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jjm305 said:
I hear all the time how rivals ranks kids according to whose recruiting them. Maybe those kids that where 4 and 5 stars at Texas where only ranked that high because they where being recruited by Texas.
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Do you think Texas was the only team recruiting those kids?
 
Dingaan1828 said:
jjm305 said:
I hear all the time how rivals ranks kids according to whose recruiting them. Maybe those kids that where 4 and 5 stars at Texas where only ranked that high because they where being recruited by Texas.
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Do you think Texas was the only team recruiting those kids?
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It must be. There is no way our shiny new toy and his wretched defenses at UT were his fault. It was his mean DB coaches fault, and the State of Texas' fault for having such bad children.
 
407cane said:
I think what's lost at Texas is the most obvious thing of all. Mack brown hired greg robinson to "oversee" the defensive side and advise diaz because before the season ever started the hot seat was burning and he knew he'd have to make a change to save his job. after the disaster against byu, mack made the change (which was probably already promised to robinson).

I'm concerned with how he's done against elite offenses but it makes me happy when I realize we don't play any elite offenses. There will be no Oklahoma's or Baylor's on our schedule every year (teams with typically top ten offenses that he was known for struggling against). .

Football Outsiders has him at 19th in passing efficiency this year which is very promising considering now he'll have coach kool manning the pass rush.

some expecting a "home run hire" might be disappointed however I don't think the hiring of coach kuligowski can be brought up enough. When Diaz was most successful he ran a 2 read system that relied heavily on the safeties picking up the slack on zone blitzes. If the line couldn't rush effectively he ran into issues. I think Richt sees how well coach Kool and diaz can work together effectively to make sure this is successful. I will concede to the notion that we must get a proven db coach with Diaz as it's been a weakness of his defense in the past.

after looking up everything I could find on the guy, he seemed to be more successful while running a conservative scheme at LA Tech. I fully expect our defense to be aggressive here however, with a vastly improved d line front, it seems like he''ll be able to trust a 4 man effective rush under coach kool more often than having to blitz 5 or 6 consistently. This will allow him to achieve the same level of success without as much risk.

The man also has consistently turned every program around defensively starting year one and has a history of forced turnover success. His third down defense (ranking 37th last year) and red zone Defense being in the top 10 nationally have me very excited. I think his numbers would have been better to look at on paper had Miss State not run such a fast paced offense and controlled the clock a little better

NCAAF Football - Defensive Rankings & Statistics - January, 2016 | Odds Shark
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here Miss St. is ranked 36th in adjusted Defensive statistics. Not "elite" but no pushover in the SEC against some legit teams (cam cameron lane kiffen etc calling plays against) all while being in the SEC west of all divisions and consistently over matched in athletes

also a good indicator of how they played --> cfbstats.com - 2015 Mississippi State Bulldogs

some points:
1)Opponents pts/game :23.2
2)redzone defense top 10 in the nation and 20% better than d'onofrio and co.
3)rush yard per play a whole yard less than where we were currently sitting with D'onofrio and with lesser athletes
4)third down defense : opponents converted 35% of the time, slightly better than our 39% under no d.

Also I know this thread is about Diaz but Kool plays a heavy role in Diaz success here so I want to throw some stuff out there that might encourage some people who are worried.

This metric is strictly on D line FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2015 NCAA DEFENSIVE LINE STATS

with no seniors, Coach Kool's mizzou line ranked:

Adjusted Line Yards: One of only two opponent-adjusted numbers on the page, this aligns with the ALY figure FO tracks for the NFL and is presented on a scale in which 100.0 is perfectly average, above 100 is good, below 100 is bad. RANK 28

Standard Downs Line Yards per Carry: The raw, unadjusted per-carry line yardage for a team on standard downs (first down, second-and-7 or fewer, third-and-4 or fewer, fourth-and-4 or fewer). RANK 31

Passing Downs Line Yards per Carry: The same unadjusted averages for rushing on passing downs. RANK 8

Opportunity Rate: The percentage of carries (when five yards are available) that gain at least five yards, i.e. the percentage of carries in which the line does its job, so to speak. RANK 13

Power Success Rate: This is the same as on the pro side -- percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown. RANK 51

Stuff Rate: Same as STUFFED on the pro side -- percentage of carries by running backs that are stopped at or before the line of scrimmage. RANK 6
^the most important one imo because it creates third and longs and plays hand in hand with a #2 rank nationally in TFL


Mizzou's Defensive line, led by Josh Augusta, is causing havoc - Rock M Nation



long story short, I have my reservations about the guy. Personally wanted Aranda, however can't blame the admin for how much $$ LSU threw at the guy. We wanted an attacking 4-3 coach and we got it. He's had great success and also some failure. With the right coaching staff in place to assist him (kool and a solid DB coach), better athletes, better time of possession on offense, and a weaker division I see no reason why he can't be successful here.


also something that i'm not sure has been brought up but Richt has no problem firing coordinators when necessary in his past. If diaz can't cut it he'll be gone we can be assured of that. Then maybe kool will get the chance to take over the defense
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Wow a fair evaluation by a level minded poster... impressed!
 
