Who's the Best Cane Ever??? (By Position)

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Im in Texas at Ft. Hood Army base, and ran into some Canes Fans... we were debating who the Beat Canes were by position. ..got real Heated...lol... This was my list.... Thoughts???

QB: Ken Dorsey
RB: Edgerrin James
WR: Andre Johnson
TE: Jeremy Shockey
OL: Leon Searcy
DL: Jerome Brown
DT: Warren Sapp
LB: Ray Lewis
CB: Antrell Rolle (he shut down Fitzgerald)
S: Ed Reed (Sean Taylor was a close second)
PK: Jeff Feagles
KR/PR: Devin Hester
 
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NFL careers combined with what they did at the :neonu: included.

QB Bernie Kosar
RB Edgerrin James
WR Michael Irvin
WR Andre Johnson
TE Jeremy Shockey
OL Bryant Mckinnie
DT Warren Sapp
DE Ted Hendricks
LB Ray Lewis
DB Ed Reed
Specialists
Matt Bosher
Devin Hester

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QB Vinnie Testaverde
RB Edgerrin James
WR Michael Irvin
WR Andre Johnson
TE Jeremy Shockey
OL Bryant Mckinnie
DT Jerome Brown
DE Ted Hendricks
LB Ray Lewis
DB Ed Reed

KR Devin Hester
 
DE - Ted Hendricks
FB - Don Bosseler
OL - Jim Otto

Hendricks definitely belongs. Ironically, he's the reason my dad was able to get me to sit still at the games in the late '60s when I was a young kid. I wanted to roam around the Orange Bowl. Dad finally figured out a solution. He tapped me on the shoulder and told me to watch #89 on every play. It seemed like a strange request. I assumed every player was the same.

All of a sudden this #89 was a beast. He was lanky and used every bit of it to his advantage, tossing players aside. His favorite move was to stand up the ball carrier and then rip it away. Normally it was after the whistle but I still loved it.

Dad was so pleased when I looked into his eye in admiration and thanks for what he had pointed out to me. From that point forward I watch at least one specific lineman and not the ball. I can't imagine watching the football at the snap.

Hendricks has to be there at end. I might pick Danny Stubbs for the other end. He was relentless on the pass rush and a nasty attitude.

Defensive tackle is the deepest position. Tough to leave so many guys out. I suppose I would agree with Brown and Sapp although they are very similar...penetrating types. A wide body like Cortez Kennedy could fit alongside either one. But I'll go with Brown and Sapp.

Ray Lewis at middle linebacker and I might go to the early '90s era with both Darrin Smith and Jesse Armstead outside.

Ed Reed is one of the 3 to 5 special players in Canes history. Unbelievable instincts. I try not to participate in the Sean Taylor threads because IMO he was often overhyped based on physical gifts while Reed was everything and beyond. I'd use tough Benny Blades as the strong safety to Reed's free safety.

I'm getting fuzzy at cornerback. Happens more often at this age. Could be forgetting somebody but I'll go with Burgess Owens from the early '70s and Philip Buchanon later. Buchanon is a playmaker. You need that type. Our 2002 team suffered because the forced turnovers were cut in half from 2001. Owens is largely forgotten but he was a tough sticky cornerback on bad teams, and also a great special teamer including kick blocking specialist. Rolle would also be a good choice.

Jim Kelly is the quarterback. I don't have to think long about that. More ability than Kosar.

Nobody will convince me that Ottis Anderson isn't our best back ever, at least to this point. Surreal feet. **** shame he didn't come around a decade later.

Then you have to decide what to do at the other running back position. For pure fullback, I'd identify Alonzo Highsmith. My dad raved about Bosseler and he did have the one old clip in his home movies, of Bosseler's famous long touchdown run in 1956 at Gainesville. I have that posted on YouTube. Not much else to go on. I didn't see Bosseler.

If two pure runners are desired then Edgerrin James probably gets the call due to pass catching ability. Again, this is like defensive tackle in that so many great players have to be left out. James and Anderson are each plenty big enough so one of them could play fullback in a pinch. As a traditionalist I'd take Anderson at halfback and Highsmith at fullback and force the opponent to deal with that. Don't mistake the plodding 1990 version of Ottis Anderson as a Giant for what he was like as a Cane.

Where are we? Tight end, Shockey, even if it was somewhat brief. Great versatility, as demonstrated by lining up in the backfield against Nebraska. I'm trying to forge a swagger team to fit our reputation. Be true to yourself.

At wide out, I'll tab Michael Irvin and Andre Johnson. Sometimes it's very valid to look at what a player did in the pros to break ties and suggest who was truly the superior player earlier.

Offensive line is probably our weakest position overall. Dennis Harrah belongs. He was a taller than average guard. Very tenacious and surprisingly nimble. I saw Otto only with the Raiders but I'll pick him at center. I guess Searcy at right tackle and McKinnie at left tackle. The other guard can be Vernon Carey even though he played right tackle in the NFL. Carey rotated between guard and tackle in college.

