judgement by REAL police officers was allowed by F$U's goons to be destroyed or rendered unrecoverable.

Use your brain and follow the money...

Don't let hatred cloud your judgement. This is a person looking for a payday after daddy found out. If friend never called parents, this would have never even been reported.

This

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Did Bill Cosby rape all them broads?

 

[bobbydigius]

Read the evidence, kid has been innocent of this for a while. Throw your FSU hatred aside and just read the evidence. The chick was lying through her teeth. Her friend screwed it up for her, and she had to admit to her dad that she was a mudshark and she couldn't do it, so she said she was raped.

Nothing to do with F$U "hatred" everything to do with police work which gives a black eye to law enforcement as a whole and a "Institution of Higher Learning" being complicit in the faux investigation which was done for their $$$ benefit, even though it concerned an F$U student. The critical pieces of evidence which could lead to a probable cause judgement by REAL police officers was allowed by F$U's goons to be destroyed or rendered unrecoverable.

Use your brain and follow the money...

Don't let hatred cloud your judgement. This is a person looking for a payday after daddy found out. If friend never called parents, this would have never even been reported.

People said that the whole video of it being deleted was sketchy, true but that in itself does not mean a **** thing. On the other hand what we do know is that the girl said she was drugged and hit over the head, that was found to be untrue. After that happens then the whole angle that she was intimidated was used. She also said the perpetrator was a six foot black man, Jameis is 6'4. Not only that she said it was a random guy, but that was found to be false. It was uncovered that she had in fact knew Jameis and was a 'side piece' of his. All this time her story kept changing.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

I believe if he kept the video he could been charged with voyerism. Has nothing to do with hiding a rape. It's illegal to film her without her consent.

Anyway it has been proven that she is lying. For anyone to continue to bash on the kid because he attends fsu sho be ashame of themselves. 3 separate legal entities has come to the same conclusion. What else needs to be said? Constant contradictions and witness accounts has proven otherwise.

 

[CaneFan79]

I believe if he kept the video he could been charged with voyerism. Has nothing to do with hiding a rape. It's illegal to film her without her consent.

"Anyway it has been proven that she is lying." For anyone to continue to bash on the kid because he attends fsu sho be ashame of themselves. 3 separate legal entities has come to the same conclusion. What else needs to be said? Constant contradictions and witness accounts has proven otherwise.

Voyeurism charge because of the cell phone? How about we consult the Florida statutues again...

810.14 Voyeurism prohibited; penalties.—

(1) A person commits the offense of voyeurism when he or she, with lewd, lascivious, or indecent intent:
(a) Secretly observes another person when the other person is located in a dwelling, structure, or conveyance and such location provides a reasonable expectation of privacy.
(b) Secretly observes another person’s intimate areas in which the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, when the other person is located in a public or private dwelling, structure, or conveyance. As used in this paragraph, the term “intimate area” means any portion of a person’s body or undergarments that is covered by clothing and intended to be protected from public view.

Casher admitted to the police he OBSERVED them having *** prior to the taping, so his statement was enough on its own merits to to have probable cause to charge him with voyeurism, since observing, not video recording is the key element of the offense. TPD didn't charge him (no surprise there) and your argument as to why he destroyed the video is, to put it mildly, in shambles.

"Anyway it has been proven that she is lying."

It has not been "proven" she is lying. SHE WAS NEVER CHARGED WITH AN OFFENSE NUMBNUTS! The only thing indisputable is that the Tallahicky PD is, like F$U PD, is a paid goon force who will not carry out their law enforcement duties if it interferes with their vested (READ:$$$$$) interest.

 

[Vanquish9]

Did Bill Cosby rape all them broads?

tough to claim innocence with 19 victims and counting...

 

[Eyhr]

I believe if he kept the video he could been charged with voyerism. Has nothing to do with hiding a rape. It's illegal to film her without her consent.

"Anyway it has been proven that she is lying." For anyone to continue to bash on the kid because he attends fsu sho be ashame of themselves. 3 separate legal entities has come to the same conclusion. What else needs to be said? Constant contradictions and witness accounts has proven otherwise.

Voyeurism charge because of the cell phone? How about we consult the Florida statutues again...

