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I've gotta say, we've all been waiting for us to finally give FSU this type of beatdown and get some payback for 1997, 2010, and 2013. Any type of win against FSU is great, but the feeling after this win is unparalleled. Four in a row, and we just dropped the most points any team has ever dropped in this series ever. Putting that excitement to the side for a moment, here's what this win means for us and the State of Florida, considering we all finally played the same weekend.

On Us

  • I watched a lot of teams play today. Say what you will about our Canes' youth and shortcomings, but we look like a legit Top-10 football team right now. LSU got torced for 600-yds against the pirate and lost. Oklahoma blew it against K-State. Texas allowed 56 points and squeaked out a win against a bad Texas Tech Team. Texas A&M looked bad against Vandy, and barely pulled out the win. Overall, there is not another team in the country that's put up the type of wins we've created over the past three weeks. No doubt, Miami will go into it's match up with Clemson as a Top-10 football team. We'll likely get Gameday for a third time this season.

  • I've never seen a Miami team manhandle FSU the way we did tonight. This isn't a game, in the past 15-years, where anyone team has dominated the other consistently. FSU beat Miami bad in 2010 and 2013, but those games only blew open in the second half. We beat FSU last year 27-10, and I considered it the best performance we had against them in years. Today was a once in a generation win, enjoy it.

  • You'd be hard-pressed to find areas where we didn't play well tonight. Nevertheless, our WR's dropped some passes and continue to be average at best. Pope muffed another punt, which is a huge problem. The defense also had issues wrapping up from time to time at the point of attack. Nevertheless, we held FSU to 10, played solid red-zone defense, and forced three turnovers. Our guys came to play today.

  • Man, D'Eriq King. Guy is at a whole other level, and is definitely going to be in the Heisman conversation all season. At RB Cam Harris, Knighton, and Chaney continue to look great. Chaney really impressed me this game. Even Burns had some great reps.

  • Rhett Lashlee was the homerun hire of the CFB offseason. In the turn of a season, he's made us a legit Top-10 offense. Garrin Justice is doing wonders at OL too; guys are way improved from last year.

  • Dumb penalties continue to be an issue. If we want a chance at even touching Clemson, we can't commit 80+ yds of penalties.

  • FSU is not a good team, yes, but our issue the past few years has been letting bad teams hang around consistently. Especially in a rivalry. Even when we were "good" in 2017 and 2018 (at the start at least) we still struggled against them. Finally, we dominated a team like FSU from start to finish. Great teams impose their will on good/below-average teams.
On FSU
  • I've never, in all my years of watching our rivalry, seen an FSU team as bad as the one that came out today. Not only are they mentally weak, but they've got major holes all over that roster. James Blackmon isn't the type of QB that can play with an OL like their's, and Jordan Travis has limited arm talent and a run-first mentality (which got him injured in the Third). Their RB talent is average at best, and there isn't a WR not named Terry (didn't do anything against us tonight or last year) which would give any DB's a second though. OL is as bad as I've ever seen it, and they don't get any help from the TE's or RB's when they Chip.

  • We all remember how bad and inconsistent we've been over the past few years, especially during the 2010s, but we were never as bad as FSU is now. Say what you want, even when they had Jameis, Dalvin Cook, etc. we still fought in those games and were competitive (except 2010 & 2013; even then we fought for three quarters). FSU wasn't there from start to finish, which was shocking to see.

  • Mike Norvell has a massive rebuild on his hands. This is a 2-3 year rebuild at best, just to get back to being a 7-8 win football team. Norvell isn't a proven builder, and FSU doesn't have the money to go anywhere else for the next 3-4 years at least. I'd be nervous if I was an FSU fan. This is about the worst start that one of their coaches has ever had. Losing to a 1-2 GT team opening week, and getting torched for 52 against Miami. Right now they're at the bottom of the conference.

  • To expand on the last point, Norvell inherited a solid foundation and program from Justin Fuente, at Memphis. He is, by all accounts, a good coach. He is though not a proven builder in any sense. He inherited a consistent 9-10 win program at Memphis and built on that. He rarely ever got over the UCF hump when he was there, and his defenses were lacking. Could he turn the ship around at FSU? Of course he can. Nevertheless, the odds are against him. Right now he doesn't have the right personnel at any position, and FSU has no identity or culture. He's getting worked by Miami and UF in recruiting. They don't have any heart. Even with Randy, and dare I say Golden, you saw some moments early in their tenure's where you thought they could go somewhere. Not with Norvell, at least not two games in. At best they're a 3-win team this year.
On the Gators

  • Only thing that could've made tonight better is if we beat UF 52-10 rather than FSU. Nevertheless, I loathe UF Football, but they put up a solid showing today winning 51-35 at Ole Miss.