Dingaan1828 said:
MiamiJoe said:
The talent level had dropped in 2013 when he was fired as Texas had ZERO players drafted in 2014 draft lending credence to the fact that their talent level had dropped.
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Was it really a lack of talent? That's a serious question, as I don't watch Texas much and I'm not familiar with their players.

From 2009 through 2012 Texas signed 8 five stars and 60 four stars. According to Rivals, they were ranked 5, 3, 3, and 2 in those four years. Texas defense flopped in 2012, and Diaz was fired two games into 2013. So, I'm honestly puzzled how they ended up with a lack of talent.
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talent coming in is an estimate... talent leaving is accurate.
 
So Diaz need Coach Kool to be good huh? Why not just make Kool the DC then, and hire a qualified LB coach?
 
Consigliere said:
Dirty Sprite said:
Consigliere said:
Dirty Sprite said:
What's lost is that Mack Brown started sucking as a the head of a CFB program.
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One broken record. Anything to defend that abortion Strong.

Remember when UT won 8-9 games per season, it wasn't under Strong.
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Lol y'all are some clowns... Anything to defend Charlie Strong?? I dont have to defend him I'm not a Texas fan like most of you all seem to be. And second he was hired to replace Mack Brown. I remember when 8-9 wins was the reason Mck got fired I don't think the fans or the ones running the show were jumping up for joy at the fact that Mack was getting out classed on the football field by teams they use to dominate in that conference.

Why do I need to defend a HC whose not my HC? That has won BCS titles by beating SEC schools, has dominated Miami, has beaten Oklahoma and Baylor a s underdogs with a young inexperienced roster?

My point is about the DC Manny Diaz, the HC runs the show if ur HC us lacking everything else will too, and Mack was doing more than that that's why Texas fired him... Now are u mad at me for that lol.
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I don't understand your obession. Look at you defend him in this abortion porst.

Beat OU congrats, remember when he got shutout and buttraped by Iowa State.

Beat Baylor with no QB, remember his two straight losing seasons. When was the last time that happened at UT?

Strong is atrocious and you attempt to defend him in this porst above.

Diaz performed so-so because he was a so-so DC.
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Whats your obsession with being one of the biggest douche bags on this site? Do you know how FN hard that is as well? I mean really your a total SOB *** guzzler. Almost every FN thread your bashing some dude. Why dont you grow up and try being a man for a change or just STFU?
 
numbers said:
Rinse, wash, repeat. The Texas results don't match the desired narrative so the masses are trying to come up with explanations to discount it and wash it away. "Diaz didn't have talent at Texas, they were headed downhill." And then immediately contradict themselves by pointing out how well he did as Miss St with no talent.

Truth is no one ******* knows. Diaz isn't as popular a hire as some of the other assistants, for good reason. His defenses have struggled against good teams at every stop. If things go well, he'll have access to more talent than he's ever coached. We will find out over the next three years whether he's good, bad, or mediocre.
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We will know in the 1st year. How he adjusts and if he does at all will determine how long he stays.
 
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FullyERicht said:
So Diaz need Coach Kool to be good huh? Why not just make Kool the DC then, and hire a qualified LB coach?
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Maybe you should tell Richt about how is failed at his job? Maybe he will start reaching out to you for help in the future? Oh wait... maybe you its you that just doesn't get it, I know that a serious stretch a wannabe butt hurt porster vs. one of the most successful SEC coaches ever who does get it. Maybe... just maybe...

Or maybe you should just up those Schizo meds.
 
clg003 said:
FullyERicht said:
So Diaz need Coach Kool to be good huh? Why not just make Kool the DC then, and hire a qualified LB coach?
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Maybe you should tell Richt about how is failed at his job? Maybe he will start reaching out to you for help in the future? Oh wait... maybe you its you that just doesn't get it, I know that a serious stretch a wannabe butt hurt porster vs. one of the most successful SEC coaches ever who does get it. Maybe... just maybe...

Or maybe you should just up those Schizo meds.
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Can you make a post without attacking another poster? Are you capable of that?
 
I don't understand how one could excuse Diaz failures at Texas due to the country club atmosphere Mack Brown had going on, and at the same time condemn Charlie Strong for his failures in cleaning up that program like so many did during the coaching search.
 
clg is EXTRA rustled. I have microaggressed against him, and harmed his safe zone. He is complaining to the PC police as we speak, that I am saying truthful facts about the career of our new DC, bc those facts happen to make him look like a questionable hire.

Nobody is allowed to say anything factual that might paint a Miami coach in a bad light, and if they do, it's a personal insult. Typical millennial who doesn't understand that free speech means having to hear things that might make you feel uncomfortable.
 
Charlie strong sucks because he sucks...I don't see any one trashing Willie taggert, Dino babers, or Kevin sumlin
 
clg003 said:
407cane said:
I think what's lost at Texas is the most obvious thing of all. Mack brown hired greg robinson to "oversee" the defensive side and advise diaz because before the season ever started the hot seat was burning and he knew he'd have to make a change to save his job. after the disaster against byu, mack made the change (which was probably already promised to robinson).

