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A lot of the Harbaugh mystique is based off the NFL where had a stacked veteran 49ers team with elite coordinators in Greg Roman and Vic Fangio.

Yeah he turned around Stanford but that coincided with a declining Pac-10 outside of Oregon. Miami is an easier job but if it takes Diaz 4 years to get Miami to 12-1 that would hardly be a legendary coaching achievement. Conference strength and schedule matter, and beating good (top-15) teams is what separates the great coaches from the good.
 
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Dude said:
Probably, but they are Michigan and have won 10 games 3 out of 4 seasons he's completed. He's good for them.
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Michigan has lost 3 games every year and 5 games 2 years ago. He has NEVER beaten OSU. If they lost to OSU this year Harbaugh is gone and should be. He is to UM what John Cooper was to OSU. Win 9-10 games every year, never beat your rival, put a lot of guys in the league and never compete for a national title. At 5 mil+ that’s not good enough.
 
Ash Joshi said:
Michigan has lost 3 games every year and 5 games 2 years ago. He has NEVER beaten OSU. If they lost to OSU this year Harbaugh is gone and should be. He is to UM what John Cooper was to OSU. Win 9-10 games every year, never beat your rival, put a lot of guys in the league and never compete for a national title. At 5 mil+ that’s not good enough.
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Don't sweat it, mack. Mighty Ohio St. will definitely BEAT Michigan this season! Guarantee it. And Harbaugh's squad will lose to another conference squad too. So there's your nine wins during the regular season.
 
Ash Joshi said:
Michigan has lost 3 games every year and 5 games 2 years ago. He has NEVER beaten OSU. If they lost to OSU this year Harbaugh is gone and should be. He is to UM what John Cooper was to OSU. Win 9-10 games every year, never beat your rival, put a lot of guys in the league and never compete for a national title. At 5 mil+ that’s not good enough.
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I think you can move on from Harbaugh, but you better make sure the next guy is of Meyer quality. I'd say they are 90% likely to get a guy like Will Muschamp and be a consistent 1 game worse than Harbaugh.
 
HighSeas said:
A lot of the Harbaugh mystique is based off the NFL where had a stacked veteran 49ers team with elite coordinators in Greg Roman and Vic Fangio.

Yeah he turned around Stanford but that coincided with a declining Pac-10 outside of Oregon. Miami is an easier job but if it takes Diaz 4 years to get Miami to 12-1 that would hardly be a legendary coaching achievement. Conference strength and schedule matter, and beating good (top-15) teams is what separates the great coaches from the good.
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USC was still top dawg in the PAC10 when Harbaugh took over Stanford. Harbaugh beating Carroll as a 41-point road underdog was one of the greatest upsets in CFB history.

I think Harbaugh is overrated but I’m not going to take anything away from what he accomplished at Stanford. He hasn’t had an elite team in Ann Arbor because he hasn’t been able to recruit an elite QB.
 
Another one to add to the Jim FRAUDbaugh resume

Good lord has that dude been a disaster that really gets amplified by his salary
 
Dude said:
I think you can move on from Harbaugh, but you better make sure the next guy is of Meyer quality. I'd say they are 90% likely to get a guy like Will Muschamp and be a consistent 1 game worse than Harbaugh.
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Who exactly would be Meyer quality, except Meyer?
 
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Poptimus said:
Michigan being vastly overrated and losing to a team when they’re an underdog? SHOCKING.
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Michigan was ONLY a - 3 1/2 road dog. And if U's listen to the majority of CFB analyst earlier, they opined that Michigan would make it a COMPETITIVE, TOUGH game for Wisconsin. Go figure. So yes, it is shocking to see Harbaugh's squad get BYTCHED SLAPPED!

Oh. And one more notion. Wisconsin was without RB Taylor for the most of the third-quarter and second-half.
 
mackjones said:
Michigan was ONLY a - 3 1/2 road dog. And if U's listen to the majority of CFB analyst earlier, they opined that Michigan would make it a COMPETITIVE, TOUGH game for Wisconsin. Go figure. So yes, it is shocking to see Harbaugh's squad get BYTCHED SLAPPED!

Oh. And one more notion. Wisconsin was without RB Taylor for the most of the third-quarter and second-half.
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Oh I agree, I never expected them to be destroyed like this, but they are a soft, slow team year-in, year-out. And I have about 5 family members who went to Michigan or are still at Michigan and I love seeing this because they think that soft *** team is God's gift to football.
 
Dude said:
Idk, thats why I'd be suspect about making a change.
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If I were to make a change I would look for a young coach who has done more with less, like Matt Campbell at Iowa State. He won in the MAC, and has done well at Iowa State. In 2017 he beat Oklahoma in Norman and TCU in Ames, IA when both were ranked in the Top 5. I think they were consecutive games. I’m not advocating for him specifically, but he’s one example.

There’s also HCs with longer resumes, but why would they leave for Miami?

There’s also OCs and DCs from top programs. The risk is they have no experience as a HC.
 
Wisconsin HC Paul Chryst’s salary for 2019 is $4.15M. He is ninth-highest in that conference.
 
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TemplarCane said:
USC was still top dawg in the PAC10 when Harbaugh took over Stanford. Harbaugh beating Carroll as a 41-point road underdog was one of the greatest upsets in CFB history.

I think Harbaugh is overrated but I’m not going to take anything away from what he accomplished at Stanford. He hasn’t had an elite team in Ann Arbor because he hasn’t been able to recruit an elite QB.
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USC was unranked when Stanford beat them in Harbaugh's last year.

Harbaugh's Michigan offenses don't help the QB regardless of who it is. When your passing game relies on vertical isolation routes it's gonna be a challenge to complete passes with any consistency. JT Barrett didn't even get a sniff from the NFL but Meyer won big with him at OSU because their pass game was fused with the run game and they defined easy throws for him. Shea Patterson is much more talented.
 
HighSeas said:
USC was unranked when Stanford beat them in Harbaugh's last year.

Harbaugh's Michigan offenses don't help the QB regardless of who it is. When your passing game relies on vertical isolation routes it's gonna be a challenge to complete passes with any consistency. JT Barrett didn't even get a sniff from the NFL but Meyer won big with him at OSU because their pass game was fused with the run game and they defined easy throws for him. Shea Patterson is much more talented.
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USC was 11th ranked when Stanford won at LA 55-21. The Trojans finished 9-4 and 20/22, depending on which poll. Carroll’s final season.

Harbaugh does need to hire an OC with a more college-friendly offense, you’re right. Maybe the guy they hired from Bama will help.
 
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