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Why did you all think Richt was such a great coach?

OrangetieFatface said:
Richt will probably be fine in the long run. He won the SEC east a couple times which is slightly to moderately harder then winning the ACC coastal. Hes not a world beater, but he knows how to survive for 15 years which tells me he will conform to public pressure.

He was literally dead last on my list of preferred coaches. Fuente, Babers, Herman, Butch, The Pirate, Patterson; in no particular order. But he's not a 5-7 last place in the Coastal coach. I'd have to guess that this is an outlier, and he will coach here for probably a decade(because no one in Coral Gables has the stones to fire him) and average nine wins a season, because thats what he does.
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He might go 5-7 this year
 
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The Richt hire was and is a good hire. He knows what he is doing and it was not a quick fix. A bad OL, thin WR corps, thin secondary and depth issues made this season somewhat predictable. 2017 and 2018 will be much better, with the results we have all dreamed of for a decade.
 
Canezum5 said:
amanan28 said:
Mainly because he is the first semi-competent HC we have had in over a decade (jury is still out) and he raised UGA from the ashes.

I dont think anybody denies him being a good CEO type figure for a program. However, many thought his OC days at FSU would carry over. Now we just have to wait and see until the offseason on how he deals with his playcalling mishaps.

Also, many thought that with the talent we have down here and the recruiting prowess Richt was/is that the games would win themselves...time will tell.

IMO Harbaraugh is the only coach right now in college football who can take a mediocre roster and turn them into a really good football team. He did it in San Francisco and he's doing it in Michigan, not many of those guys just waiting around waiting to be hired. We ultimately got the best we could in Richt in setting up a foundation for the future.
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Only because of his name.

His connections run deep af. His staff is full of NFL caliber coaches. His brother is 10 times the coach he is.

Don't confuse knowing people with good coaching.
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He also did it at a much higher level (the pros with the 49ers).
 
amanan28 said:
Canezum5 said:
amanan28 said:
Mainly because he is the first semi-competent HC we have had in over a decade (jury is still out) and he raised UGA from the ashes.

I dont think anybody denies him being a good CEO type figure for a program. However, many thought his OC days at FSU would carry over. Now we just have to wait and see until the offseason on how he deals with his playcalling mishaps.

Also, many thought that with the talent we have down here and the recruiting prowess Richt was/is that the games would win themselves...time will tell.

IMO Harbaraugh is the only coach right now in college football who can take a mediocre roster and turn them into a really good football team. He did it in San Francisco and he's doing it in Michigan, not many of those guys just waiting around waiting to be hired. We ultimately got the best we could in Richt in setting up a foundation for the future.
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Only because of his name.

His connections run deep af. His staff is full of NFL caliber coaches. His brother is 10 times the coach he is.

Don't confuse knowing people with good coaching.
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He took over a 6-10 franchise that had never finished better than 8-8 in its previous eight seasons, and immediately went 13-3 with a trip to the NFC Championship game. He upped that to a Super Bowl berth in Year 2.....looks like pretty good coaching to me.
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He was one of the best coaches in the NFL when he got "let go". He is a top 3 coach in college. If I was starting over and could pick any coach in college, I would likely take him first. If he wins it all in year 2, he may be the best coach in college today.

Look at what he did at Stanford, 49ers and now Michigan.
 
iLoveTDs said:
You don't accidentally win 10 games a year in the SEC for 15 years. I don't know if he'll win here, but the guy can coach. (not elite, but really good).
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True but...We hired a guy and we knew the following:

- His inferior record against ranked opponents,
- His record against UF (Urban came into the conference in 2005 (05-10). During that time Richt went 1-5 against UF,
- He hasn't won the conference since 2005, his real success came before Saban,
- His last 3 seasons: 27 - 11 (16-8), zero division titles and zero BCS games. For his career, he has a 74% winning percentage. During that span he had a 71%. In conference for his career 69%. During that span 67%. The point is the numbers are falling, the coaching has been better (opponent wise).
 
Lets fire Richt right now and really send a message to college football perspective coaches everywhere.

"We won't give you any time to implement anything."

Solid choice Cane fanbase. Solid choice.

He gets 2 years like everyone else from me.
 
To answer OP's question. I never did. The hire never got me excited in anyway. He was ~10 win coach at UGA who was having less success recently. He performed poorly against ranked teams and that isn't good. His real success happened before Saban and ~10 years ago.

I remember when the "alleged" choices were Richt, Schiano, Cristobal and a bunch of other losers, he was the best of a crappy group. That isn't a compliment. It was some of the worst candidates out there. It was a classic UM hire (at least recently).

We got rid of Golden, 2 years too late. There was some hope when we finally let him go. Then I remembered we're Miami and we have horrible decisions makers. Then we hire a recently fired coach...I hoped that he would come in and energize the program. I was ready for a new start.

Now, I am not giving up on him. I am willing to give this season a pass if he makes serious changes on the offense, mostly firing himself from OC and bringing in a darn good one.
 
Hegemon said:
Lets fire Richt right now and really send a message to college football perspective coaches everywhere.

"We won't give you any time to implement anything."

Solid choice Cane fanbase. Solid choice.

He gets 2 years like everyone else from me.
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Either way, Coach Richt is likely to be here for much longer than you're giving him. I think most of us accept that he'll be around for at least 5 years and will be given every opportunity. And, most want to watch him succeed if only to avoid another ****show transition. Doesn't mean we can't talk about the good and bad in the meanwhile.

