Why corrupt recruiting schools have future problems

[Hemsleysalmons]

You don’t know shiat for a fact. Stop it. I’m much older than you, and have waaay more career experience. I KNOW these schools because I actually vet resumes, interview and hire Employees and have done so for nearly a decade. I live and work in New York, but the world is much bigger than New York. Ever heard of Atlanta or Charlotte? They have banking presences too, but there are many more jobs out there than finance.

My qualifications are: I have 3 degrees from some of the best universities in the world, an Ivy MBA, I worked at 2 of the top 3 consulting firms in the world, and I made partner. I’m telling you flat out both my former firms recruited UGA and Emory hard in the state of GA. UGA is looked upon more favorably than Miami in consultant and finance (where the big dogs play).

I am impressed with your academic and career background. Sort of. But your comments and posts regarding Canes football on CIS is not up to the standards you have set in your academic and business career. Perhaps there is an institution you can attend to make you a more effective and knowledgeable participant on this forum.

 

[Hemsleysalmons]

What's the RTP?

Research triangle park in Cary, NC which is a suburb of Raleigh. Look it up on your device. It is becoming a major player for many Fortune 500 companies locating their research departments there.

 

[GOCANES05]

Research triangle park in Cary, NC which is a suburb of Raleigh. Look it up on your device. It is becoming a major player for many Fortune 500 companies locating their research departments there.

Tax incentives or a mighty big check, ooops of course all allegedly

 

[Hemsleysalmons]

USNEWS (2019) Rankings: https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/university-of-miami-135726/overall-rankings

Undergrad:
Miami: #53
UGA: #46

Grad school:
Business
UGA: #40
Miami #65

Education
UGA: #37
Miami: #68

Engineering
UGA: #122
Miami: #97

Law
UGA: #32
Miami: #65

Medical
UGA: N/A
Miami: #50

Nursing
UGA: N/A
Miami: #42

Pharmacy
UGA: #25
Miami: N/A

Veterinary
UGA: #10
Miami: N/A

ARWU (2018) Rankings: http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2018.html
Miami: National (#70-95) International (#201-300)
UGA: National (#70-95) International (#201-300)

Forbes (2018) Rankings: https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/
Miami: #100
UGA: #103

Washington Monthly (2018) Rankings: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018college-guide
Miami: #252
UGA: #81

QS (2019) World Rankings: https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2019
Miami: #242
UGA: #431

Times US (2018) Rankings: https://www.timeshighereducation.co...gth/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats
Miami: #47
UGA: #240

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Bonus

Niche College (2019) Rankings: https://www.niche.com/colleges/rankings/
Miami: #81
UGA: #67

Endowment (2017) Ranking: https://www.nacubo.org/-/media/Nacu...hash=E71088CDC05C76FCA30072DA109F91BBC10B0290
Miami: #108 ($948,579)
UGA: #90 ($1,151,904)

NSF - Total Research and Expenditures (2016) Ranking: https://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/profiles/site?method=rankingBySource&ds=herd
Miami: #62
UGA: #54


Conclusion: Neither school is "significantly" better than the other (one school isn't completely dominating other in rankings). Some rankings UGA> Miami and other rankings Miami> UGA.

Foolish and boring dialog pertaining to quality of different colleges. Most importantly, you can safely categorize our football program as mediocre and Georgia’s as very good and possibly moving up to being elite.

 

[GOCANES05]

I highly recommend

Rodney Dangerfields “ Back to School “

I have yet to find an electrical engineer, architect or specifier that ever ever understood the scope of any project or has taken any responsibility for ******** load calculations feeder voltage drop let alon fault current and hand to PAY for themselves they’ve always revised plans and caused project to go over budget.

I have to always make time and talk to these people slowly as to get past there we’ll Zi have EEE at the end of my name attitude before they start blaming others for interpretation errors they drew up .

Obviously degrees in construction business are the root of bridges and structures cracking of being redesigned at others expense.

 

[RVACane]

The top 3 consulting companies in the world are: McKinsey, BCG and Bain. Period.

They do NOT recruit Georgia and Emory students to their NYC, San Francisco, or LA offices. They recruit these country bumpkins to their Atlanta office, so that the Coca Cola, Delta and/or Home Depot mandates have some local "fellas" that the employees can relate to.