Hester is an automatic at kick returner. Feagles at punter, narrowly over Bosher and all his tackles. I'll stick Carlos Huerta in there at placekicker simply because he was a popular and animated player. Besides, he helped win some obscure bets for me when he played in the CFL during the '90s.
 
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Otto was NOT a great college player. He was undersized - 200lb tops and was really all-nothing. His entire rep is built on gaining a lot of weight an being an all-time great AFLer. But, while he was a good college player, he was not an all-time anything in college.

He was however, one of my favorite Canes back in the late 50s.
 
QB- Jim Kelly
RB- Edgerrin James
FB- Alonzo Highsmith
WR's- Michael Irvin, Eddie Brown
MLB- Ray Lewis
OLB- Darrin Smith, Ted Hendricks
CB- Ryan McNeil, Phil Buchanan
DT's- Jerome Brown, Warren Sapp
S's- Bennie Blades, Ed reed
k- Carlos Huerta
KR- Devin Hester
ST- Tremain Mack

Those are the guys that come to mind immediately, the other positions Id have to think about
 
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Im in Texas at Ft. Hood Army base, and ran into some Canes Fans... we were debating who the Beat Canes were by position. ..got real Heated...lol... This was my list.... Thoughts???

QB: Ken Dorsey
RB: Edgerrin James
WR: Andre Johnson
TE: Jeremy Shockey
OL: Leon Searcy
DL: Jerome Brown
DT: Warren Sapp
LB: Ray Lewis
CB: Antrell Rolle (he shut down Fitzgerald)
S: Ed Reed (Sean Taylor was a close second)
PK: Jeff Feagles
KR/PR: Devin Hester

are you younger? i think Randal Hill, Michael Irvin, Kevin Patrick, Michael Barrow, Ryan McNeil, etc can be on that list.
 
QB- Jim Kelly
RB- Edgerrin James
FB- Alonzo Highsmith
WR's- Michael Irvin, Eddie Brown
MLB- Ray Lewis
OLB- Darrin Smith, Ted Hendricks
CB- Ryan McNeil, Phil Buchanan
DT's- Jerome Brown, Warren Sapp
S's- Bennie Blades, Ed reed
k- Carlos Huerta
KR- Devin Hester
ST- Tremain Mack

Those are the guys that come to mind immediately, the other positions Id have to think about

Hendricks did not play OLB in college. DE all the way.
 
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QB: Ken Dorsey/Gino Toretta
RB:Edge/Clinton Portis
FB:Najeh
TE:K2, Bubba Franks
WR:Irvin, Santana Moss, Reggie Wayne, Dre


DE:Calais Campbell, Ted Hendricks
DT: Jerome/ Sapp, Tez
OLB:Barrow, Armstead, Spence, DJ Williams, Perryman, Darrin Smith
MLB:Ray Lewis,, Morgan,Webster,Vilma
CB:Buchanon, Starks, Rolle, Jennings
S: SEAN TAYLOR, E Reed, Meriweather

PR/KR: Hester, Benjamin
 
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Frank Gore before his injury and I'll take Sean Taylor over any safety ever...rest in paradise.


His size, speed and ability to cover ground the way he did couldnt not be touched. When he caught interceptions he was a great running with the ball in his hands always trying to score. I never seen such vicious hits at the safety postion since Ronnie Lott with a lot more speed and size
 
Ray Lewis, Sean Taylor, Jerome Brown,Andre Johnson, and Antrel Rolle are my 5 favs. Its a ton though. I could have a top 20 easily
 
Started going to games as a kid around 81 so I am not familiar with the greats before that...but i really think everyone is discrediting one individual currently on the team- I am going out straight away and saying Randy Johnson, Jr. is the best running back we have ever had. I love the others- but this guy is complete, dangerous, creative, smart, the whole deal.

QB: I'd go with Bernie or Vinny. I loved walsh and dorsey as well, but Bernie and Vinny were nother level, imo. and if I have to pick just one- **** it, I 'm going with Bernie.

RB: Duke

WR: Playmaker

TE: Shockey really was something when he was here.

OL: Mckinne

DT is the hardest position. I felt that Tez and Russell Maryland played more like Jerome than Sapp did. And therefore always appreciated that line collapsing style. Wilfork should be mentioned as well. But when it comes down to it- the legend of our program remains at the top-

DT: Jerome Brown

At DE there are surprisingly not as many dominate forces. Calais, Rusty Medarias were both awesome, but I think I gotta go with -

DE: Daniel Stubbs

LB: Barrow (I'm sure I am getting killed for that but the Ray Lewis and Dan Morgan die hards)

CB: Rolle

Safety: Ed Reed
 
A lot of good choices but Willis McGahee, although it was only one season, was un-****'n-real in '02.



And, Ray Lewis is one of the best LBers ever but if we are strictly talking UM careers, there are a few others that get the nod ahead of him.
 
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