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When you guys watched Mendoza, did you really think "Oh, yeah, this guy should be the #1 overall pick in the draft!!!!"

Hoyacane1620 said:
your point is? No way you are comparing Mendoza to either Newton or Burrow.....
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The point is that it’s extremely difficult and rare to do what Mendoza did last season. He won everything. The hatred is mostly sour grapes and people upset about how wrong they were.

I don't know how his pro career will go because a lot depends on environment. But I'd be surprised if he's not a longtime starter.
 
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DMoney said:
The point is that it’s extremely difficult and rare to do what Mendoza did last season. He won everything. The hatred is mostly sour grapes and people upset about how wrong they were.

I don't know how his pro career will go because a lot depends on environment. But I'd be surprised if he's not a longtime starter.
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Mendoza has the "IT" factor more than I thought he had while at Cal. His competitive drive and cerebral awareness are top notch. His back shoulder throws are as impressive as any QB I've seen and that is an NFL staple.

He proved me wrong because I wasn't that high on him at Cal, but what he did at Indiana was incredible. He executes with surgical precision. Being on the Raiders might be the only reason he doesn't succeed right away, but if Shough can do well in his first season with the Saints, I'm sure Mendoza can too
 
Mendoza is likely the best QB in this drat, which by default makes him the overall #1 pick because of the importance at the position.

Not every #1 pick will be equal just as the #1 high school player every year is not equal.

I always use the NBA draft to make this point. One year Shaq is the #1 pick. Another year it is Joe Smith, who was the best college player in that draft.
 
DMoney said:
The point is that it’s extremely difficult and rare to do what Mendoza did last season. He won everything. The hatred is mostly sour grapes and people upset about how wrong they were.

I don't know how his pro career will go because a lot depends on environment. But I'd be surprised if he's not a longtime starter.
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For clarity...

If someone says Fernando locks on the first read, drops his eyes with pressure and wasn't asked to do as much as Ty Simpson, or his NFL comp is Bryce Young; is that what you would consider "hatred" or "sour grapes"?
 
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Pearson704 said:
If I say he locks on the first read, drops his eyes with pressure and wasn't asked to do as much as Ty Simpson, or his NFL comp is Bryce Young; is that what you would consider hatred?
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No. I think it's a strange comp, though. Mendoza is huge and Young is small.
 
Pearson704 said:
From an IQ/play-style standpoint...

"Mendoza’s high IQ play immediately puts him in the ballpark with quarterbacks like Bryce Young and Andrew Luck."

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I can reassure you that Bryce Young does not play with high IQ.

He loves a panicky checkdown at the first sign of his first read being remotely covered though.
 
filmcane said:
I didn't. I mean, he's gutsy, but I thought he was good-ish and gutsy. I would be ****ED if my team wasted a #1 overall pick on him. Not trying to be sour grapes and congrats to him on his natty, but meh. He didn't seem elite to me.
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Did you say that when Cam was at Washington State? Come on dude. A lot changes in a year.
 
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Dwinstitles said:
If Mario wanted TS that bad it tells you what we saw on tape is legit. That LSU QB was a settle type QB we had no other options, then boom we get Mensah even better.
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They had a terrible offensive line. So did Texas — and that’s when i started to realize how legit Arch Manning was. Through the first half of the season, Arch was leading their team in passing and rushing yards. He still finished second on the year and had the most touchdowns.


Playing quarterback when your team cannot run the ball is like a gang-jumping-initiation.

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If you’re lucky, your line is a bit better pass-blocking and maybe certain extra protection with TEs and RBs can help; however, especially when you’re behind and have to throw it in order to move the chains, you’re going to face beasts feasting on your bodyguards.

Ty Simpson didn’t have much help upfront and had to improvise constantly. The wide receivers were really good; still, people didn’t catch Simpson slipping so much as they were shredding the pocket before it could even be formed.

Now, we saw Mendoza work with a lesser supporting cast around him last year (Cal Berkeley) and I believe he is tough and smart enough to figure out how to succeed as a starter. He’ll never be a top ten physical talent at the position however he doesn’t need to be to win.
 
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