Here is another FACT.... Emory was caught FALSIFYING SAT scores for its students a few years ago in order to maintain its US NEws ranking. Woddruff and Goizueta gave Emory $3B in cash to try and turn it into a Duke. They were former CEOs of Coca Cola.

I lived in Druid Hills for 4 years, down the street from Emory. The school is 70% Asian and admits purely on SAT score.

Emory students could not obtain a job in NYC if there lives depended on it.

I worked for a fund in Atlanta for four years. The city is a DUMP and 50 years away from matching the LAs, NYCs, DCs, Seattles or Bostons. Frankly, my friends say that Austin is better.

Atlanta is the Duke of Hazzard.

My best friend's kid did as an Emory graduate but I dont know which firm in NYC nor the position but i can find out. That said, I'm sure it's more the exception. The guys i grew up with who ended up on Wall Street at places like Goldman have undergrad degrees from Penn and MIT.

 

[RVACane]

For criminal RICO you need a willing prosecutor. Good luck with that.

Civil RICO, I'm not sure what the violations are. I'm considering a civil RICO case right now.

I wrote a paper for a Civil Rico class in law school involving strict liability of the environmental laws (CERCLA). I booked the class. Can't remember much about it though.

 

[umhurricane2511]

Rankings don't mean ****. UGA is not a better school. You have 0 chance of landing any good Investment Banking, Private Equity, etc. jobs straight out of college if you go to UGA. 0 chance. Those rankings factor in BS majors like teaching, communications, philosophy, etc. UGA may be better at those majors, but majors that actually will get you far in the real world UM has them beat.

There’s too much wrong here to keep track of

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

There’s too much wrong here to keep track of

Found the communications major.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

Completely untrue. Going to Miami over UGA will not give you a significant advantage in the Investment Banking, Private Equity job market. Also, UGA has good subject rankings and non-BS majors. Not sure where you are getting your information from. UGA is strong for business, law, education, veterinary medicine, pharmacy and Miami is strong in engineering, medical, and nursing.

Well considering the fact that your chances of getting a good IB job right out of college as a UGA grad is 0. I would say it is a significant advantage. You proved my point. UGA is good in BS majors like Pharmacy, Vet Medicine, Education, etc. You are wrong about business though. They are garbage.

 

[JohnAllan]

Well considering the fact that your chances of getting a good IB job right out of college as a UGA grad is 0. I would say it is a significant advantage. You proved my point. UGA is good in BS majors like Pharmacy, Vet Medicine, Education, etc. You are wrong about business though. They are garbage.

Getting a doctor in Pharmacy and Vet medicine is BS? Are you kidding me? Also, how am I wrong about business? I stated UGA’s business school ranking based on the website. I think your trolling at this point.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

Getting a doctor in Pharmacy and Vet medicine is BS? Are you kidding me? Also, how am I wrong about business? I stated UGA’s business school ranking based on the website. I think your trolling at this point.

Both of those jobs are high floor low ceiling jobs. If that is the major someone is interested in then good for them. THey are helping people so I appreciate there effort, but I would never let my kids major in either of those options. As I said before some random website ranking doesn't mean ****. I can tell you from actual experience. No UGA grad is getting a good entry level IB job straight out of college. Most Miami grads wont get one either, but they still have a shot where as UGA will not.

 

[Gatorhater]

For criminal RICO you need a willing prosecutor. Good luck with that.

Civil RICO, I'm not sure what the violations are. I'm considering a civil RICO case right now.

Just back from Bermuda. You are right. One wanting to make major name for themselve in liberal area. Long shot that anyone would but what fun it would be—- the seizure amounts could be billions. Certainly more exciting than our football right now

 

[canesproponent]

Both of those jobs are high floor low ceiling jobs. If that is the major someone is interested in then good for them. THey are helping people so I appreciate there effort, but I would never let my kids major in either of those options. As I said before some random website ranking doesn't mean ****. I can tell you from actual experience. No UGA grad is getting a good entry level IB job straight out of college. Most Miami grads wont get one either, but they still have a shot where as UGA will not.

