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Pixelated bukake said:
I do not assume anything until there is an official announcement from the University. But, let's say it is Gino. His current LinkedIn bio has his current role at GAMCO Investors, Inc. as "Institutional asset management. Public Funds, Taft-Hartley and High Net Worth clientele." How does institutional asset management correlate to running an athletic program? Is there some overlap? How are the tasks and objectives similar?

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The better question is what are the qualifications to be an AD? What does the educational curriculum look like to earn a sports-management degree, and what makes some ADs more successful than others? The rest is lived experience, leadership, communication-skills and vision.

You just have to let this play out.
 
My questions for Mr. Toretta would include the following, Are you your own man that can make his own decisions… or are you a gah**** puppet, whose job it is, to do what you’re told? Do you have the nuts to fire underperforming corches? How good are you at recruiting talent? Can you recognize a good coach, even if his overall record is not the best? Last one… Manny Diaz? Fire or Keep? If he hesitates for more than 3 seconds on that last one….. tell him to gtfo!
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canester95 said:
Gino has pulled no punches in his criticism of the program. No reason to think he changes that stance.

Put up or shut up.
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Put up what, he has no AD experience, like Manny had no HC experience! We are a joke of a University, we just hire people and we make sure they do not have the qualifications for the job when we hire them, that is are only requirement is that you meet none of the requirements! Why does everyone fall for this every time, here we go again, stepping in the same pile of dog crap we just stepped in 3 years ago with Manny, I can't even believe this is a University in good standing, we are like some joke that we keep showing the world how inept UM is at everything.

Imagine having your pick of Florida football talent and this is what you have produced the past 20 years. If you want to know why then look no further at the efforts to hire Manny Diaz in 6 hours along with an exhaustive search for a new AD that includes former players as our focus. So embarrassed if this is true, I love the old players but be qualified to do something before you throw your hat in the ring and drag your university down in the process.
 
ThomasG954 said:
I know most on this board only care about football, but baseball and basketball are absolutely down the ****ter too.

Football is the most important but the hire shouldn’t only be about football. We have maybe the most embarrassing P5 basketball program in the country and a baseball program in almost the exact same situation as football.

The fact they’ve basically come out and said the hire is to improve football only is so short-sighted.

Just like good football doesn’t have to be at the expense of the academics, it also doesn’t have to be at the expense of baseball and basketball.

Get a real AD who can lift the department up as a WHOLE.
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Why do you assume former student-athletes can't have the organizational skills to "lift the department up as a WHOLE" or address issues of competitiveness in other sports... The dumb jock narrative is infecting the minds of a lot of people on this board.
 
There is no evidence Gino Torreta can be a capable or effective Athletic Director. Doesn't mean he cannot be. There is just no evidence. His primary qualification seems to be some people on the board like him and he played quarterback at Miami.

Look at the top 25 Athletic Directors in college football; by any criteria you wish. Let me know how many of them are first-time Athletic Directors and/or played football at that program. At least Alvarez at Wiscy was a successful coach first.

Im shorting Toretta all day. If he is the AD, I pray he proves me wrong on that bet.
 
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PIPO said:
Many here complain about Miami not caring about football. It’s obviously valid as many things done over the last 20 years show that.

Well, looks like Miami is going out and getting Gino as AD. Possibly Zo in some capacity and possibly Mario as HC.

If that doesn’t slap you in the face as Miami now starting to care about football, I don’t know what will.

There are valid points for no prior AD experience, Miami only people, etc.

Let’s give it a chance if this is how it’s going to play out. It’s Miami caring about football. Let’s not miss on that.
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The time for trying something new or giving things a shot is long past. We have spent 20 years languishing away as mediocre team in a mediocre P5 division for far too long. If the University is committed to fielding a team worthy of the logo then we should hire an AD that has experience and a history of success PERIOD

Gino would be a nice story but, with the way CFB has been monetized and professionalized in the 21st century the University cannot afford to miss on these hires. The University must hire a top flight AD with legit experience and a no bull**** attitude to combat the cronyism and nepotism that runs rampant on the BOT that invades University admin hierarchy.
 
rvalenza said:
Because it’s a nepotism hire for a guy that has no experience. It’s A Middling move made by a middling program. If he does in fact get the job, I hope I’m wrong and will gladly eat crow.
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Fair enough! I certainly respect what you are saying.
 
Kn[]_[]ckles3o5 said:
The time for trying something new or giving things a shot is long past. We have spent 20 years languishing away as mediocre team in a mediocre P5 division for far too long. If the University is committed to fielding a team worthy of the logo then we should hire an AD that has experience and a history of success PERIOD

Gino would be a nice story but, with the way CFB has been monetized and professionalized in the 21st century the University cannot afford to miss on these hires. The University must hire a top flight AD with legit experience and a no bull**** attitude to combat the cronyism and nepotism that runs rampant on the BOT that invades University admin hierarchy.
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All very fair points.
 
Pearson704 said:
Why do you assume former student-athletes can't have the organizational skills to "lift the department up as a WHOLE" or address issues of competitiveness in other sports... The dumb jock narrative is infecting the minds of a lot of people on this board.
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Yeah nothing to do with that- you made it about that. They have intentionally stated through media this hire is football focused. Getting a former football player basically confirms that.

