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RVACane said:
Based on my experience here as a Maude for many years, I’m certain that you and Baby Bot aka @Trinton Breeze) aren’t getting a whole lot of direction, more like d$ drawing up plays in the sand and saying go long. 🤣

We (CIS) need to figure out a way to have articles which @DMoney says get the most views, while consolidating all threads on a player into one, linked to or under that article. I suspect that the article views aren’t as quality as the message board aspect as far as view time. I don’t think a new thread should be started on an individual player for every twist and turn. If it’s possible to sticky post articles at the top of an individual player threads, kind of like we can for each sub board, that would be a possibility I’d think but @Andrew would need to create that framework.

Regardless, thank you for your efforts and those of your cohort Baby Bot who seems to embrace the hate.

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am I the only one that doesn't believe the articles get viewed the most by CIS members??? maybe nationwide viewers, but I doubt from this board...
 
First of all, don't blame @Trinton Breeze and @Kamdyn Burton. Blame me. They're just doing what I asked them to do. I'm very happy with them.

I agree the Acaden Lewis threads were an issue. Part of it was that Lewis had a bunch of threads from his HS recruitment, and we probably wrote too many articles anyway. I also spoke to Kamdyn about his duplicative tweet, which he'll learn from as a rookie.

But the reality is that the Basketball Board got more action over the past 12 months than any other 12-month period, including our Final 4 run. I just re-checked the numbers and it's true. The articles consistently get a lot of views. One thing I've learned over 15 years is that the interests of the hardcore and the quiet majority aren't always aligned. If I only listened to the hardcores, this brand would've never grown. But the hardcores are also the foundation of the brand's success, so I won't ignore you guys, either.

Here's my solution: I told Trinton and Kamdyn to only write hoops articles for legitimate breaking news (commitment, coach leaving, NBA draft declaration, etc). The rest can be threads and posts. If it's duplicative, a mod can merge it. This will keep the board moving while also avoiding this article issue. We can see how it goes and revisit this later.
 
DMoney said:
First of all, don't blame @Trinton Breeze and @Kamdyn Burton. Blame me. They're just doing what I asked them to do. I'm very happy with them.

I agree the Acaden Lewis threads were an issue. Part of it was that Lewis had a bunch of threads from his HS recruitment, and we probably wrote too many articles anyway. I also spoke to Kamdyn about his duplicative tweet, which he'll learn from as a rookie.

But the reality is that the Basketball Board got more action over the past 12 months than any other 12-month period, including our Final 4 run. I just re-checked the numbers and it's true. The articles consistently get a lot of views. One thing I've learned over 15 years is that the interests of the hardcore and the quiet majority aren't always aligned. If I only listened to the hardcores, this brand would've never grown. But the hardcores are also the foundation of the brand's success, so I won't ignore you guys, either.

Here's my solution: I told Trinton and Kamdyn to only write hoops articles for legitimate breaking news (commitment, coach leaving, NBA draft declaration, etc). The rest can be threads and posts. If it's duplicative, a mod can merge it. This will keep the board moving while also avoiding this article issue. We can see how it goes and revisit this later.
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DMoney said:
First of all, don't blame @Trinton Breeze and @Kamdyn Burton. Blame me. They're just doing what I asked them to do. I'm very happy with them.

I agree the Acaden Lewis threads were an issue. Part of it was that Lewis had a bunch of threads from his HS recruitment, and we probably wrote too many articles anyway. I also spoke to Kamdyn about his duplicative tweet, which he'll learn from as a rookie.

But the reality is that the Basketball Board got more action over the past 12 months than any other 12-month period, including our Final 4 run. I just re-checked the numbers and it's true. The articles consistently get a lot of views. One thing I've learned over 15 years is that the interests of the hardcore and the quiet majority aren't always aligned. If I only listened to the hardcores, this brand would've never grown. But the hardcores are also the foundation of the brand's success, so I won't ignore you guys, either.

Here's my solution: I told Trinton and Kamdyn to only write hoops articles for legitimate breaking news (commitment, coach leaving, NBA draft declaration, etc). The rest can be threads and posts. If it's duplicative, a mod can merge it. This will keep the board moving while also avoiding this article issue. We can see how it goes and revisit this later.
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Great update and hope this will apply to other forums as well such as Recruiting
 
RVACane said:
Based on my experience here as a Maude for many years, I’m certain that you and Baby Bot aka @Trinton Breeze) aren’t getting a whole lot of direction, more like d$ drawing up plays in the sand and saying go long. 🤣

We (CIS) need to figure out a way to have articles which @DMoney says get the most views, while consolidating all threads on a player into one, linked to or under that article. I suspect that the article views aren’t as quality as the message board aspect as far as view time. I don’t think a new thread should be started on an individual player for every twist and turn. If it’s possible to sticky post articles at the top of an individual player threads, kind of like we can for each sub board, that would be a possibility I’d think but @Andrew would need to create that framework.

