Who did you want

Cristobal, that’s the type of coach Miami needed recruiting wise

Cristobal wasn't interested with Diaz was hired. He was one year in at Oregon and there was no way the Ducks were letting him go after they'd just done one year with Willie Lump Lump before he bailed out for Tallahassee.

Mario would've been an option when Richt got the gig late 2015, when he was at Alabama—but at that time Richt was a better on-paper hire as Mario's only HC experience was FIU.

Fact remains there aren't a slew of guys interested in this job and aren't a lot of big named guys available. Look no further than OU turning the keys over to Lincoln Riley or Ohio State giving to an inexperienced Ryan Day the gig when Urban Meyer stepped down—instead of either program going for a big name guy—speaks volumes based on big names available.

Florida State settled on Willie Taggart when Jimbo Fisher took off—aTm WAY overpaying Fisher as they wanted a "big name" guy, who is underachieving thus far—and Florida settled on Dan Mullen; a decent B-level coach but certainly not a home run hire.

LSU stuck with Ed Orgeron, who isn't anything without his assistants. Tennessee has more athletic department money than God—spending $5M annually on recruiting; third in the nation—but keeps whiffing on their guys; Derek Dooley, Butch Jones and now Jeremy Pruitt.


To the original point; if I had my druthers, I would've liked to have seen Butch Davis rehired in 2015 when Richt got the gig. 63 years old at the time, mended fences with UM and went public with the apologies in "The U Part 2"—which came out around then and had him front and center again for the first time in years.

Once Miami passed on Butch then, I was happy with the Diaz hire in 2018. Manny revamped the defense quickly over three years—rebuilding a hot mess that Golden / D'Onofrio left—and that side of the ball looked like old school Miami for a while now.

Any outside hire beyond Diaz—again, who was available and wanted the gig? Can't think of anyone out there who would've been a good fit or worthwhile hire in 2019 as this job simply isn't as desirable as our fans think it is.
 
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Mullen in 2015 was always the right choice.

Mullen is the right choice at Florida. That guy isn't Miami material. He's a geek and a goober. No thanks.

IF that guy ever got the Miami gig, he'd be gone in a few years—whether he succeeded or failed.

Much like Christy Schiano, who hated her time in South Florida with Greg—Megan Mullen didn't even want to got back to Gainesville because of the fan culture there when things backslide a bit on Urban's watch.

That woman wouldn't last two minutes in Coral Gables with this backed up fan base and the anger over 15 years or irrelevancy.
 
Cristobal wasn't interested with Diaz was hired. He was one year in at Oregon and there was no way the Ducks were letting him go after they'd just done one year with Willie Lump Lump before he bailed out for Tallahassee.

Mario would've been an option when Richt got the gig late 2015, when he was at Alabama—but at that time Richt was a better on-paper hire as Mario's only HC experience was FIU.

Fact remains there aren't a slew of guys interested in this job and aren't a lot of big named guys available. Look no further than OU turning the keys over to Lincoln Riley or Ohio State giving to an inexperienced Ryan Day the gig when Urban Meyer stepped down—instead of either program going for a big name guy—speaks volumes based on big names available.

Florida State settled on Willie Taggart when Jimbo Fisher took off—aTm WAY overpaying Fisher as they wanted a "big name" guy, who is underachieving thus far—and Florida settled on Dan Mullen; a decent B-level coach but certainly not a home run hire.

LSU stuck with Ed Orgeron, who isn't anything without his assistants. Tennessee has more athletic department money than God—spending $5M annually on recruiting; third in the nation—but keeps whiffing on their guys; Derek Dooley, Butch Jones and now Jeremy Pruitt.


To the original point; if I had my druthers, I would've liked to have seen Butch Davis rehired in 2015 when Richt got the gig. 63 years old at the time, mended fences with UM and went public with the apologies in "The U Part 2"—which came out around then and had him front and center again for the first time in years.

