Winning The Coastal In 2017

Having to play FSU every year makes winning the Coastal harder for us. It's a big reason why we've yet to win, and will continue to be.

/WTACCOGTFO

But some teams play against L'ville, Clemson, and/or FSU (any combination). No excuses, it is not difficult. Every team's schedule is difficult.
 
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We should be the favorites this year but I'm not going to downplay what we lost to the NFL. Losing Kaaya despite what some of you think will hurt. Finding a solid QB isn't easy. It would be a different story if we had a dominant running game to lean on but we don't. The OL is a weakness until proven otherwise. Njoku is a huge loss and no Herndon isn't the same player. Herndon is a solid player and the better blocker though. Losing Coley isn't a huge loss but I did like his leadership. I think we'll be just fine at WR but Richards will now be prime target for defenses. This is where the other receivers(Thomas, Harley, Cager, Berrios, etc.) and whoever the QB is will have to step up. Our secondary will be inexperienced losing 4 seniors isn't easy. However adding two players that have at least played some form of college football(Delaney, Dean) will lessen that to an extent. I do think it'll take some time for the secondary to adjust to each other though. However, I think they have the ability to be even better. I think the depth will be much better specifically at CB. I'm a huge fan of Delaney and think he locks down the #1 CB spot. It'll be a battle for the #2 job with Dean and Young. Bandy and Jackson will be right there as well. I think Young and Bandy could compete for big minutes at nickel. As for safety, Carter was a man child but he was also a huge liability in coverage. Johnson is probably an upgrade in coverage and I think he can still play in the box. The other spot will be a battle between Amari Carter and Redwine. I think Redwine ends up winning out but Carter will still play a lot. I think the depth there is slightly better but losing Jenkins and Carter won't be easy. As for LB, we have three studs. They have experience now so the freshman excuse is gone. Sure they can improve and they should but what I like more is that the depth behind them has improved a great deal. Bringing in 3 freshman was huge although I think Steed is a prime candidate to redshirt. Getting back Gordy and Owens getting completely healthy and in shape should help a great deal. Wilder should play a good amount on SPT. DL doesn't even have to be mentioned as it will be amazing. The defense is the least of the worries. It should be one of the best in the country. The offense is what needs to improve greatly. I'm hoping the OL improves tremendously so we can rely on a heavy running game so all the new QB has to do is be a game manger. Don't turn the ball over and get the ball into the hands of your athletes and let them work. I think the OL improving is just as important as finding the QB because if it sucks again, the offense will stall out a lot again.

UNC lost A LOT. If we don't beat them by 2 scores, something's wrong. Plus didn't they lose their DC? They have a very good coach so they'll be competitive but our talent specifically on defense should prevail.

VT will be tough with their defense and have a good coach to make the offense somewhat decent. They have to find a QB as well. The positive is, it's a home game and we don't have to play on short rest on a dumb Thursday game.

I think it's Coastal or bust. If we can't win the coastal this year, it means the defense didn't step forward and the OL didn't improve. That would be very concerning.

agree with most of what you said except the Njoku and Herndon part. I don't know if many noticed but in big moments or momentum swinging moments Njoku dropped a lot of passes for sure fire first downs or TDs I know he's a great athlete and matchup nightmare however he is not a complete football player or has the "it" factor he reminds me an awful lot of Jimmy Graham evidence of this is that he has went missing in October and had great Novembers the last two seasons its no coincidence that we were playing our toughest part of the schedule tin October. I always preferred Herndon better I think he has the "It" factor or "dog" in him and is a better "Football Player" I think it'll show a lot this season.
 
How will unc be better after losing a few of their dbs, dl nazir jones , top 3 receivers in Mack Hollins, bug Howard and, Switzerland, top 2 backs in elijah hood and Tj logan and them most importantly their top qb trubisky who likely will be the first qb taken....

Va tech losing jerod evans who was really good at qb, Bucky hodges and Isaiah ford... they lost ALOT
matter of fact both teams lost a lot more than Miami did offensively especially considering what we have to replace our guys who left with

Only issue on our schedule this year is the FSU game. If we get slightly above average qb play, but the playmakers around him play above average, we roll!

UNC on the road is a win. VTech at home is a win. This team is ready to blow up, just look and listen to the players and staff.
 
Having to play FSU every year makes winning the Coastal harder for us. It's a big reason why we've yet to win, and will continue to be.

/WTACCOGTFO

But some teams play against L'ville, Clemson, and/or FSU (any combination). No excuses, it is not difficult. Every team's schedule is difficult.

True....GT plays Clemson every year but has still won the coastal 4 times since we joined the ACC. Plus we've dominated them since joining but they've managed to win the division.
 