Regardless, thank you for your efforts and those of your cohort Baby Bot who seems to embrace the hate.

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Calinative said:
You guys know that “news” articles get posted when new news drops, right?
Thats what the articles section is.

The problem is
1) it posts into the regular forums.
2) it allows comments with makes it so maybe like 5-10 comments and discussion take place in each individual article.

The solution is
1) the ability when writing the article to CHOOSE whether the post only posts to the Articles sections, or BOTH the Articles And Basketball discussion forum
2) the ability when writing the article to CHOOSE a specific centralized post in the forums where all the discussion should be taking place
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You've correctly highlighted the problems and your proposed solution is similar to what I proposed to @DMoney about 2 months ago. He never responded, but I'll repeat my easy, low-tech here anyway:

When publishing an article concerning a player/coach/game that already has an ongoing thread (other than a commitment thread), just include a link to the ongoing thread at the end of the article and immediately close the article thread. If there is no ongoing discussion or pre-existing thread, you keep the article open for discussion.

People who like to view articles get to view articles, the website gets the clicks from articles, conversations don't get split among multiple threads, and people who view articles may be inclined to click the link to the discussion thread (generating another sweet click). This wouldn't require any new technology (we can already close threads and add links), just maybe 30 seconds of time for the person publishing the article (double the time spent proofreading the article, but still low).
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
You've correctly highlighted the problems and your proposed solution is similar to what I proposed to @DMoney about 2 months ago. He never responded, but I'll repeat my easy, low-tech here anyway:

When publishing an article concerning a player/coach/game that already has an ongoing thread (other than a commitment thread), just include a link to the ongoing thread at the end of the article and immediately close the article thread. If there is no ongoing discussion or pre-existing thread, you keep the article open for discussion.

People who like to view articles get to view articles, the website gets the clicks from articles, conversations don't get split among multiple threads, and people who view articles may be inclined to click the link to the discussion thread (generating another sweet click). This wouldn't require any new technology (we can already close threads and add links), just maybe 30 seconds of time for the person publishing the article (double the time spent proofreading the article, but still low).
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How would it ease the cluttering of the board tho? I get the threads would go down quickly as no responses, but at the rate they were dumping articles, that would still be a lot of dead threads on the board right?

Its a good idea. I still think articles should be posted on a different board.
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
How would it ease the cluttering of the board tho? I get the threads would go down quickly as no responses, but at the rate they were dumping articles, that would still be a lot of dead threads on the board right?

Its a good idea. I still think articles should be posted on a different board.
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The first part of your answer was my thought process... the articles would eventually move off Page 1. That, and I'd rather employ a good (admittedly not ideal) solution rather than wait for the perfect solution. The beauty of my idea is it can be implemented right now. @DMoney would just have to say the word.

I'm not opposed to having articles populate on a separate forum, but I'm not sure management views that as a workable solution for the continued growth of the CIS brand.
 
No clue if already asked & answered but

What if the writers post the thread with an article then lock it?

Would still get views and clicks

Posts continue in the other thread about player
 
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DMoney said:
First of all, don't blame @Trinton Breeze and @Kamdyn Burton. Blame me. They're just doing what I asked them to do. I'm very happy with them.

I agree the Acaden Lewis threads were an issue. Part of it was that Lewis had a bunch of threads from his HS recruitment, and we probably wrote too many articles anyway. I also spoke to Kamdyn about his duplicative tweet, which he'll learn from as a rookie.

But the reality is that the Basketball Board got more action over the past 12 months than any other 12-month period, including our Final 4 run. I just re-checked the numbers and it's true. The articles consistently get a lot of views. One thing I've learned over 15 years is that the interests of the hardcore and the quiet majority aren't always aligned. If I only listened to the hardcores, this brand would've never grown. But the hardcores are also the foundation of the brand's success, so I won't ignore you guys, either.

Here's my solution: I told Trinton and Kamdyn to only write hoops articles for legitimate breaking news (commitment, coach leaving, NBA draft declaration, etc). The rest can be threads and posts. If it's duplicative, a mod can merge it. This will keep the board moving while also avoiding this article issue. We can see how it goes and revisit this later.
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Are the article views coming from the board or the home page though? My suspicion is that the "hardcore" and "quiet majority" use this site completely differently. I don't even go to the home page, just directly to the forums. If the majority of article views are coming from the home page, there could just be an articles sub-forum where articles are posted and everyone is happy.
 
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