This is a fact. In regard to Southern schools, NYC only hires from Duke and UVA, and sometimes Vanderbilt.

Approximately 150 students accepted NYC investment banking jobs from my graduating college class. Over 60% of them quit within the year, and these are people that grew up in LA, SF, Chicago, DC and NYC. (After 5-years in NYC, there were only 25 of us left from the original 150.) The South has a completely different culture, and academic competition at Emory is totally different than at Princeton (or even Georgetown for that matter). You can obtain a great education anywhere, but the mindset to withstand NYC and, worse, its work environment is completely anathema to a Southerner or to someone who spent 4-years in college in the South. UVA and Duke are undoubtedly the exception. UNC kids possess the "academic chops" but lack the will to endure 100-hour weeks and 7-days a week for one's career. There are exceptions, such as James Harrison who ran JP Morgan/Chase, BUT he started out in commercial banking, which is a completely different animal.

Johny Mack from Morgan Stanley was Summa *** Laude at Duke AND was also a star Linebacker. Obviously, he excelled on Wall Street.

 

[canesproponent]

This is a fact. In regard to Southern schools, NYC only hires from Duke and UVA, and sometimes Vanderbilt.

Approximately 150 students accepted NYC investment banking jobs from my graduating college class. Over 60% of them quit within the year, and these are people that grew up in LA, SF, Chicago, DC and NYC. (After 5-years in NYC, there were only 25 of us left from the original 150.) The South has a completely different culture, and academic competition at Emory is totally different than at Princeton (or even Georgetown for that matter). You can obtain a great education anywhere, but the mindset to withstand NYC and, worse, its work environment is completely anathema to a Southerner or to someone who spent 4-years in college in the South. UVA and Duke are undoubtedly the exception. UNC kids possess the "academic chops" but lack the will to endure 100-hour weeks and 7-days a week for one's career. There are exceptions, such as James Harrison who ran JP Morgan/Chase, BUT he started out in commercial banking, which is a completely different animal.

Johny Mack from Morgan Stanley was Summa *** Laude at Duke AND was also a star Linebacker. Obviously, he excelled on Wall Street.

Georgia Tech graduates could excel on the Street, but they are too smart and focus on Computer Science, Robotics and Mechanical Engineering. The academic competition at GTEch, MIT, Stanford and/or CalTEch is just as tough as the Ivys.

Virginia Tech engineers excel at Private Equity. Many funds hire them for cheap and many of these students make partner.

 

[CashMoneyCane]

Completely untrue. Going to Miami over UGA will not give you a significant advantage in the Investment Banking, Private Equity job market. Also, UGA has good subject rankings and non-BS majors. Not sure where you are getting your information from. UGA is strong for business, law, education, veterinary medicine, pharmacy and Miami is strong in engineering, medical, and nursing.

I worked for <insert enormous Investment Bank name here> in both Florida and NYC. I worked with several Miami grads, and knew many, many other Miami grads working in similar positions in other firms. At no point in the entire time I lived in NYC (about 8 years) did I meet a Georgia grad working in banking.

I'll take my firsthand experience over the opinion of someone who never had a banking job in NYC.

 

[CashMoneyCane]

My best friend's kid did as an Emory graduate but I dont know which firm in NYC nor the position but i can find out. That said, I'm sure it's more the exception. The guys i grew up with who ended up on Wall Street at places like Goldman have undergrad degrees from Penn and MIT.

I know FOUR Miami grads that ended up at Goldman, specifically.

 

[RVACane]

I knw FOUR Miami grads that ended up at Goldman, specifically.

Wow... Nice work by them.

 

[sabrose]

UM is a decent, nothing special school that desperately tries to be something it can never be; the duke of the further south. We will never even be remotely close to that type of academic school.

They spent 2 billion dollars, inflated grades, made entrance requirements tougher, and destroyed the football program to try to be a top academic institution and guess what? We are back where we started, out of the top 50.

And UF is at 35.

 

[CashMoneyCane]

Wow... Nice work by them.

Disagree. Unless all you care about is money, it's not a place you want to work.

They're absurdly shady.

Oh and also I thought of another one so make it five. Except she was not in the front office and got paid drastically below market, which is surprising for Goldman.