Winning... Truth be told, many teams spit on our name and can't wait to play us. For years, teams in and out of the ACC have taken turns kicking our ***. If not one team, then another jumps up. All wanting to beat "THE GREAT MIAMI". Playing us is like playing your most hated rivalry and every one gets pumped up for the game. Teams like VT, NC, Va, GT, all have beaten us over the past 10 years since losing to VA in the OB.

Finally we have a great coaching staff that brings strength, knowledge, attitude and commitment to winning. Being in our second year, I see us like "1999"... We had a great team but played and lost to #1 , 2 and #3 that year ending with ( 9/4). In "2000" we went (11/1)...

Worst case 9/3 (6 and 2 ACC) but could easily be 10/2 (7 and 1) and we take COASTAL.

CANES...CANES...CANES!!!

You're getting carried away... all of those teams had been beating us well before we lost the VA in the OB. :culpability:
 
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It's still the goal, and IMO always the minimum criteria for a successful season.

So, how will we do it? Can we?

VT and UNC will be better, I can't see Fuente regressing and he took over a program in decline and went to the ACC CG. Fedora is a clown, I stand by that, but they have to be as good or better, 2016 was a rebuilding year.

I assume we have to be much better offensively in 2017, have much better playcalling, even assuming rightly that our D is better,

We have Free Shoes, which arguably puts us one game in the hole. (Playing them in Tallahassee, with a freshman QB, and they will be better, and have an experienced QB albeit without Cook). Even if we win, we still have to beat VT and UNC, and not slip up against the other Coastal clowns.

VT at home, at UNC. Two game schedule for the Coastal. (If @Pitt is a question mark, we aren't Coastal Champ material).

How do we do it? Can we?

I'd say again our big "Next Year's Class" needs a Coastal Championship as a prerequisite.

Losing and replacing Dalvin > losing and replacing Kaaya

You're talking about losing a player who singlehandedly won his team several games, including at least 2 against us, versus one that was merely solid, but never actually took command of any close or pivotal games. In fact, Kaaya's record against ranked opponents is pretty abysmal.

I like our chances against FSU a lot this year.
 
we will be fine this year is the bridge to greatness. even with below average or bad qb play we go at least 9-3 in the regular season. I fully and we all should fully expect improvement on the O-Line which will lead to an improved running game and the defense should also be expected to improve those improvements alone will get it done and how good those two factors will determine if we go 9-3 or 11-1/12-0 minus key injuries. I can't wait for this season to start!!!!
 
Is it possible to agree with OP's premise while disagreeing with every single he typed to support his premise?
 
If Richt doesn't win the Coastal this year he needs to get the pink slip. And unless you're a mindless coach slurper like Chris Bello(on itsauthing), Brock, or ThomasM , I'm not sure why you'd be in favor of Richt's retention.

Fire him... If he doesn't win coastal in his second year... unbelievable

Look at the coaching staff he's put together, look at the team and the attitude adjustment since 2015, look at what he's accomplished playing freshmen, look at the (Outstanding) improved defense in one year, look at 2018 and the #1 recruiting rating of kids wanting to come to the U and that's just in the beginning.

With comments like yours, it's better to say nothing.


This will be an awful year for the division. Even by ACC Coastal standards it'll be a down year.

If he can't win the division this year he needs to go. Who cares about his recruiting or his coaching staff if he can't win with it.

Barring a giant rash of significant injuries that cripple our roster compared to our opponents' injury situations, if Rick doesn't win the Coastal this year, then all the fears about him as a guy who can't win significant games are justified. A decimation of the roster is the only viable excuse for not winning the Coastal this year.

I love everything Rick is doing managing and building the program, but at the end of the day, it doesn't mean much if you can't achieve what should be minimum expectations here--winning the Coastal.
 
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I saw the thread title and had deja vu from 2011 and then got depressed that it is 2017 and we are still talking about just reaching the championship game.



We couldn't win the Coastal Division in 2011 because of our self imposed sanctions.

We were tri champions of the Coastal in 2012 and might have gone to the ACCG if it weren't for our self imposed sanctions. Not sure how the tiebreakers would have worked since all 3 of the teams in first went 1-1 vs each other.

Glad you can remember that minutia. Not really the point of my post. The point is I have been on this board since around that time and a similar thread pops up every year. Just ready for it to happen already since if you had asked me in 2011 I would tell you there would be no way we wouldn't make at least one ACC CG by the distant future of 2017.
 
If Richt doesn't win the Coastal this year he needs to get the pink slip. And unless you're a mindless coach slurper like Chris Bello(on itsauthing), Brock, or ThomasM , I'm not sure why you'd be in favor of Richt's retention.

Just fire the fūck out of him and start over again. Excellent strategy. Sound thinking.



You are one brilliant motherfūcker. So, genius, who would you recommend as our next coach?


