Whisky - Michigan

Jim Harbaugh is such an overrated coach.

He might be no better than 5th best coach in the B1G.
Won at SD, turned Stanford into the best Pac12 team, made SF good right away, got an NFL team to a SB, winning games at Michigan just not big. I think the best idea is to stick with him and keep getting great assistants, it'll work out eventually.
 
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I really hope they can pitch the shutout. Not even a field goal. And you’ll need to bump Wisconsin up to 8 after this.
 

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Had multiple porsters try to argue with me that Harbaugh is totally safe. No way he's still there in 2021, at this rate maybe he gets canned sooner.

He might be too big to outright fire.

But that seat is going to be scorching hot after he takes a big L to Ryan Day.

Ryan Day, Paul Chryst, James Franklin...all superior coaches in the B1G. Pat Fitzgerald and Kirk Ferentz do more with less.

I don't want to namedrop Scott Frost yet...but what he did at UCF was incredibly impressive. I think he can get Nebraska to the level Harbaugh has Michigan right now...so would that put him ahead of Harbaugh...I'd think yes.

Jim Harbaugh has given Michigan Bo Pelini type results...and he is one of the highest paid coaches per win in all of college football (think only Jimbo and Malzahn make more per win...one of those guys has a national championship as HC and the other as the defacto HC as the OC FWIW).

Yeah, I know he's a "good coach" but he's incredibly overrated.
 
Wisc is what you get when a team plays to their advantage. Regionally, they produce some of the best OL in the country. They run the ball, work the clock, and play disciplined.

Really shocked Don Brown's D is getting its sh*t pushed like this. I'm not sure if the midwest producing the type of speed Don Brown needs for that D to be elite. Would LOVE to see him here working with SFLA athletes (I can dream right)
If I'm not mistaken, Uche from Columbus and the LB from Flanagan start on Brown's defense. And I don't think it's an athlete problem; looks to be moreso inexperience.
 
Won at SD, turned Stanford into the best Pac12 team, made SF good right away, got an NFL team to a SB, winning games at Michigan just not big. I think the best idea is to stick with him and keep getting great assistants, it'll work out eventually.
If this was Miami and the team had so little depth at running back and such mediocre qb’s after 5 years in the tenure of a coach making 5 mil+ per year we would all be up in arms and demanding his firing.
 
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Paul Chryst is one of the top 5 best coaches in the business.

Michigan has the supposed to be the best DC in college football in Don Brown, an above 50% Blue Chip ratio, a roster full of future NFL players & Wisconsin is taking them behind the woodshed with an old faishoned *** whooping.

Wisconsin wins because they're so extremely well coached & disciplined that if you don't show up 100% prepared you're going to get the sh*t beat out of you, because they don't beat themselves by playing smart mistake free football.

Harbaugh is just highly overrated, he's a great recruiter, but his record vs ranked opponents since being at Mich is well below .500 & his record vs B1G rivals is something like 2-7 in 4 years (never beat Oh St & only beat Mich St once) & as a game day coach always folds up vs equal level talent teams.

People gave him waaaaayyyy too much credit for his Stanford tenure, he was only 29-21 at Stanford & people accredit him as building their program, but people forget Stanford was good even back during the Bill Walsh era & made a return to prominence under Tyrone Willingham. David Shaw has had more success at Stanford than Harbaugh had, he's 83-28 as a HC with 3 Pac-12 championships & 5 division titles, all while handing out the least amount offers of any D-1 program & still sends high caliber players to the NFL on an annual basis.
 
If this was Miami and the team had so little depth at running back and such mediocre qb’s after 5 years in the tenure of a coach making 5 mil+ per year we would all be up in arms and demanding his firing.
Probably, but they are Michigan and have won 10 games 3 out of 4 seasons he's completed. He's good for them.
 
Their OL is great but Jim Leonhard their DC is a badass coach who studied under Aranda before Aranda went to LSU (good pro for his size, too). And dont kid yourself they have athletes on their team.


Not even trying to be funny but I knew he'd be a great coach as the unathletic but productive white safety so he had to be incredibly smart
 
Paul Chryst is one of the top 5 best coaches in the business.

Michigan has the supposed to be the best DC in college football in Don Brown, an above 50% Blue Chip ratio, a roster full of future NFL players & Wisconsin is taking them behind the woodshed with an old faishoned *** whooping.

I like Don Brown. I do.

However...

Devin Bush Jr. and Jabrill Peppers covered up a lot of ****** defensive play and calls. Those players basically freelanced the weakside for years, allowing Brown to stack sides.

They no longer have a Devin Bush Jr. or Jabrill Peppers.

This is the result.
 
Their OL is great but Jim Leonhard their DC is a badass coach who studied under Aranda before Aranda went to LSU (good pro for his size, too). And dont kid yourself they have athletes on their team.


Dont disagree, just adding that player development is really their forte rather than athlete scouting. They'll turn walk-on high school quarterbacks into All Big Ten Linebackers, CMU TE transfers into JJ Watt, etc.

They mix in the occasional athlete from SoFla like James White, Sojourn Shelton, and have enough cornfed ****ers on that oline, and boom, recipe for competitiveness.
 
I will always enjoy seeing Meatchicken catch a prison rape (except when OSU is doing it). Looks like the maize and blue is going to need to buy an extra large quantity of KY this season.
 
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"Overrated" is a dumb chant. Basically saying your team whipping the other team is doing nothing special. Better to chant underrated.
 
He's a dream come true for Ohio State. A coach that will keep Michigan mediocre for a decade or more.
10-3 is close. To me that means shake some things up a bit, figure out recruiting, figure out your assistants, maybe figure out QB and you maybe win 2 more games a season & upset Ohio State.
 
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