  • Kyle Trask picked apart Ole Miss, to the tune of 6-td's (pretty sure that was the line). UF's offense looked good and had no issues moving the ball against Ole Miss. That TE they have, Pitts, is the real deal.

  • Mullen is a solid coach, definitely Top 10 in the country right now at least. This is the year where we'll see if he can transition from a good coach to a great coach. With LSU, looking down, and UGA not looking great against Arkansas (at least through three quarters) they could legitimately only lose one game or go undefeated.

  • On defense, they looked bad. Ole Miss got near 600-yds of offense against them. They looked like swiss cheese at times. First-week jitters maybe, but against a team like LSU or UGA, they can't afford to be so inconsistent.
 
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FL Cane said:
I've gotta say, we've all been waiting for us to finally give FSU this type of beatdown and get some payback for 1997, 2010, and 2013. Any type of win against FSU is great, but the feeling after this win is unparalleled. Four in a row, and we just dropped the most points any team has ever dropped in this series ever. Putting that excitement to the side for a moment, here's what this win means for us and the State of Florida, considering we all finally played the same weekend.

On Us

  • I watched a lot of teams play today. Say what you will about our Canes' youth and shortcomings, but we look like a legit Top-10 football team right now. LSU got torced for 600-yds against the pirate and lost. Oklahoma blew it against K-State. Texas allowed 56 points and squeaked out a win against a bad Texas Tech Team. Texas A&M looked bad against Vandy, and barely pulled out the win. Overall, there is not another team in the country that's put up the type of wins we've created over the past three weeks. No doubt, Miami will go into it's match up with Clemson as a Top-10 football team. We'll likely get Gameday for a third time this season.

  • I've never seen a Miami team manhandle FSU the way we did tonight. This isn't a game, in the past 15-years, where anyone team has dominated the other consistently. FSU beat Miami bad in 2010 and 2013, but those games only blew open in the second half. We beat FSU last year 27-10, and I considered it the best performance we had against them in years. Today was a once in a generation win, enjoy it.

  • You'd be hard-pressed to find areas where we didn't play well tonight. Nevertheless, our WR's dropped some passes and continue to be average at best. Pope muffed another punt, which is a huge problem. The defense also had issues wrapping up from time to time at the point of attack. Nevertheless, we held FSU to 10, played solid red-zone defense, and forced three turnovers. Our guys came to play today.

  • Man, D'Eriq King. Guy is at a whole other level, and is definitely going to be in the Heisman conversation all season. At RB Cam Harris, Knighton, and Chaney continue to look great. Chaney really impressed me this game. Even Burns had some great reps.

  • Rhett Lashlee was the homerun hire of the CFB offseason. In the turn of a season, he's made us a legit Top-10 offense. Garrin Justice is doing wonders at OL too; guys are way improved from last year.

  • Dumb penalties continue to be an issue. If we want a chance at even touching Clemson, we can't commit 80+ yds of penalties.

  • FSU is not a good team, yes, but our issue the past few years has been letting bad teams hang around consistently. Especially in a rivalry. Even when we were "good" in 2017 and 2018 (at the start at least) we still struggled against them. Finally, we dominated a team like FSU from start to finish. Great teams impose their will on good/below-average teams.
On FSU
  • I've never, in all my years of watching our rivalry, seen an FSU team as bad as the one that came out today. Not only are they mentally weak, but they've got major holes all over that roster. James Blackmon isn't the type of QB that can play with an OL like their's, and Jordan Travis has limited arm talent and a run-first mentality (which got him injured in the Third). Their RB talent is average at best, and there isn't a WR not named Terry (didn't do anything against us tonight or last year) which would give any DB's a second though. OL is as bad as I've ever seen it, and they don't get any help from the TE's or RB's when they Chip.

  • We all remember how bad and inconsistent we've been over the past few years, especially during the 2010s, but we were never as bad as FSU is now. Say what you want, even when they had Jameis, Dalvin Cook, etc. we still fought in those games and were competitive (except 2010 & 2013; even then we fought for three quarters). FSU wasn't there from start to finish, which was shocking to see.

  • Mike Norvell has a massive rebuild on his hands. This is a 2-3 year rebuild at best, just to get back to being a 7-8 win football team. Norvell isn't a proven builder, and FSU doesn't have the money to go anywhere else for the next 3-4 years at least. I'd be nervous if I was an FSU fan. This is about the worst start that one of their coaches has ever had. Losing to a 1-2 GT team opening week, and getting torched for 52 against Miami. Right now they're at the bottom of the conference.

