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poncho0091 said:
I thought it was a well fought game, with tons of mistakes by a young group. Seeing the responses here is sad, and I'd love to just have a nice record of where the negative folks stand so we can revisit at year end and maybe the end of next year. It's game 1. This is not Al Golden obvious poor coaching game 1, this is no OL recruiting leaving the new staff with a hot mess game 1.

If you feel that strongly about the staff, let's get it on record for when you try to jump back on the wagon. I'm sure I'll get the down vote from many, but I'll take those as confirmation of where you stand.
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My season expectation hasn’t changed. 10-2 and we play in Charlotte first week of December. We had a chance to win that game and roll 12-0, but just missed a few opportunities and shot ourselves in the foot one too many times.

It’s never ok to lose to the ****, but there is no reason to panic right now.
 
jkdood said:
I posted a poll and less than 11% of well over 200 responders are taking the loss with doom and gloom, or worse. Some are quite adamant or vocal, but there really doesn't seem to be that "many" jumping off the wagon, in actuality, at CIS, anyway. Maybe "cautious optimism" is the main feeling around?
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I think it is, but the *****ing whiners make the hot take posts, bring the rest of us down, and make this board look like a menstruation convention. The wailing minority seeking attention and hugs make all the noise.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Everyone knows this. This is not some sort of breakthrough you came up with.

That said, I told you a million times that Rich sucks at recruiting the OL. That was always his issue with Georgia. Like I said, Kirby recruited more blue chips in 2 years than Richt did in his entire career at OL.

You kept saying "don't worry Richt will handle it, we don't need blue chips because the scouting services don't know as much as Richt". Look where that left us. With a worse OL than what Golden had.
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Yeahhhh..those are definitely not my quotes.. and the argument about the oline has never been about the guys talent, it was about the guys coaching them. That’s fact dawg.

You know a lot of ppl on this board and in or fan base thought oh if run a spread or different looks or put guys in motion it would help the oline..my concern has always been about the oline since last year. I do think our guys are talented so I’m not knocking the recruiting aspect so much. They are just young and inexperienced. I’ll say this tho, I don’t agree and never did about starting Zion at LT. I like his tools but it’s impossible and unfair to think he is game ready at this stage in his career
 
My *** cheeks are firmly planted on this wagon. With 2 weeks to prepare for the next game, I expect everybody on the team (save maybe Jeff Thomas because he's a head case) to be vastly improved. Jarren is absurdly accurate and as long as dudes can hang on to the ball, we're still looking at a good season
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
So if the whole team is consistently dropping passes you aren't going to blame the WR coach? Having your players mentally prepared is on the coach.
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You're just looking to blame the staff because it's the cool thing to do around here. I must of missed where the whole team muffed a punt. Is it Patke's fault Baxa missed a 20 yard FG?

Punt and kick coverage were good
 
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Our offensive operation was not D1 caliber. Another poster said and I agree, the length of the qb competition took away valuable time for Jarren and the offense to be efficient and cohesive. Just getting the play called, and up to the line of scrimmage with time to take a look at the defense.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Everyone knows this. This is not some sort of breakthrough you came up with.

That said, I told you a million times that Rich sucks at recruiting the OL. That was always his issue with Georgia. Like I said, Kirby recruited more blue chips in 2 years than Richt did in his entire career at OL.

You kept saying "don't worry Richt will handle it, we don't need blue chips because the scouting services don't know as much as Richt". Look where that left us. With a worse OL than what Golden had.
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I don't agree with everything you say but you have been spot on with this for a while. Richt and Searels did a horrendous job recruiting OL that is why I am not going to bash Barry at this point.
 
Canemang said:
You're just looking to blame the staff because it's the cool thing to do around here. I must of missed where the whole team muffed a punt. Is it Patke's fault Baxa missed a 20 yard FG?

Punt and kick coverage were good
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No, I am not blaming the staff because its the "cool thing to do". When your men make simple errors that is on the coach. It is also on the player obviously, but when multiple players make stupid mistakes it is clearly a preparation issue. If you have never worked in any sort of managerial position you wouldn't understand it.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
I didn't mention TK or the portal at all in my post. So I am not sure where you are going with that. I am just saying Richt sucked at building an OL and that rang true eve back in UGA, with the bags. Like I said, Kirby landed more blue chips in 2 years at OL than Richt did in his entire career.
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I was basically agreeing with you on Richt and his misses on the OL. But I just mentioned TK because it seems like even though Richt is gone the OL misses is continuing. I never liked the hiring of Richt to begin with. Too low key for a coach in Miami. Miami is about attitude. JJ had it, Butch had it, Schnellenberger had it and those guys were successful. Erickson had nice teams left to him to coach but he hated recruiting and it ended his career here along with his inability to handle these kids from getting in trouble. Corker, Randy and AG was just down right pathetic.

Manny with time I hope will turn this around with better recruiting. He have a few good looking guys in the fold and working on some top Linemen for 2020. We win they come and hopefully the trench guys get worked out.
 
With the exception of stopping the sacks, staff did at least make adjustments that had us up near the end and in position to win. Little more practice catching frigging punts or letting them go in side the 10 and all would have turned out well. Those repeated procedure penalties where inexcusable but seem to stop or at least slow down. Assuming the gators are a good team, then we look to be on road to playing Clemson for the ACC title again. If they actually suck, well then we are in big trouble.
 
305to954 said:
Yeahhhh..those are definitely not my quotes.. and the argument about the oline has never been about the guys talent, it was about the guys coaching them. That’s fact dawg.

You know a lot of ppl on this board and in or fan base thought oh if run a spread or different looks or put guys in motion it would help the oline..my concern has always been about the oline since last year. I do think our guys are talented so I’m not knocking the recruiting aspect so much. They are just young and inexperienced. I’ll say this tho, I don’t agree and never did about starting Zion at LT. I like his tools but it’s impossible and unfair to think he is game ready at this stage in his career
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I am not going to waste my time digging up your exact quote, but it is essentially what you where saying. You kept saying "blue chips don't matter, Richt will recruit the talented guys". Which is straight BS if you just looked at the OL he drafted in Georgia. I explained this to you and you just said "247 doesn't know what they are talking about".

Our OL is not talented. We do not have a lot of talent on the OL. It is so bad we have a true freshman 2 star as our starting left tackle. That is a talent issue.

I know you have been saying that for a long time. I agreed with you on it. You always where talking about how the OL was trash last year. The part we disagreed was you didn't think Richts OL recruiting was an issue, just developmental, but its clear now that recruiting was also an issue.
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
No, I am not blaming the staff because its the "cool thing to do". When your men make simple errors that is on the coach. It is also on the player obviously, but when multiple players make stupid mistakes it is clearly a preparation issue. If you have never worked in any sort of managerial position you wouldn't understand it.
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The fumbled punt and missed kick are

100% player
0% coach
 
I'll live and die with Miami football. Life long Canes and Dolphins fan.

No questions here.

I'm good with Coach Diaz.

Enos, not so much. I see warning signs, but I'm willing to give him time to make changes.
 
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