810.14 Voyeurism prohibited; penalties.—

(1) A person commits the offense of voyeurism when he or she, with lewd, lascivious, or indecent intent:
(a) Secretly observes another person when the other person is located in a dwelling, structure, or conveyance and such location provides a reasonable expectation of privacy.
(b) Secretly observes another person’s intimate areas in which the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, when the other person is located in a public or private dwelling, structure, or conveyance. As used in this paragraph, the term “intimate area” means any portion of a person’s body or undergarments that is covered by clothing and intended to be protected from public view.

Casher admitted to the police he OBSERVED them having *** prior to the taping, so his statement was enough on its own merits to to have probable cause to charge him with voyeurism, since observing, not video recording is the key element of the offense. TPD didn't charge him (no surprise there) and your argument as to why he destroyed the video is, to put it mildly, in shambles.

"Anyway it has been proven that she is lying."

It has not been "proven" she is lying. SHE WAS NEVER CHARGED WITH AN OFFENSE NUMBNUTS! The only thing indisputable is that the Tallahicky PD is, like F$U PD, is a paid goon force who will not carry out their law enforcement duties if it interferes with their vested (READ:$$$$$) interest.

You are either a young, bored pothead with too much time on his hands or are showing early signs of severe mental illness. I advise you seek help regardless.

 

[FullyERicht]

I believe if he kept the video he could been charged with voyerism. Has nothing to do with hiding a rape. It's illegal to film her without her consent.

Anyway it has been proven that she is lying. For anyone to continue to bash on the kid because he attends fsu sho be ashame of themselves. 3 separate legal entities has come to the same conclusion. What else needs to be said? Constant contradictions and witness accounts has proven otherwise.

You would defend someone who killed your own mom if he was young and black. It's truly pathetic.

This isn't about the rape. It's about a blatant coverup of a rape accusation.

But don't let me stop you on your racial agenda.

Btw do you have made up excuses for the crab legs, BB gun, etc??

Ironic how I never saw anything from you during the Duke lacrosse incident that WAS investigated. Wonder why.......

 

[Crimpy]

The reports? You mean the ones prepared by the same law enforcement agency who did a negligent job at best of investigating this thing? With a lead detective who did private contracting work for FSU boosters on the side? And who also allowed two huge pieces of evidence that could've answered every key question in this case (the Potbelly's surveillance vids and the cell phone vid of the actual encounter) to be destroyed? Lol. There are like 20 cameras recording in Potbelly's every night. But this flatfoot would rather interview a bunch of drunk bar patrons weeks later to find out what happened.

Not guilty due to lack of evidence. Of course, there's no evidence because of FSU and the cops. Gotta love it.

Agreed, it was slow rolled with a purpose.

Here is Major Harding's Bio...It was in the bag:

http://www.ausley.com/attorney-profile/major-b-harding

I skimmed through it but didn't notice anything that would suggest a conflict. Did I miss it?

Felonies Smothered University trolls sure can't read:

"In 1995-96 he was president of the Rotary Club of Tallahassee and in 2005 was the recipient of the Fredrick Clifton Moor Award for distinguished service to Rotary and the community. He is Past-President of the Tallahassee American Inns of Court."

Do you know what a Rotary Club is composed of?

Do you know from what source a significant amount of profit is generated from in Tallahicky?

You realize that rocking the boat and hurting Felonies Smothered University is bad for business in Trailerhasee?

Gosh, I worry about our country's naive population...Nah, not naive, willfully ignorant of how the REAL world works.

Chill, dude. I'm on your side. Or did you not read my earlier post within the same quote you responded to (look above). Plus, I said I "skimmed" through it. Hence my thought that I could have missed it. And no, I don't know much about the Rotary Club of Tallahassee, as I am not a "Felonies Smothered University troll".

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Did Bill Cosby rape all them broads?

tough to claim innocence with 19 victims and counting...

There was always something creepy about that dude.

 

[INCaneFan]

I have a niece who lives in Tampa and is going to college next year. She actually mentioned about Florida State so I sent her stuff about their academic reputation and all the crime that goes on their with the full support of the police department. She never mentioned it again. I also told her parents to do their freakin' research before sending their daughter to some godforsaken crime pit.