  • To expand on the last point, Norvell inherited a solid foundation and program from Justin Fuente, at Memphis. He is, by all accounts, a good coach. He is though not a proven builder in any sense. He inherited a consistent 9-10 win program at Memphis and built on that. He rarely ever got over the UCF hump when he was there, and his defenses were lacking. Could he turn the ship around at FSU? Of course he can. Nevertheless, the odds are against him. Right now he doesn't have the right personnel at any position, and FSU has no identity or culture. He's getting worked by Miami and UF in recruiting. They don't have any heart. Even with Randy, and dare I say Golden, you saw some moments early in their tenure's where you thought they could go somewhere. Not with Norvell, at least not two games in. At best they're a 3-win team this year.
On the Gators

  • Only thing that could've made tonight better is if we beat UF 52-10 rather than FSU. Nevertheless, I loathe UF Football, but they put up a solid showing today winning 51-35 at Ole Miss.

  • Kyle Trask picked apart Ole Miss, to the tune of 6-td's (pretty sure that was the line). UF's offense looked good and had no issues moving the ball against Ole Miss. That TE they have, Pitts, is the real deal.

  • Mullen is a solid coach, definitely Top 10 in the country right now at least. This is the year where we'll see if he can transition from a good coach to a great coach. With LSU, looking down, and UGA not looking great against Arkansas (at least through three quarters) they could legitimately only lose one game or go undefeated.

  • On defense, they looked bad. Ole Miss got near 600-yds of offense against them. They looked like swiss cheese at times. First-week jitters maybe, but against a team like LSU or UGA, they can't afford to be so inconsistent.
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I think LSU's loss will be a wakeup call for them and they will put a hurt on UF. UGA is definitely a loss. Based on A&M's performance, I give UF the edge now in that game. So I give them 2 loss season (maybe a surprise from UT and 3 losses) and they miss the SEC Championship game. Miami should finish with 1 loss and play in the ACC championship game. I suppose Miami would probably lose to Clemson in the ACC championship game. I would LOVE to see Miami-UF in the bowl game because I think we smoke them with that garbage defense of theirs.
 
TimeB0mb said:
I think LSU's loss will be a wakeup call for them and they will put a hurt on UF. UGA is definitely a loss. Based on A&M's performance, I give UF the edge now in that game. So I give them 2 loss season (maybe a surprise from UT and 3 losses) and they miss the SEC Championship game. Miami should finish with 1 loss and play in the ACC championship game. I suppose Miami would probably lose to Clemson in the ACC championship game. I would LOVE to see Miami-UF in the bowl game because I think we smoke them with that garbage defense of theirs.
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I was surprised how bad they looked on defense. Yeah, it's Week 1, but an Ole Miss team with a new HC running a new offense for the first time shouldn't dump 600-yds and 35-points on you.

I think LSU could get a wake-up call too. They didn't have issues on O, their new QB played pretty well. But that defense didn't have any rhythm, and the pirate outcoached Orgeron. On A&M, they did not look good, completely agree. Thought that was a game where UF could have issues, but I don't know about that know. Rocky top didn't look bad against SCAR, but they almost blew a big lead. UF has a way of taking their soul every year, so I don't count on them, should be a good game though.

On Clemson, the only way I think we win is if our O continues to play lights out, and we force at least three turnovers. Also can't have the amount of penalties we've had the past few games. Would love to play UF in a bowl game, wish we played them more often.
 
TimeB0mb said:
I think LSU's loss will be a wakeup call for them and they will put a hurt on UF. UGA is definitely a loss. Based on A&M's performance, I give UF the edge now in that game. So I give them 2 loss season (maybe a surprise from UT and 3 losses) and they miss the SEC Championship game. Miami should finish with 1 loss and play in the ACC championship game. I suppose Miami would probably lose to Clemson in the ACC championship game. I would LOVE to see Miami-UF in the bowl game because I think we smoke them with that garbage defense of theirs.
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They will beat L$U.

L$U has lost a ton from last year and is a 4-5 loss team
 
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prg3Kane said:
The impunity of the Bowden and Fischer years is coming home to roost. Whatever sins UM has committed in the past, we've paid the price every time and lived in the wilderness.

If you zoom out and take a 10,000 ft overview of FSU football, its worse than this season, the current rebuilt or the culture...
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I will say, the arrogance from their fanbase during the Jimbo years was something else. I always told my FSU friends that the pendulum swings and that they would be mediocre again sooner than they'd think. They never bought it, thought Jimbo would stay forever.

Not only did they lose a great coach like Jimbo, basically pushed him out, but they replaced him with a coach worse than Al Golden in Willie Taggart, and gave him a massive buyout to take a risk on Mike Norvell. At a foundational level, they've got no heart and no identity in that program.
 
JeddTheFisch said:
They will beat L$U.

