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What are the hiring criteria?

In our case, each coach had to pass the ball test, per BJ. Each was given a football during the interview, then told to squeeze the ball. 100% of the interviewees passed, and got hired.
 
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Ethnicsands said:
Dont get me wrong. I am not pitching delusion. The question was criteria. I can get my head around someone who has run a mid-tier program solidly, provided the other criteria are met.
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Just for poops and giggles let’s play out this conversation and break the options into two pools:

1. Head coach from a lower tier school or conference
2. Coordinator from a major program

To be successful and knowing UM, I don’t think shelling out $6mm for a head coach would leave enough for the rest of the staff. I think it’s garbage that we are in this situation, but let’s just assume it as fact and remove paying for a competent successful HC from another school.
 
Cane6 said:
Just for poops and giggles let’s play out this conversation and break the options into two pools:

1. Head coach from a lower tier school or conference
2. Coordinator from a major program

To be successful and knowing UM, I don’t think shelling out $6mm for a head coach would leave enough for the rest of the staff. I think it’s garbage that we are in this situation, but let’s just assume it as fact and remove paying for a competent successful HC from another school.
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Youre mixing issues and wrong on the assumptions here. Very, very few head coaches make 6 mm. We pay enough for a HC and staff.
 
Ethnicsands said:
I disagree. We are well past the point where we can take a flier on someone without proven HC ability, imo. This is not a place to learn on the job at.

NFL coaches today arent good analogies because their organizations do most of what cfb coaches have to do, run by other people (GM, President, player personnel, etc.).

just because some of these types work out doesnt mean this is a risk we should take today.
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You raise an interesting point. But first the school has to decide what type of program they want to be. As you put it, a program that competes for playoff spots or a program that happy with 9-3 and a cool bowl game for the boosters to go to.

If it's competing for the playoff, they need to get serious with the infrastructure supporting the program that are run by "other people in the Pros". I can't believe that Saban, Sweeney, or Smart are distracted from football related matters performing what can be easily delegated to others. All those analysts they've been stockpiling are there for a reason.

If they decide to get serious, you have a pretty good starting list on the individual traits to look for.
 
Ethnicsands said:
Dont get me wrong. I am not pitching delusion. The question was criteria. I can get my head around someone who has run a mid-tier program solidly, provided the other criteria are met.
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I really like Bill Clark, man.
He took over a 6-5 Jacksonville State team, won 11 games 1st yr and took them to the FCS playoffs

Next took over a folded UAB football program, got them 6 wins first yr, 8 wins second yr, 11 wins 3rd yr and the Conference championship, and they are on their way to another 10+ wins.

He’s from the South, and he knows how to rebuild programs, obviously. His offense is pretty balanced between pass/run. I like him as an up & comer .
 
Ethnicsands said:
Youre mixing issues and wrong on the assumptions here. Very, very few head coaches make 6 mm. We pay enough for a HC and staff.
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The top 12 are all at or above $6mm. The top 20 are at or above $5mm. Assuming that we were willing to pay up to $5mm per year for a HC and have enough for an equally competent staff, who would you want?

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I’d hire Dave Arranda or Brent Venables and have them get a David Yost or Brian Wright to run the offense.
 
Gentlemen.

A great coach never costs the University a dime. Great coordinators - never cost a dime.

Oh, they get their paychecks - but they also generate so much more excess revenue above what they earn - they way more than pay their own way.

You'd think a university - with ANY pretense of having finance and marketing experts - would know this.
 
Tbh the more and more I’ve thought about it over the years the less I care about “recruiting ties” and recruiting prowess from a HC. Give me a guy who has proven that he can do more with less over the course of several seasons and is sound on the X’s and O’s of football. Preferably an offensive mind.

The blue chips we need to win big will inevitably come if you prove your worth as a HC.
 
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If the stupid university would have committed to sustaining a winning football program after Coker, the entire university would have benefited from the economic benefits from winning year in and year out. Spend a lot and get a lot more. Certainly beats dwindling tix sales and ridiculous buyouts.
 
Swaggie said:
Tbh the more and more I’ve thought about it over the years the less I care about “recruiting ties” and recruiting prowess from a HC. Give me a guy who has proven that he can do more with less over the course of several seasons and is sound on the X’s and O’s of football. Preferably an offensive mind.

The blue chips we need to win big will inevitably come if you prove your worth as a HC.
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I agree, especially since it’s been so long that Miami fielded a well coached team that didn’t beat itself.

