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skeeter said:
Some of that may be Dykes too...Not sure it will be quite so slot heavy with Lashlee, but would welcome it.

Also next year, Yul Brown come on down.

Proche and Roberson were so good for SMU this year, Roberson got hurt last 5-6, but still...He was the deep guy. But catches probably end up 90-70 instead of 110-50 if he played rest of year, but both are excellent, and both will be in the league.
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Ivins Lashlee reached out to Yul. He's that JT type of playmaker we need. Besides a highly ranked QB, I would have Brown at the top of the board.
 
HighSeas said:
Proche is actually good though. Bucs are targeting him.
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We need a slot guy like that. I wonder If we bring perriman back though? He looked good down the stretch of last season. Deep receiver class so we don’t have to reach per say early on .
 
I think there’s a tendency to think of slot receivers as small, quick guys. The NFL is proof that’s not entirely true.

If someone like Wiggins can hang on to the ball he could do some damage from that spot.
 
Umbra said:
We would have finally seen if he was just hype or actually that criminally under-utilized.
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Nah JT would’ve ate, i remember watching him the first time during the UA allstar game and I was like who the **** this kid lol he was balling i was like Miami gotta go get him... months later we got em i was so excited for him sucks his career didn’t go as expected.
 
brock said:
We need a slot guy like that. I wonder If we bring perriman back though? He looked good down the stretch of last season. Deep receiver class so we don’t have to reach per say early on .
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NFL teams would have to **** up big time to not give Perriman an offer the Bucs can't match. Probably half the teams in the league should be trying to get him.

Good receivers will be available in the mid rounds like last year. Getting a 3A or 3B to rotate with Miller is a must cause Watson ain't it. He was like Dee Wiggins with the INTs he caused and big plays he missed. Too unreliable.
 
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HighSeas said:
NFL teams would have to **** up big time to not give Perriman an offer the Bucs can't match. Probably half the teams in the league should be trying to get him.

Good receivers will be available in the mid rounds like last year. Getting a 3A or 3B to rotate with Miller is a must cause Watson ain't it. He was like Dee Wiggins with the INTs he caused and big plays he missed. Too unreliable.
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I dont Even like miller like that. Definitely need somebody behind Evans, Godwin and perriman
 
Hopefully mike Harley have an tommy streeter type of year , have 1 good year at Miami lol
 
The Franchise said:
Pope will go off. Harley is a little limited to me in his smoothness.
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I wanted Pope to go off this past season, but if I remember correctly, he had difficulty learning the playbook which resulted in him not seeing the field a lot. Hopefully, he gets his head in the book and the game.
 
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If it’s not Pope it doesn’t make sense. Pope or Tate Martell (after realizing he’s truly not a QB) then Harley.
 
Cane Fan 4 Life said:
I wanted Pope to go off this past season, but if I remember correctly, he had difficulty learning the playbook which resulted in him not seeing the field a lot. Hopefully, he gets his head in the book and the game.
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That was his freshman year, he started to come on and got hurt the mid part of the season. Still showed progress this year even with his limited opportunities. When he actually got the ball he looked explosive or like he can be somebody. We didn’t get him the ball nearly enough imo. He was literally barely used throughout the year in some games like vs uf. Martell played more than any receiver other than Osborn, Harley and Thomas. Who’s fault is that? Clearly those coaches and not pope.
 
@brock I made this post on 1/3...you may find it helpful when discussing this topic

BoxingRobes said:
Just watched the TCU game and did a statistical deep dive. When Roman and Lance post more in depth film reviews, I'll have watched a few games too to give a more critical eye to what I've seen...but...just for posterity and it'll be interesting by next December to see how accurate I am here.

Distribution of the passing offense at a quick glance.

Slot receiver generates about 36% of the total passing offense. Buy stock in Mike Harley. He's going to eat. Probably a lot. For those of us discussing Tutu Atwell on the Recruiting Board...we'll see if Mike Harley is as good as Tutu, because, this offense is designed for him to eat. Underneath and intermediate routes just feast like Thanksgiving in this offense.

Outside receivers is where the depth comes in...Miami will have to find some wide receivers from now until signing day or focus on moving some guys here. I wouldn't expect much more than the slot to step up as a primary receiver. WR2 (X-WR Roberson) in the SMU offense went for 20% share of the offense in both years but wasn't the feature guy. Dee Wiggins, if he can learn to catch...its a big spot for him to produce in a secondary role and make big plays downfield. Michael Redding, too, could be a player here early. Lots of downfield work for this guy. Rashee Rice was a true freshman that played for SMU last year in place of an injured Reggie Roberson and ended up with a 10% share as a backup to WR2 and finished as WR3 statistically. After that, its interchangeable no matter who plays. A lot of wide receivers comprised of anywhere from 5 to 10 percent of the market and are often used to open someone else up. What does this mean? There aren't many meals to go around for WR3, WR4, and WR5 so I'd focus less on the names involved...they really don't matter (for example, those worried about Pope). Anyone can come in and get 5% of a passing offense, but they need to be team players and run their routes with integrity to make the entire offense even work. This is Sonny Dykes' influence 100%. Its what the Air Raid is all about.

TE in 2017 and 2018 was nearly non-existent. But the inclusion of Rice Transfer Kylen Granson in the 2019 offense led to a surge in production with 18% share of yards and 26% share of touchdowns. I'd expect this to be the general range to expect Brevin Jordan to hit. He was a 15% yards 8% TD player last year (thats not good, even for a TE). The distribution of receptions for a TE ends at your TE1. I'd suggest Mallory learn to catch and focus on playing WR. Other TEs come in and are used to block and get a very small percentage of the offense, but are important for blocking and running routes with integrity. Larry Hodges intrigues me as a TE that will see an increase in snaps.

Running backs run and they block. I wouldn't expect a RB to get more than 10% of the share in the passing offense. What is expected of a RB in this offense, I'm not sure a guy like Lingard would have flourished, since reports on him where that he simply failed to understand the offense and blocking was a problem for him.

In the run game, I expect a full helping for Cam Harris. Expect over 1000 yards, 10+ touchdowns and an All-ACC performance. On a game to game basis, Xavier Jones (an NFL player and shockingly like Cam Harris...maybe after taxes) got 18 carries a game in 2019. If Lashlee runs at volume like he did in 2019 Harris is in for a big, breakout year...he's simply going to eat. RB2 gets about half of the work. There is no reason a freshman like Don Chaney can't come in and produce...but he's got to learn to block, otherwise, I wouldn't be shocked if Robert Burns can come in and eat a few meals...RB2 doesn't do a whole lot. I don't see a player like Jaylen Knighton in his offense the past three years...but Lashlee gets cute A LOT. He's going to be an interesting player to see how they play with him in this offense. But the in-summary is...we probably won't miss Lingard in this offense. If he can't block or understand plays, idk how he would have even played in this offense. I think we'll be fine here.

tl;dr -- Mike Harley is going to ******* EAT. Cam Harris is going to ******* EAT and we won't miss Lingard. X-WR eats in a secondary role, big spot for Dee Wiggins and Michael Redding. The rest of the WR are interchangeable and need to be team players. Brevin Jordan is going to have a pro worthy junior season, but the rest of the TEs need to learn their roles.
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