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While we wait for the CFP to ***** us and are reeling from our annual ACC ********, what are our thoughts on going independent again...?

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I'm sure this has been discussed ad nauseam in the past, but let's throw a fresh coat of paint on her.

Is going independent even remotely possible? If we just loaded up on cupcakes, and maybe ND, is it just too impractical to go independent? Would we be able to negotiate enough TV revenue? I mean, we wouldn't have to share it with other teams - all TV revenue would be ours to keep and if we played a g5/B12ish schedule and were undefeated, wouldn't we pretty much get in most years and be able to keep all of that playoff revenue?

I'm just done with the ACC not getting what they have in us and treating us terribly, coupled with the fact that I think they need to give ND the boot in all sports since they'll never join the ACC as a FB member.

I'm sure it's the anger coming from a 7-5 team with the same conference record getting the nod for the conference championship, but what do you guys think? Is independence even an option?
 
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As I mentioned in another post I would be the worst conference partner ever. Send walk ons up to ACC media days before the season. Do everything possible to avoid doing media for the ACC. Absolutely refuse to promote their social or tv media. Do nothing but alternative media groups Pate, radio, tv, and openly mock the ACC. Win the whole thing and then walk off the podium in Charlotte while they’re trying to give you the trophy. Make it like hockey conference finals where they don’t touch the trophy out of superstition. Maybe they’ll ask us to leave the conference.
 
PennsylvaniaCane said:
As I mentioned in another post I would be the worst conference partner ever. Send walk ons up to ACC media days before the season. Do everything possible to avoid doing media for the ACC. Absolutely refuse to promote their social or tv media. Do nothing but alternative media groups Pate, radio, tv, and openly mock the ACC. Win the whole thing and then walk off the podium in Charlotte while they’re trying to give you the trophy. Make it like hockey conference finals where they don’t touch the trophy out of superstition. Maybe they’ll ask us to leave the conference.
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I would say we could sue due to incompetent leadership cheating us out of millions of dollars but we were dumb enough to vote for expansion so we booked a few more nights at this Motel 6 conference
 
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Garnacho said:
ACC needs to give ND the boot if they won’t join. Problem solved. Leaving the ACC probably isn’t realistic but the ACC can do something about the ND agreement.
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If Duke wins Saturday we get closer to implosion. What a complete ****show it would be for every team in this conference if 7-5 Duke were crowned. I hope Duke pulls it off. I want utter madness. Ironically, it might be our best shot in as long as Duke wins and ranks beneath the AAC.
 
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I'd be happy for it to work. Lord knows I've suffered enough watching Lacrosse schools beat UM at noon on ESPN3.

A few challenges stick out:

We would need a TV deal to justify the exit (like NBC and ND). The market seems over saturated as it is, and its not clear what extra sizzle UM would bring. This leads to the next point, regarding the potential customer base for such a TV deal.

We don't have the slavish devotion of generations of former altar boys and cirrhosis-ridden Micks like the Domers do.

We don't have a favorable social/political immune system like schools in the deep South or the child r@pe factory in Pennsylvania. That sort of ecosystem acts like an important buffer to protect schools when a conference will not. In its place, we actually have a viper's den of self-interested chodes like Le Batard and Luther Campbell who would sell their own grandmothers into Chechnyan human trafficking for a cover article in the Miami New Times.

Regardless---and this is probably the most crucial, fundamental challenge---such a move would require a degree of competence, coordination, and organization that does not exist at UM (really, in the entire state of Florida).
 
OK. so how about the B12? We go to them and say we'll come and further legitimize this mickey mouse operation, but we want a commensurate percentage of the TV earnings - in other words, if we have more eyeballs (and we would) we get paid more money.

Up until this season, I wasn't really open to the B12, but now, with them getting in at least one if not two teams, and in the absence of an invite to the SEC/B10, I say let's negotiate something better and get the **** out of this terribly run conference.
 
filmcane said:
I'm sure this has been discussed ad nauseam in the past, but let's throw a fresh coat of paint on her.

