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We've been lights out on defense for 27 out of 28 quarters

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3rd quarter of unc looked like us the last 20 years, but everything else this year has been good progress

I know the gtech game was way too close but we did figure out a way to win…then yea lol
 
coffeecane said:
Yeah. The d was probably thinking about a shower and post game presser when they were asked to go back on the field. But 2 plays for 75 yards wiped out an otherwise good performance.
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**** yeah.

I know mine does after beating up a cat.
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coffeecane said:
Yeah. The d was probably thinking about a shower and post game presser when they were asked to go back on the field. But 2 plays for 75 yards wiped out an otherwise good performance.
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it's hard for me to lay that on the defense ... they gave up 23 points and 250 TOTAL yards ...
 
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I also don't think the offense did the defense many favors in the 2nd half of the UNC game.

Remember, the depth here on defense is not nearly where it needs to be. Rueben Bain is obviously a serial killer, but he's a true freshman, and he played I believe 64 out of 70 snaps against Clemson. I don't care how good a true freshman is, when you have a sustained program with elite talent at every position, 2-deep, they're not playing 64 snaps out of 70. But Bain has to, partly because they can't keep him off the field but also partly because there just isn't a lot of depth yet.

So what happens when you don't have a lot of depth on your defensive front? You have to stay fresh. What happened against Clemson? Miami held the ball for 37:30....Clemson had the ball for 22:30. That keeps your defensive front really fresh, which clearly they were in the 4th quarter and overtime.

But what happened against UNC? Well, the 3rd quarter you speak of, UNC took the opening kickoff and scored. Inexcusable, but Jaden Davis gets torched, and we're down 21-17. We hold the ball for about 2 minutes, and fumble. Defense right back on the field. But they actually get a stop! Bang! We're in business! Oops, interception on the first play, defense right back on the field, this time on its own 23 yard line. Touchdown. Now the game is slipping through our fingers, the defense is exhausted. So what do we do on offense? 3 and out in 2 minutes. Ballgame.

So the defense was inexcusable, no doubt. I just wish we could've seen what happened if the offense didn't turn the ball over on literal back to back plays in the beginning of the 3rd quarter.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I also don't think the offense did the defense many favors in the 2nd half of the UNC game.

Remember, the depth here on defense is not nearly where it needs to be. Rueben Bain is obviously a serial killer, but he's a true freshman, and he played I believe 64 out of 70 snaps against Clemson. I don't care how good a true freshman is, when you have a sustained program with elite talent at every position, 2-deep, they're not playing 64 snaps out of 70. But Bain has to, partly because they can't keep him off the field but also partly because there just isn't a lot of depth yet.

So what happens when you don't have a lot of depth on your defensive front? You have to stay fresh. What happened against Clemson? Miami held the ball for 37:30....Clemson had the ball for 22:30. That keeps your defensive front really fresh, which clearly they were in the 4th quarter and overtime.

But what happened against UNC? Well, the 3rd quarter you speak of, UNC took the opening kickoff and scored. Inexcusable, but Jaden Davis gets torched, and we're down 21-17. We hold the ball for about 2 minutes, and fumble. Defense right back on the field. But they actually get a stop! Bang! We're in business! Oops, interception on the first play, defense right back on the field, this time on its own 23 yard line. Touchdown. Now the game is slipping through our fingers, the defense is exhausted. So what do we do on offense? 3 and out in 2 minutes. Ballgame.

So the defense was inexcusable, no doubt. I just wish we could've seen what happened if the offense didn't turn the ball over on literal back to back plays in the beginning of the 3rd quarter.
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Drake Maye’s state line wasn’t impressive either that first half. He was like 9-20 that first half. I believe we were driving and just crossed the 50 before the botched snap and fumble.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I also don't think the offense did the defense many favors in the 2nd half of the UNC game.

Remember, the depth here on defense is not nearly where it needs to be. Rueben Bain is obviously a serial killer, but he's a true freshman, and he played I believe 64 out of 70 snaps against Clemson. I don't care how good a true freshman is, when you have a sustained program with elite talent at every position, 2-deep, they're not playing 64 snaps out of 70. But Bain has to, partly because they can't keep him off the field but also partly because there just isn't a lot of depth yet.

So what happens when you don't have a lot of depth on your defensive front? You have to stay fresh. What happened against Clemson? Miami held the ball for 37:30....Clemson had the ball for 22:30. That keeps your defensive front really fresh, which clearly they were in the 4th quarter and overtime.