If Richt doesn't win the Coastal this year that means that he'll have won 2 division titles in the last 12 years. While coaching in 2 unbelievably bad divisions. (The SEC East and ACC Coastal)

I don't know who I'd hire. But I'd search for a coach who can win divisions at a higher rate than that.


If the acc coastal is weak as you think it may be and richt can't win it then yea, you may have a point but I don't know if I'd go as far as firing him. A lot of it rides on how Miami's qb performs and if his play in hinder'd or enhanced by richt via play calling/ game planning/ scheme etc.
 
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Man our schedule is charmin soft! Hopefully this is the last year it's like this! Who do we have next year besides LSU?
 
If Richt doesn't win the Coastal this year he needs to get the pink slip. And unless you're a mindless coach slurper like Chris Bello(on itsauthing), Brock, or ThomasM , I'm not sure why you'd be in favor of Richt's retention.

Just fire the fūck out of him and start over again. Excellent strategy. Sound thinking.



You are one brilliant motherfūcker. So, genius, who would you recommend as our next coach?


If Richt doesn't win the Coastal this year that means that he'll have won 2 division titles in the last 12 years. While coaching in 2 unbelievably bad divisions. (The SEC East and ACC Coastal)

I don't know who I'd hire. But I'd search for a coach who can win divisions at a higher rate than that.


If the acc coastal is weak as you think it may be and richt can't win it then yea, you may have a point but I don't know if I'd go as far as firing him. A lot of it rides on how Miami's qb performs and if his play in hinder'd or enhanced by richt via play calling/ game planning/ scheme etc.

He clearly won't get fired, so it's stupid to even think about it or discuss it.

But I get the gist of what Cane707 is saying. He'll know Rick isn't a championship level HC if he can't win the Coastal this year, and we'll likely just be trudging along at 9 or 10 wins per season with the occasional Coastal title as long as he's HC. He's saying that's not good enough, and he'd just move on right away instead of trudging along.
 
We're going to win the coastal, staff understands how to win. No more losing to cupcake teams. 2018 will contend for playoffs ....
 
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If Richt doesn't win the Coastal this year he needs to get the pink slip. And unless you're a mindless coach slurper like Chris Bello(on itsauthing), Brock, or ThomasM , I'm not sure why you'd be in favor of Richt's retention.

Fire him... If he doesn't win coastal in his second year... unbelievable

Look at the coaching staff he's put together, look at the team and the attitude adjustment since 2015, look at what he's accomplished playing freshmen, look at the (Outstanding) improved defense in one year, look at 2018 and the #1 recruiting rating of kids wanting to come to the U and that's just in the beginning.

With comments like yours, it's better to say nothing.


This will be an awful year for the division. Even by ACC Coastal standards it'll be a down year.

If he can't win the division this year he needs to go. Who cares about his recruiting or his coaching staff if he can't win with it.

Troll alert.

Either that, or you're just dumb as fūck.

No sense in trying logic, intelligence or good common sense with you.

Either a troll or a big dumb fūcktard. Either way, stop posting.

Its not like you've had any intelligent responses just more corn ball internet mall cop BS. Just because he days something not popular doesn't mean troll.

The comment about rich being fired is silly to me at this point but why don't you try to talk football instead of crying all the got dam time. You're the biggest cry baby here.
 
If Richt doesn't win the Coastal this year he needs to get the pink slip. And unless you're a mindless coach slurper like Chris Bello(on itsauthing), Brock, or ThomasM , I'm not sure why you'd be in favor of Richt's retention.

Just fire the fūck out of him and start over again. Excellent strategy. Sound thinking.



You are one brilliant motherfūcker. So, genius, who would you recommend as our next coach?


If Richt doesn't win the Coastal this year that means that he'll have won 2 division titles in the last 12 years. While coaching in 2 unbelievably bad divisions. (The SEC East and ACC Coastal)

I don't know who I'd hire. But I'd search for a coach who can win divisions at a higher rate than that.


If the acc coastal is weak as you think it may be and richt can't win it then yea, you may have a point but I don't know if I'd go as far as firing him. A lot of it rides on how Miami's qb performs and if his play in hinder'd or enhanced by richt via play calling/ game planning/ scheme etc.

He clearly won't get fired, so it's stupid to even think about it or discuss it.

But I get the gist of what Cane707 is saying. He'll know Rick isn't a championship level HC if he can't win the Coastal this year, and we'll likely just be trudging along at 9 or 10 wins per season with the occasional Coastal title as long as he's HC. He's saying that's not good enough, and he'd just move on right away instead of trudging along.

Agree. He's not gonna get fired. Doesn't deserve it IMO. At this point. We'll see how he manages this qb situation. That will tell alot
 
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