Is going independent even remotely possible? If we just loaded up on cupcakes, and maybe ND, is it just too impractical to go independent? Would we be able to negotiate enough TV revenue? I mean, we wouldn't have to share it with other teams - all TV revenue would be ours to keep and if we played a g5/B12ish schedule and were undefeated, wouldn't we pretty much get in most years and be able to keep all of that playoff revenue?

I'm just done with the ACC not getting what they have in us and treating us terribly, coupled with the fact that I think they need to give ND the boot in all sports since they'll never join the ACC as a FB member.

I'm sure it's the anger coming from a 7-5 team with the same conference record getting the nod for the conference championship, but what do you guys think? Is independence even an option?
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Nostalgic & wonderful idea, though has about the same likelihood of an on-campus stadium. First, it would require lengthy legal maneuvering & a ridiculous amount of money to get free of the ACC. Then, you’re gonna need some super smart, creative people to determine the path to selling broadcast rights. This media/streaming world is changing every day. Scheduling could be a crazy issue. SEC & Big Ten probably want to freeze you out & ACC wouldn’t deal with you. Not just football scheduling but all your other sports would be a major nightmare.
Having said this, the ACC is a **** show & an alternative should be seriously pursued. The good news is Mario has made football relevant & the brand still means something, So if the big two expand or super conferences come about we won’t be left out.
 
Fart Keyhole said:
I'd be happy for it to work. Lord knows I've suffered enough watching Lacrosse schools beat UM at noon on ESPN3.

A few challenges stick out:

…chodes like Le Batard and Luther Campbell who would sell their own grandmothers into Chechnyan human trafficking…
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I had to look it up…
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Props for appropriate usage…
 
Yoyo423 said:
With 9 conference games for the:
ACC
B1G
SEC
B12
getting a full schedule of decent games will be tough as an independent.

I think it's going to end up forcing NDs hand here in the next decade or so.
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ND will remain Indy as long as they can keep getting their own TV deal. The ACC
Is not going to throw them out, and they clearly have a path of the CFP. It’s nice to say all the confernces should band together to keep Notre Dame out, but that’s not happening either.They don’t have any incentive to join a conference.
 
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Who would schedule Miami out of conference?

We are entering the realm of all in conference seasons by the Power 2. What would our schedule even look like? Our SOS would be trash.
 
Fart Keyhole said:
I'd be happy for it to work. Lord knows I've suffered enough watching Lacrosse schools beat UM at noon on ESPN3.

A few challenges stick out:

We would need a TV deal to justify the exit (like NBC and ND). The market seems over saturated as it is, and its not clear what extra sizzle UM would bring. This leads to the next point, regarding the potential customer base for such a TV deal.

We don't have the slavish devotion of generations of former altar boys and cirrhosis-ridden Micks like the Domers do.

We don't have a favorable social/political immune system like schools in the deep South or the child r@pe factory in Pennsylvania. That sort of ecosystem acts like an important buffer to protect schools when a conference will not. In its place, we actually have a viper's den of self-interested chodes like Le Batard and Luther Campbell who would sell their own grandmothers into Chechnyan human trafficking for a cover article in the Miami New Times.

Regardless---and this is probably the most crucial, fundamental challenge---such a move would require a degree of competence, coordination, and organization that does not exist at UM (really, in the entire state of Florida).
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Hard hitting and 💯 accurate
Great post!!!
 
NO.

Much as I enjoyed that time period in the 1980s, the entire sport has changed and there is no way to be an Independent any longer, unless you are Notre Dame.

**** NO.
 
filmcane said:
OK. so how about the B12? We go to them and say we'll come and further legitimize this mickey mouse operation, but we want a commensurate percentage of the TV earnings - in other words, if we have more eyeballs (and we would) we get paid more money.

Up until this season, I wasn't really open to the B12, but now, with them getting in at least one if not two teams, and in the absence of an invite to the SEC/B10, I say let's negotiate something better and get the **** out of this terribly run conference.
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The Big 12 may be less incompetent in leadership, but it’s still viewed as just as much of a second rate conference as the ACC. BYU is 11-1 and the country has pretty much decided if they lose their conference championship game they’re not making the playoff.

Every resource imaginable needs to be put towards getting into one of the P2 conferences.
 
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