I fail to see why people "for Kaaya" can't see fault in him and people "against Kaaya" can't see fault in coaching so far.
 
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LuCane said:
Hegemon said:
Lets fire Richt right now and really send a message to college football perspective coaches everywhere.

"We won't give you any time to implement anything."

Solid choice Cane fanbase. Solid choice.

He gets 2 years like everyone else from me.
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Either way, Coach Richt is likely to be here for much longer than you're giving him. I think most of us accept that he'll be around for at least 5 years and will be given every opportunity. And, most want to watch him succeed if only to avoid another ****show transition. Doesn't mean we can't talk about the good and bad in the meanwhile.

I fail to see why people "for Kaaya" can't see fault in him and people "against Kaaya" can't see fault in coaching so far.
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I was implying quite a bit of sarcasm. I agree with you unless he totally ***** the bed he will be here for 4-5 years.

Personally I think most of what Richt is trying to do is hamstrung by Kaaya. Regardless of the offense we're running (RPO with Kaaya is patently absurd) I do not believe Kaaya is capable of making a decision in a timely manner.

I also think he comes across like a timid puss and this permeates the offense. I don't care if he's injured. Put in someone else because we're averaging under 20 points on offense at this point over the last 5 games.

It's safe to say next year (assuming the coaching staff stays the same) our defense is going to be naaaaaaaasty.

Offense?

Who knows man.
 
Golsen82 said:
OrangetieFatface said:
Richt will probably be fine in the long run. He won the SEC east a couple times which is slightly to moderately harder then winning the ACC coastal. Hes not a world beater, but he knows how to survive for 15 years which tells me he will conform to public pressure.

He was literally dead last on my list of preferred coaches. Fuente, Babers, Herman, Butch, The Pirate, Patterson; in no particular order. But he's not a 5-7 last place in the Coastal coach. I'd have to guess that this is an outlier, and he will coach here for probably a decade(because no one in Coral Gables has the stones to fire him) and average nine wins a season, because thats what he does.
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He might go 5-7 this year
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He might go 4-8 this year. At this point I think it's an outlier.
 
Some of you actually :stupid:think that suddenly Richt has forgotten how to RECRUIT/WIN?
 
Good thread, no screaming, well thought out posts, some really good posts. Gonna go check and see if I'm on the right board.

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The one thing i thought was he will be able to recruit and that doesnt look like the case. Second i didnt get y people were saying fsu offense was good when he was there knowing it was like a 1945 ww2 offense its 2016. I did like that he recruits savage running backs......but sfla is a different animal and if hecant recruit the savages here he will getfired in year 4-5. UGA still recruit savages which leads me to believe that coaches recruit but theschools structure ($$$) is who recruits. Coach puts in the plan and every acts on it ($$$). If u aint oaying especially in sfla u wont win because fsu success keeps us at bay n if they keep landing sfla studs we willalways suk. Sfla feeds UM we need to feed them too
 
I can't believe we gave this mutha ***ka a pay raise after getting fired tho. Who does that? We have some stupid mugs running this program.
 
I don't understand why people assume Butch is better than Richt. Butch's recruiting at UNC isn't any better than Richt at UGA. If your argument is Miami helped Butch recruit in the 90's and would help him recruit today then logically that should apply to Richt as well. As far as game day, give me a break. They called him "Botch" Davis for a reason.
 
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I don't think as many people used "great" as you are giving credit.

While the hire could have been a LOT worse, my fear is becoming the next Georgia or Wisconsin, winning 9 or 10 games regularly but never truly being in contention. Give me higher highs and lower lows any day. My reaction was one of relative disappointment because I do not see success coming easier to Richt here than Georgia for the following reasons:

Competition: The road to a conference title in a conference with Dabo at Clemson and Jimbo at FSU is not substantially easier than the SEC. I know, Nick Saban, but Jimbo has a title recently, and Dabo has played for one recently. Both those programs are recruiting in the top 10 and will be extremely talented and competitive as long as those coaches are there. That doesn't even include the emergence of Louisville as a BCS caliber team with Petrine (his recruiting will only get stronger) and seemingly stellar hires by both Pitt and VaTech of coveted coaches.

Recruiting: I don't think he will be able to assemble a more talented roster at Miami than he had at Georgia. Being one of the big 3 with poachers nation wide in south Florida is not an easier task than being the big dog in a very talent rich state of Georgia. I know there is more sheer volume of D1 talent in Florida, but for the first time in 15+ years he will be fighting for it as the perceived little guy with both major in state programs enjoying more success more recently. Additionally, he will be in a perceived weaker conference, he will have less local support on game day than he is used to. He will have a smaller athletic department and fewer dollars to work with. You hear kids say they think they are an SEC player, not an ACC player. The perception is real.

Track Record: Regardless of his wins/season average that everyone was touting, he doesn't win big games, he doesn't win conference championships, he doesn't win national championships, and he can't beat his rival with regularity. These things should scare the living **** out of you regardless of his "10 wins a year in the SEC" tag. He has 2 conference championships in 15 seasons and went 5-10 against Florida, that is not good enough in Georgia (terminated as a result), and it will not be good enough here.

I expect Richt to be faced with termination or retirement by the end of year 4 here.
 
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