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We've been lights out on defense for 27 out of 28 quarters

CaneLife93 said:
Yeah, totally agree. Sometime meathead football is a good thing if you have the OL to control the LOS and TOP. If we’re successful running the ball that game that’ll help in all different areas tactically, imo. Keep Keon off the field and break down their spirit.

It’ll take 31 or so points to win this game, maybe more with how explosive they can be.
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If we score 31 we win. Or at a minimum, it’s a 1 score game in the last ~5 minutes and we have an opportunity to win it.

A TVD 4th quarter comeback 34-31 win would be poetic.
 
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ageezy said:
it's hard for me to lay that on the defense ... they gave up 23 points and 250 TOTAL yards ...
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Against P5 Teams we've given up:

UNC - 41
Texas A&M - 33
GT - 23
Clemson - 20

We only gave up 17 total points in our 3 Non P5 games - so that's still skewing things a bit.

While I don't think they've been "lights out" - our Defense has looked really good & better than I expected.
 
bshaw28 said:
Against P5 Teams we've given up:

UNC - 41
Texas A&M - 33
GT - 23
Clemson - 20

We only gave up 17 total points in our 3 Non P5 games - so that's still skewing things a bit.

While I don't think they've been "lights out" - our Defense has looked really good & better than I expected.
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my only gripe is the other top teams played non p5 schools as well, if your gonna skew our data, you have to skew theirs also ...
 
ageezy said:
my only gripe is the other top teams played non p5 schools as well, if your gonna skew our data, you have to skew theirs also ...
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Yes - but not as many as Miami has.

Here's how many Non-P5 teams the Top ACC teams have played:

Miami - 3
Duke - 2
Clemson - 2
FSU - 1
UNC - 1
Louisville - 1

This isn't to say our D hasn't been good. I think they have been. But stats-wise we've had a pretty friendly schedule so far.
 
bshaw28 said:
Against P5 Teams we've given up:

UNC - 41
Texas A&M - 33
GT - 23
Clemson - 20

We only gave up 17 total points in our 3 Non P5 games - so that's still skewing things a bit.

While I don't think they've been "lights out" - our Defense has looked really good & better than I expected.
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Yes stats have a funny way of being able to be manipulated one way or another. A&M was gifted a bunch of points by our special teams. UNC gifted a lot on turnovers to an extent. On the flip Clemson turned it over a lot on us and as great as our D played they left some plays out there for sure. Temple had a WR that was unstoppable at times against us despite them not scoring

The last line you’re saying there is pretty spot on
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I also don't think the offense did the defense many favors in the 2nd half of the UNC game.

Remember, the depth here on defense is not nearly where it needs to be. Rueben Bain is obviously a serial killer, but he's a true freshman, and he played I believe 64 out of 70 snaps against Clemson. I don't care how good a true freshman is, when you have a sustained program with elite talent at every position, 2-deep, they're not playing 64 snaps out of 70. But Bain has to, partly because they can't keep him off the field but also partly because there just isn't a lot of depth yet.

So what happens when you don't have a lot of depth on your defensive front? You have to stay fresh. What happened against Clemson? Miami held the ball for 37:30....Clemson had the ball for 22:30. That keeps your defensive front really fresh, which clearly they were in the 4th quarter and overtime.

But what happened against UNC? Well, the 3rd quarter you speak of, UNC took the opening kickoff and scored. Inexcusable, but Jaden Davis gets torched, and we're down 21-17. We hold the ball for about 2 minutes, and fumble. Defense right back on the field. But they actually get a stop! Bang! We're in business! Oops, interception on the first play, defense right back on the field, this time on its own 23 yard line. Touchdown. Now the game is slipping through our fingers, the defense is exhausted. So what do we do on offense? 3 and out in 2 minutes. Ballgame.

So the defense was inexcusable, no doubt. I just wish we could've seen what happened if the offense didn't turn the ball over on literal back to back plays in the beginning of the 3rd quarter.
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You spitting fire in that post! Especially the comparison between the Clemson and UNC games!
 
JHallCanes said:
Yes stats have a funny way of being able to be manipulated one way or another. A&M was gifted a bunch of points by our special teams. UNC gifted a lot on turnovers to an extent. On the flip Clemson turned it over a lot on us and as great as our D played they left some plays out there for sure. Temple had a WR that was unstoppable at times against us despite them not scoring

The last line you’re saying there is pretty spot on
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Turnovers have been the stat/story of the year so far IMO:

GT -3
UNC -4
Texas A&M +2
Clemson +2

We've yet to play a team straight up turnover-wise. We've gotten some lucky & unlucky bounces.
 
I don't think we've been lights out.

The secondary got pretty effectively picked on in the TAMU, UNC, and Clemson game.

The entire defense got ran over in the UNC game.

If Clemson just kept throwing, they would've had over 400 passing yards and could've easily won.

We've been much better than last year especially in the front seven.

If the secondary played better assignment football then the defense could look phenomenal. We've seen them do it a lot this year and when everyone plays correctly, the defense looks phenomenal. I think we need higher IQ safeties, and another lockdown corner.
 
kyle_schick said:
I don't think we've been lights out.

The secondary got pretty effectively picked on in the TAMU, UNC, and Clemson game.

The entire defense got ran over in the UNC game.

If Clemson just kept throwing, they would've had over 400 passing yards and could've easily won.

We've been much better than last year especially in the front seven.

If the secondary played better assignment football then the defense could look phenomenal. We've seen them do it a lot this year and when everyone plays correctly, the defense looks phenomenal. I think we need higher IQ safeties, and another lockdown corner.
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Well said!
 
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ageezy said:
3rd quarter against unc got away from us ...
we've come a long way ... 10 sacks that last two games ...
#21 in total defense
#7 rushing defense
#24 in scoring defense
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Twenty-seven and a half.

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kyle_schick said:
I don't think we've been lights out.

The secondary got pretty effectively picked on in the TAMU, UNC, and Clemson game.

The entire defense got ran over in the UNC game.

If Clemson just kept throwing, they would've had over 400 passing yards and could've easily won.

We've been much better than last year especially in the front seven.

If the secondary played better assignment football then the defense could look phenomenal. We've seen them do it a lot this year and when everyone plays correctly, the defense looks phenomenal. I think we need higher IQ safeties, and another lockdown corner.
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my only pushback is that context matters ...
TAMU racked up yards via game script, they were chasing us for most of the second half
UNC gave it to us the third quarter ... tip the cap to maye
Clemson got 314 passing, but it didn't feel like it ... and we only gave up 345 TOTAL
 
Hufftwoseven said:
Still want to put that Gt score solely on the shoulder of Kam
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If you can't put that 100% on Mario, then you're crazy. And IF you want to blame someone else, look at the idiot refs who called that a fumble when his whole **** arm was on the ground. Elbow, shoulder.... Yeah, he was down. Not even close.
 
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