Something tells me you're serious with this, but I'd bet you aren't. News flash, colleges generally aren't the safest of places, crime increases with the size of the college, but anyone who thinks trouble can't find their loved one at college is burying their head in the sand.

What does your niece want to study? Is she considering Miami and if so did you send her information on our rape incident? As for telling her parents anything, my lord, you aren't really serious with that are you? In your estimation, what's a safe place for her to go?

 

[Crimpy]

Jesus...

Idiot boy. The chick had a rape kit administered at the hospital. Blood and toxicology showed no evidence of drugs and her bal was way below the limit where one can be considered "blackout" drunk.

The accuser's own friends impeach her testimony. She was not drunk when she left the club and she was not forced into the taxi.

The chick got embarrassed and decided to ruin this guy and it is a shame that so many people form opinions without reading the facts.

She never claimed to be drunk. She said she shared a couple of drinks between a bunch of people. What she claimed was memory lapses, which is actually very common amongst sexual assault victims, as they have been traumatized. It was the cops who suggested being drunk or drugged as plausible explanations for the memory lapses. So they test her blood to either confirm or exclude THEIR theories and she gets labeled as the liar when the toxicology reports come back negative. Lol.

Those vids would have cleared everything up. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. Do you remember the next morning every move your buddies made in that crowed club you visited? Including what they drank and how much? Who they talked to and for how long?

 

[Crimpy]

People said that the whole video of it being deleted was sketchy, true but that in itself does not mean a **** thing. On the other hand what we do know is that the girl said she was drugged and hit over the head, that was found to be untrue. After that happens then the whole angle that she was intimidated was used. She also said the perpetrator was a six foot black man, Jameis is 6'4. Not only that she said it was a random guy, but that was found to be false. It was uncovered that she had in fact knew Jameis and was a 'side piece' of his. All this time her story kept changing.

She did NOT say she was drugged. She said she had memory lapses. The police suggested that may be due to being drunk or drugged, and so they tested her blood. She said 6'0 black man and he was 6'4. Are u serious? Should she pull her tape measure out on the guy? That is not a huge discrepancy. Maybe she was wearing high heels and he seemed shorter to her. And she did NOT know Jameis from before and did not have a relationship with him. Even his attorneys have admitted this was false. Just another Warchant fabrication to trash the victim and destroy her credibility. It's textbook Rape Defense 101.

 

[CaneFan79]

I believe if he kept the video he could been charged with voyerism. Has nothing to do with hiding a rape. It's illegal to film her without her consent.

"Anyway it has been proven that she is lying." For anyone to continue to bash on the kid because he attends fsu sho be ashame of themselves. 3 separate legal entities has come to the same conclusion. What else needs to be said? Constant contradictions and witness accounts has proven otherwise.

Voyeurism charge because of the cell phone? How about we consult the Florida statutues again...

810.14 Voyeurism prohibited; penalties.—

(1) A person commits the offense of voyeurism when he or she, with lewd, lascivious, or indecent intent:
(a) Secretly observes another person when the other person is located in a dwelling, structure, or conveyance and such location provides a reasonable expectation of privacy.
(b) Secretly observes another person’s intimate areas in which the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, when the other person is located in a public or private dwelling, structure, or conveyance. As used in this paragraph, the term “intimate area” means any portion of a person’s body or undergarments that is covered by clothing and intended to be protected from public view.

Casher admitted to the police he OBSERVED them having *** prior to the taping, so his statement was enough on its own merits to to have probable cause to charge him with voyeurism, since observing, not video recording is the key element of the offense. TPD didn't charge him (no surprise there) and your argument as to why he destroyed the video is, to put it mildly, in shambles.

"Anyway it has been proven that she is lying."

It has not been "proven" she is lying. SHE WAS NEVER CHARGED WITH AN OFFENSE NUMBNUTS! The only thing indisputable is that the Tallahicky PD is, like F$U PD, is a paid goon force who will not carry out their law enforcement duties if it interferes with their vested (READ:$$$$$) interest.

You are either a young, bored pothead with too much time on his hands or are showing early signs of severe mental illness. I advise you seek help regardless.

