Winslow Jr. Takes a Plea Deal

[ddann]

Where to place the blame depends on whether you're interested in actually solving the underlying issue, or mere symptoms. I'm not suggesting that K2 shouldn't be punished for his actions: he should be, but at the same time it's also not that simple or cut & dry

So are you backing off your claim that the blame belongs on the shoulders of the game of football and its fans?

 

[Ethnicsands]

So many judgemental pieces of **** in this dyck sucking fanbase. The same individuals who once upon a time wanted to literally suck the c*m out of K2's dyck, are the same individuals who are currently saying he should die in prison, given the death penalty, & assassinating his character/family, etc. If it is true that he does in fact have CTE, can we really blame the individual for committing these deplorable acts, or should we place more blame on the actual game & society that created the conditions for him to sustain irreversible neurological degeneration?? It's no longer a question about whether or not there are long term residual effects of participating in football or other collision sports-the answer is pretty much irrefutable at this pt.[b/ The more important question to ask is why does this society have such an insatiable appetite for gratuitous violence & gladiatorial bloodsports? [/b]

^^

/posted on football message board

 

[LatinCane]

Aaaah yeah, about that....

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-pedophiles-prison-****

Three people that do not do well in prison. Chomos, cops and lawyers. Chomos are at the bottom. California also has a higher mortality rate of prisoners than most states with chomos having the highest percentage among them.

You watch too many prison shows. Much softer pedos than him have made it out. He will either check in or maybe pay for protection at first, but he will not be killed in prison.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Sorry to disagree but as a former prosecutor on Atlanta of murder and *** crimes, when you have an opportunity for a plea deal that you believe is appropriate for the crime you take it. Of course this decision takes into account the quality of the evidence and relevant law. And remember that with a plea there is no appeal, no mistrial.
Prosecutors cannot take every meaningful case to trial as there are not enough weeks in the year or enough judges. So a good deal is just that; a good deal. Of course we can double the number of prosecutors and judges and dramatically raise our taxes in the process.
Hard to understand this type of pragmatic analysis if you haven’t had to make the decisions.

I believe everything you say and I actually would be in favor of judicial system reform that involved dramatic increases in funding. It would also involve less funding going toward other things like the militarization of some police forces and the cost of incarceration of non-violent offenders/reexamining our drug laws etc etc but that's an entirely different discussion.

My issue specifically here is the potential range of penalty that Winslow was facing. The right jury or judge could've sentenced him to life next year if he didn't take this plea. I just don't think the range should've been so large to go from about a decade to you're dying in jail.

And would you deny (that especially with those with political aspirations) that conviction rates alone are a driving force in a lot of state/district attorney offices? It's certainly the first thing mentioned by these individuals when they do run for something or are given a job by a governor etc.

 

[Tad Footeball]

How often, as a percent, do you believe the party taking the plea deal is innocent? There’s no way to know the number obviously but I’m curious as to how prevalent you think that is.

I'd probably say 10-20%. And not like they got the completely wrong guy but more along the lines of that person is being overcharged in an effort to force a plea or that person was part of a group or gang that has actually committed crimes but they're taking the hit individually for the sins of many people.

Trust me in that I'm not coming at this from a perspective where I'm advocating that too many innocent people are getting locked up. My issue with the plea deals is also from a victim's perspective too. I think they often don't get all the "justice" they should when we rush to avoid the risk of a trial. And I know many of them sign off on the deals to avoid addl trauma or to get the situation behind them. But let's even say that's the case with Winslow and he's guilty of everything. Should that supercede the potential danger to society he could very well be in a little over a decade?

 

[mdpcane]

there were no plea deals in THIS court ... lol

 

[For_The_U]

So many judgemental pieces of **** in this dyck sucking fanbase. The same individuals who once upon a time wanted to literally suck the c*m out of K2's dyck, are the same individuals who are currently saying he should die in prison, given the death penalty, & assassinating his character/family, etc. If it is true that he does in fact have CTE, can we really blame the individual for committing these deplorable acts, or should we place more blame on the actual game & society that created the conditions for him to sustain irreversible neurological degeneration?? It's no longer a question about whether or not there are long term residual effects of participating in football or other collision sports-the answer is pretty much irrefutable at this pt. The more important question to ask is why does this society have such an insatiable appetite for gratuitous violence & gladiatorial bloodsports?

There are likely 10s of thousands of people with CTE.... the vast majority don't break into mobile homes and rape elderly women.

 

[SonsofSoul]

Prison will not be fun for this MF. He will be wishing he was dead.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

Aaaah yeah, about that....

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-pedophiles-prison-****

Three people that do not do well in prison. Chomos, cops and lawyers. Chomos are at the bottom. California also has a higher mortality rate of prisoners than most states with chomos having the highest percentage among them.

This is your evidence? That 30% of homicides in prison are done to pedophiles? Hate to break the news to you, but that is still a very tiny portion of the pedophiles that get killed. The vast majority, just from your stat alone, end up never getting murdered.

Like I said, if you get all your prison info from watching Wes Watson on youtube or reading articles in prison. You may think all chomos get killed, but that is far from the truth.