Once Miami passed on Butch then, I was happy with the Diaz hire in 2018. Manny revamped the defense quickly over three years—rebuilding a hot mess that Golden / D'Onofrio left—and that side of the ball looked like old school Miami for a while now.

Any outside hire beyond Diaz—again, who was available and wanted the gig? Can't think of anyone out there who would've been a good fit or worthwhile hire in 2019 as this job simply isn't as desirable as our fans think it is.
Cristobal was interested
 
I would think many coaches would be interested in this job. Up until the point they heard what they could spend on a staff and that has probably made it's way around the drinking hole.

Anyway. If we were spending money like a top school should. We should have a chance with anyone. That wasn't already sitting at a VIP spot.
 
as head coach that was interested in us? Unlike some I'm willing to give Diaz a fair shot but who did you guys want? Not the pipe dreams like Saban or Meyer but who had GENUINE interest in the job?
this has been brought up a million times now but I will play.

David Clawson, Mike Leach, David Cutcliffe, Tony Elliot, Steve Sarkisian, PJ Fleck, Sean Lewis
 
Mario for sure....but a lot of Miami fans are still butt hurt because he beat feet when he saw the sht show up close and personal.

And how does one know that Mario wasn't interested in the Miami job when Richt was canned, errrr, stepped down.
 
Mullen is the right choice at Florida. That guy isn't Miami material. He's a geek and a goober. No thanks.

IF that guy ever got the Miami gig, he'd be gone in a few years—whether he succeeded or failed.

Much like Christy Schiano, who hated her time in South Florida with Greg—Megan Mullen didn't even want to got back to Gainesville because of the fan culture there when things backslide a bit on Urban's watch.

That woman wouldn't last two minutes in Coral Gables with this backed up fan base and the anger over 15 years or irrelevancy.
This implies he would lose at Miami -- something he's currently not doing at Florida.

Also, you underestimate how starved Miami is for a winner. You may think it's national championship or bust and Mullen isn't capable of that but that's not the reality. We'd be perfectly fine with consistent 9-10 win regular seasons which Mullen would be able to deliver.
 
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as head coach that was interested in us? Unlike some I'm willing to give Diaz a fair shot but who did you guys want? Not the pipe dreams like Saban or Meyer but who had GENUINE interest in the job?
Mario and his recruiting and his ability/connections to actually build a quality staff. versus Diaz and his merry band of GAs and JV coaches.
 
This implies he would lose at Miami -- something he's currently not doing at Florida.

Also, you underestimate how starved Miami is for a winner. You may think it's national championship or bust and Mullen isn't capable of that but that's not the reality. We'd be perfectly fine with consistent 9-10 win regular seasons which Mullen would be able to deliver.


I don’t believe the majority of the people here would be happy with 9-10 wins here for 3-4 years.
 
as head coach that was interested in us? Unlike some I'm willing to give Diaz a fair shot but who did you guys want? Not the pipe dreams like Saban or Meyer but who had GENUINE interest in the job?
whatever dude... lets try dealing with the real world and not hypotheticals! We got Diaz. Now let things play out over a few seasons before we judge...
 
I don’t believe the majority of the people here would be happy with 9-10 wins here for 3-4 years.
Speak for yourself and not others. Would you be happy with finally being consistent and making it to the ACCCG 2 every 3 years? If the answer is no then work on building a time machine because the days of the 80's are over and that's about the best we can hope for.
 
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I wanted Matt Campbell this past go around and Herman before that.

The hiring of guys who have already coached, coaching now, played at Miami or from Miami. I am not a fan of in any way.

In saying that. You just can't pay for one guy. You got to pony up for a complete staff. So maybe that is why we got Manny and no search was done.
 
Sell me on why Cristobal was a better option than Diaz, besides the fact that he's a good recruiter (with bags behind him).
-Would have immediately fixed the oline and they would play with nasty and toughness that we haven’t seen in years.

- Miami would have been able to recruit at an elite level in state and out of state

-Miami would have been running a spread offense

- Cristobal would have put together a better coaching staff
 
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