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, means responding to arguments by attacking a person's character, rather than to the content of their arguments.

I realize Florida Stupid University didn't equip you to realize information such as this...It usually goes only to 8th grade equivalency

 

[CaneFan79]

The reports? You mean the ones prepared by the same law enforcement agency who did a negligent job at best of investigating this thing? With a lead detective who did private contracting work for FSU boosters on the side? And who also allowed two huge pieces of evidence that could've answered every key question in this case (the Potbelly's surveillance vids and the cell phone vid of the actual encounter) to be destroyed? Lol. There are like 20 cameras recording in Potbelly's every night. But this flatfoot would rather interview a bunch of drunk bar patrons weeks later to find out what happened.

Not guilty due to lack of evidence. Of course, there's no evidence because of FSU and the cops. Gotta love it.

Agreed, it was slow rolled with a purpose.

Here is Major Harding's Bio...It was in the bag:

http://www.ausley.com/attorney-profile/major-b-harding

I skimmed through it but didn't notice anything that would suggest a conflict. Did I miss it?

Felonies Smothered University trolls sure can't read:

"In 1995-96 he was president of the Rotary Club of Tallahassee and in 2005 was the recipient of the Fredrick Clifton Moor Award for distinguished service to Rotary and the community. He is Past-President of the Tallahassee American Inns of Court."

Do you know what a Rotary Club is composed of?

Do you know from what source a significant amount of profit is generated from in Tallahicky?

You realize that rocking the boat and hurting Felonies Smothered University is bad for business in Trailerhasee?

Gosh, I worry about our country's naive population...Nah, not naive, willfully ignorant of how the REAL world works.

Chill, dude. I'm on your side. Or did you not read my earlier post within the same quote you responded to (look above). Plus, I said I "skimmed" through it. Hence my thought that I could have missed it. And no, I don't know much about the Rotary Club of Tallahassee, as I am not a "Felonies Smothered University troll".

Sometime fratricide occurs, my bad. A Rotary Club is mostly comprised of local business leaders (for example, my dad was a bank manager and was a member) who do civic good works but also promote business interests in a different venue than say, the C of C. Bottom line: Harding would not want to hurt the cash flow of his buddies by hurting F$U's cash flow.

 

[Eyhr]

Citing a phrase that anyone learns that takes high school latin or debate is not helping your cause here. I'm not attacking you personally, I am attacking your paranoid, pseudo-enlightened opinion about how the world works. Everything is not a grand conspiracy of the rich and powerful. As I said, your opinions are either that of a young, psychotropic addled mind with a dangerous amount of free time or an insane person.

"I realize Florida Stupid University didn't equip you to realize information such as this...It usually goes only to 8th grade equivalency," now this, is an ad hominem. Get some perspective, chill out and drop the homerism.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Citing a phrase that anyone learns that takes high school latin or debate is not helping your cause here. I'm not attacking you personally, I am attacking your paranoid, pseudo-enlightened opinion about how the world works. Everything is not a grand conspiracy of the rich and powerful. As I said, your opinions are either that of a young, psychotropic addled mind with a dangerous amount of free time or an insane person.

"I realize Florida Stupid University didn't equip you to realize information such as this...It usually goes only to 8th grade equivalency," now this, is an ad hominem. Get some perspective, chill out and drop the homerism.

Prove it.

 

[Eyhr]

Citing a phrase that anyone learns that takes high school latin or debate is not helping your cause here. I'm not attacking you personally, I am attacking your paranoid, pseudo-enlightened opinion about how the world works. Everything is not a grand conspiracy of the rich and powerful. As I said, your opinions are either that of a young, psychotropic addled mind with a dangerous amount of free time or an insane person.

"I realize Florida Stupid University didn't equip you to realize information such as this...It usually goes only to 8th grade equivalency," now this, is an ad hominem. Get some perspective, chill out and drop the homerism.

Prove it.

no u

 

[the storm]

It's easy to have FSU bias when they are playing every ******* when others have rules. One of her lawyers now says "the fix was in" meaning it was all about Crab legs playing against Oregon. Did anyone really think the judge's so-called 'ruling' would be any different? Refusing to testify & innocent don't go together but under the law.....well you know. The whole proceeding was a sham.