L$U has lost a ton from last year and is a 4-5 loss team
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LSU just buys more players. Just like every team, LSU has to gel with the new players in a short offseason. Leach had his kids excited to take on the champs where LSU was soft and luxuriating in being the champs. Rocky III syndrome. If there was a way to bet you directly via the internet, I would bet you that the players from the championship team will get that locker room back in order and they will not lose 4 games.
 
Diaz went out and got a top class OC. We got some transfers and FR but alot of our players are the same. I don't think we have national title talent but we could give teams a real problem. FSU suck but these are the games we have struggled with, this is a different team. Coaching matters.
 
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Georgia might be a differenf team when they get JT Daniels back. At least that's what I'm hoping because I already bet a Gator fan at work that Georgia kicks their ***.
 
k9cane said:
Truth of the matter is, even in the last couple of good Jimbo years, much of that was Dalvin Cook going into the phone booth and becoming Superman, and bailing them out. Once he left, well......
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It was Dalvin in Superman mode and Jimbos second half adjustments. Say what you will about him but that dude was good at that.
 
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A lot of “dominant” defenses giving up 500+ yards and 30+ points this year. It’s almost like in 2020 it’s really tough to totally shut down good P5 offenses.
 
I won't pile on FSU because we have been there and maybe forcing Bowden out is coming home to roost. That is how I feel as a
Dolphin fan since we haven't been the same.

Can't stand the Gainesville place I mean my buddy is a big fan and of course he has to call during their game to say how they are champions after week 1. I really think our guys would like another crack at them and with this offense I take the U.

For us and to me it just means we are 3-0 and look much better on offense than last year but we need to keep it going. Bolden and Silvera look great but I am not a fan of the bend but don't break philosophy because the good quarterbacks will make you pay.

Great win and easy to be excited...but I want to stick with guarded optimism since we still have questions on the defensive side of the ball.

ps...Dalvin Cook is still haunting me just now in fantasy.
 
CaneDawgCrew said:
I won't pile on FSU because we have been there and maybe forcing Bowden out is coming home to roost. That is how I feel as a
Dolphin fan since we haven't been the same.

Can't stand the Gainesville place I mean my buddy is a big fan and of course he has to call during their game to say how they are champions after week 1. I really think our guys would like another crack at them and with this offense I take the U.

For us and to me it just means we are 3-0 and look much better on offense than last year but we need to keep it going. Bolden and Silvera look great but I am not a fan of the bend but don't break philosophy because the good quarterbacks will make you pay.

Great win and easy to be excited...but I want to stick with guarded optimism since we still have questions on the defensive side of the ball.

ps...Dalvin Cook is still haunting me just now in fantasy.
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You do realize that after they “forced Bowden out” they won a national championship and went to the playoffs a second time, right?
 
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CaneDawgCrew said:
I won't pile on FSU because we have been there and maybe forcing Bowden out is coming home to roost. That is how I feel as a
Dolphin fan since we haven't been the same.

Can't stand the Gainesville place I mean my buddy is a big fan and of course he has to call during their game to say how they are champions after week 1. I really think our guys would like another crack at them and with this offense I take the U.

For us and to me it just means we are 3-0 and look much better on offense than last year but we need to keep it going. Bolden and Silvera look great but I am not a fan of the bend but don't break philosophy because the good quarterbacks will make you pay.

Great win and easy to be excited...but I want to stick with guarded optimism since we still have questions on the defensive side of the ball.

ps...Dalvin Cook is still haunting me just now in fantasy.
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Didn’t Radio have the inside track on Dalvin, then his firing screwed that entire pooch?
 
CaneDawgCrew said:
I won't pile on FSU because we have been there and maybe forcing Bowden out is coming home to roost. That is how I feel as a
Dolphin fan since we haven't been the same.

Can't stand the Gainesville place I mean my buddy is a big fan and of course he has to call during their game to say how they are champions after week 1. I really think our guys would like another crack at them and with this offense I take the U.

For us and to me it just means we are 3-0 and look much better on offense than last year but we need to keep it going. Bolden and Silvera look great but I am not a fan of the bend but don't break philosophy because the good quarterbacks will make you pay.

Great win and easy to be excited...but I want to stick with guarded optimism since we still have questions on the defensive side of the ball.

ps...Dalvin Cook is still haunting me just now in fantasy.
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I still think it's criminal how UiF FSWhoo and Miami don't all play each other annually..
 
TimeB0mb said:
LSU just buys more players. Just like every team, LSU has to gel with the new players in a short offseason. Leach had his kids excited to take on the champs where LSU was soft and luxuriating in being the champs. Rocky III syndrome. If there was a way to bet you directly via the internet, I would bet you that the players from the championship team will get that locker room back in order and they will not lose 4 games.
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It's not just that, LSU lost two elite coordinators - Aranda and Brady. Replacing Aranda with Pelini is a downgrade, no matter how you look at it.
 
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