I'm concerned with how he's done against elite offenses but it makes me happy when I realize we don't play any elite offenses. There will be no Oklahoma's or Baylor's on our schedule every year (teams with typically top ten offenses that he was known for struggling against). .

Football Outsiders has him at 19th in passing efficiency this year which is very promising considering now he'll have coach kool manning the pass rush.

some expecting a "home run hire" might be disappointed however I don't think the hiring of coach kuligowski can be brought up enough. When Diaz was most successful he ran a 2 read system that relied heavily on the safeties picking up the slack on zone blitzes. If the line couldn't rush effectively he ran into issues. I think Richt sees how well coach Kool and diaz can work together effectively to make sure this is successful. I will concede to the notion that we must get a proven db coach with Diaz as it's been a weakness of his defense in the past.

after looking up everything I could find on the guy, he seemed to be more successful while running a conservative scheme at LA Tech. I fully expect our defense to be aggressive here however, with a vastly improved d line front, it seems like he''ll be able to trust a 4 man effective rush under coach kool more often than having to blitz 5 or 6 consistently. This will allow him to achieve the same level of success without as much risk.

The man also has consistently turned every program around defensively starting year one and has a history of forced turnover success. His third down defense (ranking 37th last year) and red zone Defense being in the top 10 nationally have me very excited. I think his numbers would have been better to look at on paper had Miss State not run such a fast paced offense and controlled the clock a little better

NCAAF Football - Defensive Rankings & Statistics - January, 2016 | Odds Shark
^
here Miss St. is ranked 36th in adjusted Defensive statistics. Not "elite" but no pushover in the SEC against some legit teams (cam cameron lane kiffen etc calling plays against) all while being in the SEC west of all divisions and consistently over matched in athletes

also a good indicator of how they played --> cfbstats.com - 2015 Mississippi State Bulldogs

some points:
1)Opponents pts/game :23.2
2)redzone defense top 10 in the nation and 20% better than d'onofrio and co.
3)rush yard per play a whole yard less than where we were currently sitting with D'onofrio and with lesser athletes
4)third down defense : opponents converted 35% of the time, slightly better than our 39% under no d.

Also I know this thread is about Diaz but Kool plays a heavy role in Diaz success here so I want to throw some stuff out there that might encourage some people who are worried.

This metric is strictly on D line FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2015 NCAA DEFENSIVE LINE STATS

with no seniors, Coach Kool's mizzou line ranked:

Adjusted Line Yards: One of only two opponent-adjusted numbers on the page, this aligns with the ALY figure FO tracks for the NFL and is presented on a scale in which 100.0 is perfectly average, above 100 is good, below 100 is bad. RANK 28

Standard Downs Line Yards per Carry: The raw, unadjusted per-carry line yardage for a team on standard downs (first down, second-and-7 or fewer, third-and-4 or fewer, fourth-and-4 or fewer). RANK 31

Passing Downs Line Yards per Carry: The same unadjusted averages for rushing on passing downs. RANK 8

Opportunity Rate: The percentage of carries (when five yards are available) that gain at least five yards, i.e. the percentage of carries in which the line does its job, so to speak. RANK 13

Power Success Rate: This is the same as on the pro side -- percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown. RANK 51

Stuff Rate: Same as STUFFED on the pro side -- percentage of carries by running backs that are stopped at or before the line of scrimmage. RANK 6
^the most important one imo because it creates third and longs and plays hand in hand with a #2 rank nationally in TFL


Mizzou's Defensive line, led by Josh Augusta, is causing havoc - Rock M Nation



long story short, I have my reservations about the guy. Personally wanted Aranda, however can't blame the admin for how much $$ LSU threw at the guy. We wanted an attacking 4-3 coach and we got it. He's had great success and also some failure. With the right coaching staff in place to assist him (kool and a solid DB coach), better athletes, better time of possession on offense, and a weaker division I see no reason why he can't be successful here.


also something that i'm not sure has been brought up but Richt has no problem firing coordinators when necessary in his past. If diaz can't cut it he'll be gone we can be assured of that. Then maybe kool will get the chance to take over the defense
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Wow a fair evaluation by a level minded poster... impressed!
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Not to burst your bubble but I'm pretty sure we play ND next year
 
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The Franchise said:
Was the talent level so much worse than BYU that BYU should be expected to rush for 550 yards?
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The defense improved (not dramatically, but notably) when he was replaced by Greg Robinson that same year. There aren't justifications for his last year + 2 games at UT. There are things to wonder about so that hopefully he doesn't repeat them, but no outright excuses. He failed there.
 
LuCane said:
The Franchise said:
Was the talent level so much worse than BYU that BYU should be expected to rush for 550 yards?
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The defense improved (not dramatically, but notably) when he was replaced by Greg Robinson that same year. There aren't justifications for his last year + 2 games at UT. There are things to wonder about so that hopefully he doesn't repeat them, but no outright excuses. He failed there.
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Lu, can you make your aTm one consolidated, separate thread, for the folks to read and evaluate?
 
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