But what happened against UNC? Well, the 3rd quarter you speak of, UNC took the opening kickoff and scored. Inexcusable, but Jaden Davis gets torched, and we're down 21-17. We hold the ball for about 2 minutes, and fumble. Defense right back on the field. But they actually get a stop! Bang! We're in business! Oops, interception on the first play, defense right back on the field, this time on its own 23 yard line. Touchdown. Now the game is slipping through our fingers, the defense is exhausted. So what do we do on offense? 3 and out in 2 minutes. Ballgame.

So the defense was inexcusable, no doubt. I just wish we could've seen what happened if the offense didn't turn the ball over on literal back to back plays in the beginning of the 3rd quarter.
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I agree for most part but some fans/corches might roll their eyes at the depth situation saying, if they lose their two top DEs not many teams can roll in a Bain off the bench, lol.. Bain dont have a backup because we dont go 3 deep, 90% of country dont go three deep.. Bain is a depth piece pushed into increase role because of injuries.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I also don't think the offense did the defense many favors in the 2nd half of the UNC game.

Remember, the depth here on defense is not nearly where it needs to be. Rueben Bain is obviously a serial killer, but he's a true freshman, and he played I believe 64 out of 70 snaps against Clemson. I don't care how good a true freshman is, when you have a sustained program with elite talent at every position, 2-deep, they're not playing 64 snaps out of 70. But Bain has to, partly because they can't keep him off the field but also partly because there just isn't a lot of depth yet.

So what happens when you don't have a lot of depth on your defensive front? You have to stay fresh. What happened against Clemson? Miami held the ball for 37:30....Clemson had the ball for 22:30. That keeps your defensive front really fresh, which clearly they were in the 4th quarter and overtime.

But what happened against UNC? Well, the 3rd quarter you speak of, UNC took the opening kickoff and scored. Inexcusable, but Jaden Davis gets torched, and we're down 21-17. We hold the ball for about 2 minutes, and fumble. Defense right back on the field. But they actually get a stop! Bang! We're in business! Oops, interception on the first play, defense right back on the field, this time on its own 23 yard line. Touchdown. Now the game is slipping through our fingers, the defense is exhausted. So what do we do on offense? 3 and out in 2 minutes. Ballgame.

So the defense was inexcusable, no doubt. I just wish we could've seen what happened if the offense didn't turn the ball over on literal back to back plays in the beginning of the 3rd quarter.
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That 3Q looks drastically different if you don’t have those two turnovers. It’s more like a 7-10 point differential at the most, instead of 21.

Guidry got out coached on that first drive, with a mistake mixed in from the secondary. The rest was just a **** show. Defense was gassed and had no chance from then on.
 
CaneLife93 said:
Drake Maye’s state line wasn’t impressive either that first half. He was like 9-20 that first half. I believe we were driving and just crossed the 50 before the botched snap and fumble.
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He completed 51.5% of his passes for the entire game. Only 8.3 YPA. He was sacked 5 times, and very easily could have thrown a pick 6 AND had a fumble in his own endzone recovered for a TD, or at least a safety (although that wasn't his fault, Bain just gang raped the LT and Maye had no chance).

He didn't play great overall, even with the steamroll job in the 2nd half.

Where it got really ugly was in the run game after the defense got tired in the 2nd half. IMO our lack of depth really showed up in that game. It's imperative we don't have that same script against FSU. I think we can hold up on defense just fine, but probably not if we have to defend short fields and our offense has back to back to back drives of 4 plays, 1 play, 3 plays. None of which result in points.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
He completed 51.5% of his passes for the entire game. Only 8.3 YPA. He was sacked 5 times, and very easily could have thrown a pick 6 AND had a fumble in his own endzone recovered for a TD, or at least a safety (although that wasn't his fault, Bain just gang raped the LT and Maye had no chance).

He didn't play great overall, even with the steamroll job in the 2nd half.

Where it got really ugly was in the run game after the defense got tired in the 2nd half. IMO our lack of depth really showed up in that game. It's imperative we don't have that same script against FSU. I think we can hold up on defense just fine, but probably not if we have to defend short fields and our offense has back to back to back drives of 4 plays, 1 play, 3 plays. None of which result in points.
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Yeah, totally agree. Sometime meathead football is a good thing if you have the OL to control the LOS and TOP. If we’re successful running the ball that game that’ll help in all different areas tactically, imo. Keep Keon off the field and break down their spirit.

It’ll take 31 or so points to win this game, maybe more with how explosive they can be.
 
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