Torretta is clearly smart based on his business success but is not qualified for this job. That doesn’t mean he is a “dumb jock”, it means he is not qualified.
 
Pearson704 said:
What does that mean?
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It means that the key to Zo’s success or failure as AD will be his raw intelligence. I believe that aptitude is at least as important as experience. I don’t how HOW smart Zo is. I know he’s smart. But he has to be REALLY smart to successfully make the transition to big time AD… his intelligence has to overcome his inexperience. I have no way of knowing if he is THAT smart.

I hope he is and gets the AD spot. But I have no way of knowing.
 
ThomasG954 said:
Yeah nothing to do with that- you made it about that. They have intentionally stated through media this hire is football focused. Getting a former football player basically confirms that.

Torretta is clearly smart based on his business success but is not qualified for this job. That doesn’t mean he is a “dumb jock”, it means he is not qualified.
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and what are the qualifications required to "lift the department as a WHOLE", because your statement inherently suggests they can lift football but not the entire athletic department?

You may not be doing it intentionally, but you're using nebulous terms like "qualified" without identifying what qualifications allow them to execute the job in part, yet somehow prevents them translating those skills and doing the job on a "WHOLE"; if they both have the organizational & leadership skills to run football, why can't they also be administrators for the other college sports?
 
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Pearson704 said:
and what are the qualifications required to "lift the department as a WHOLE", because your statement inherently suggests they can lift football but not the entire athletic department?

You may not be doing it intentionally, but you're using nebulous terms like "qualified" without identifying what qualifications allow them to execute the job in part, yet somehow prevents them translating those skills and doing the job on a "WHOLE"; if they both have the organizational & leadership skills to run football, why can't they also be administrators for the other college sports?
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You’re making this way bigger than it is brother. The school has stated the plan is to make a hire designed around football. I am explaining the SCHOOL’S objective which they have literally stated through credentialed media.

That is why they are looking at names that have experience with football and are not QUALIFIED outside of that because they have no athletic department experience.

Could they do a good job? Sure. Doesn’t mean they were qualified to start. That’s all I’ll say on the matter, have a good Wednesday man.
 
Apparently all that's needed to be the right AD hire to save this already sunken ship of ours is to have any sort of success in literally any other field. That's why I put my whole backing for Jeopardy's Ken Jennings to be our next AD, ladies and gentleman.

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AmherstCane said:
It means that the key to Zo’s success or failure as AD will be his raw intelligence. I believe that aptitude is at least as important as experience. I don’t how HOW smart Zo is. I know he’s smart. But he has to be REALLY smart to successfully make the transition to big time AD… his intelligence has to overcome his inexperience. I have no way of knowing if he is THAT smart.

I hope he is and gets the AD spot. But I have no way of knowing.
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Why do you even question his intellect???

He holds a Bachelor of Business Administration (B.B.A.) with a concentration in Marketing from The []__[], he's
been a V.P. and worked in the NFL front offices for more than 23 years. I don't understand how you could make such a statement.

Gino has a Bachelor's Degree in Business as well but has not been associated with pro sports after playing; yet you don't question his "raw intelligence"?

Furthermore, "REALLY smart" and "raw intelligence" are nebulous and subjective terms individuals might consciously or unconsciously use as proxies for biased beliefs or discriminatory animus.

What are the similarities or dissimilarities of working in an NFL front office, where your primary job is to liaise with athletic departments, and being an athletic director? How inexperienced or uninitiated is he?

If Alonzo has been evaluating the product and seeing the results of collegiate athletic programs and departments across the country for 23 years at the highest level of professional sport, why can't he organize and direct an athletic department that best prepares student-athletes for success in professional sport and life?
 
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Pearson704 said:
Why do you even question his intellect???

He holds a Bachelor of Business Administration (B.B.A.) with a concentration in Marketing from The []__[], he's
been a V.P. and worked in the NFL front offices for more than 23 years. I don't understand how you could make such a statement.

Gino has a Bachelor's Degree in Business as well but has not been associated with pro sports after playing; yet you don't question his "raw intelligence"?

Furthermore, "REALLY smart" and "raw intelligence" are nebulous and subjective terms individuals might consciously or unconsciously use as proxies for bias beliefs or discriminatory animus.

What are the similarities or dissimilarities of working in an NFL front office, where your primary job is to liaise with athletic departments, and being an athletic director? How inexperienced or uninitiated is he?

If Alonzo has been evaluating the product and seeing the results of collegiate athletic programs and departments across the country for 23 years at the highest level of professional sport, why can't he organize and direct an athletic department that best prepares student-athletes for success in professional sport and life?
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Because there are plenty of not-so-smart BBAs and there are plenty of moderately intelligent NFL scouts.

I absolutely question Gino’s raw intelligence - and I probably would prefer Zo to Gino (without having the benefit of a full candidate profile).

I don’t think you comprehend the level of complexity of running a major AD.

Ironic that you’re coming after me… because I have actually posted in support of Zo - and I would probably prefer him to most names that have been floated other than Jurich and maybe Purinton.

But unless you have worked closely with Zo for years or been privy to objective aptitude testing, you don’t have any idea if he can actually run a 100 million+ athletic department managing tv contracts, political lobbying, NIL, teams, fundraising, etc….
 
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