I’m not saying he’s my choice, although he’s better than Manny, is Bronco Mendenhall when looking at what you just described
 
Rellyrell said:
I really like Bill Clark, man.
He took over a 6-5 Jacksonville State team, won 11 games 1st yr and took them to the FCS playoffs

Next took over a folded UAB football program, got them 6 wins first yr, 8 wins second yr, 11 wins 3rd yr and the Conference championship, and they are on their way to another 10+ wins.

He’s from the South, and he knows how to rebuild programs, obviously. His offense is pretty balanced between pass/run. I like him as an up & comer .
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Also love his DC, Reaves.
 
- Head coach with power 5 experience
- History of successfully developing players
- Doing more with less
- Someone who was clearly demonstrated correcting areas where there have been struggles in a timely manner
- Proven leadership qualities
- Strong formula for evaluating players. If you’ve read anything on Belichick, Saban, Gil Brandt you know what I mean with their grading scales

Stars f-cking matter. They really do. Just look at every national championship team and look at their composites. People fail to realize that’s only part of the equation. We have talented enough guys here but we don’t utilize them correctly and then send them to be “raw talent” 6th rounders and some of them develop then. This is the most talented team we’ve had in a while but the results show that coaching is just as maybe even more important. We’re not going to have a roster full of 2 and low 3 stars at Miami anytime soon. We’ll be top 25 talent wise every year just because of geography and the brand recognition we still have. We don’t need ace recruiter type guys to solve our current problems (it’s a big + of course). For the near future we will be significantly more talented than 10-11 teams on our schedule. Some of you people get mad when we lose 5 stars to Bama, UGA etc. “Oh we lost him because of bag$ not because the staff is incompetent or we just sh-t the bed with lesser talented Duke, VA Tech and Pitt.” “He said he loved Miami and it was his dream school. F that kid.” It probably was his dream school until he was exposed to the way elite programs actually develop their players, compared our results and their results. If you’re a recruit it’s a very easy decision to make and you don’t even need bags to be a factor. Need a coach that can consistently coach up and lead players to beat the inferior opponents we play and that’ll get us to 10-2 type teams that win the Coastal. Do that and then you’re in play for those nationally recruited 5 stars and then we’ll be a national brand again.

I’ve never really cared for him and I find those post game speeches extremely cheesy but I think a guy like Dino Babers checks a lot of boxes and at this point we have nothing more to lose so why not.
 
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Ethnicsands said:
Imagine you were hiring a HC for UM, for 2020. This situation. Now.

-What is the definition of success? What are the goals we expect a coach to achieve?
-What does it take to accomplish them?
-What resources do we have to work with? What do we need in place that we don’t have, and how will we get them?

Given all that, what are the hiring criteria? What really matters? What are the must haves Vs. ‘nice to haves.’ What are the real priorities? Experience, capbilities, personal traits, cultural fit...
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1. Can't be from Temple
2. Can't be from previous staff
3. No first year coaches
4. Can't coach somewhere for 15yrs without a ship
5. Has to be respected in the college football world
 
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Cane6 said:
The top 12 are all at or above $6mm. The top 20 are at or above $5mm. Assuming that we were willing to pay up to $5mm per year for a HC and have enough for an equally competent staff, who would you want?

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Richt was tied for 15th, and the 8th highest paid coach was only 1 mm higher. We’re in the mix on comp for Hc. Staff and support, however, are lacking.
 
He needs to check 3 boxes.

Connection to Miami.

Must have 0 offers from other P5 schools as a HC.

Have unending loyalty to his buddies and would rather get fired than cause harm to them.(bonus points if he has a lot of recently fired buddies from G5 or FCS programs looking for jobs).

Bonus points if he came from a failed staff as a coordinator and/or was fired at least once in the past few years.
 
We need an AD with standards and a plan. Someone that won’t let coaches hire buddies and yes men. If I was interviewing coaches I would need a plan and an explanation as to why he wanted to hire those assistants. Unfortunately we don’t have anybody in the upper brass that knows anything about football.

With that being said the top realistic options IMO are:

Justin Wilcox
Neal Brown
Dino Babers (not sold on him but I could be convinced)
Hugh Freese (UM would never hire him but I think he would flourish here)

Dream candidates we could get if we ponied up the cash (not including Urban):

Chris Peterson
Kyle Whittingham
 
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