Well, well, well....

[ThomasM]

He’s similar to Ed orgeron
Can’t win unless he has elite talent everywhere
No real skill except recruiting
Mario needs to recruit that level of talent to win
And so far his recruiting is not good enough

It will never be good enough to win consistently. Never.

The talent advantage Mario needs to win will NEVER happen. Think about it. Even if he somehow out recruits Georgia and Alabama, he won't do so on such a scale that he'd be able to simply out talent them. FFS, he can't out talent Duke or MTSU. How is he going to both out talent AND outcoach elite teams? He's not.

 

[jsy]

It will never be good enough to win consistently. Never.

The talent advantage Mario needs to win will NEVER happen. Think about it. Even if he somehow out recruits Georgia and Alabama, he won't do so on such a scale that he'd be able to simply out talent them. FFS, he can't out talent Duke or MTSU. How is he going to both out talent AND outcoach elite teams? He's not.

Exactly that’s why we screwed
Embrace the suck for the next 5 years

 

[hoops156]

It will never be good enough to win consistently. Never.

The talent advantage Mario needs to win will NEVER happen. Think about it. Even if he somehow out recruits Georgia and Alabama, he won't do so on such a scale that he'd be able to simply out talent them. FFS, he can't out talent Duke or MTSU. How is he going to both out talent AND outcoach elite teams? He's not.

were never gonna out recruit Bama w Saban or UGA w smart. not gonna happen and it has nothing to do w Mario.

 

[ThomasM]

Exactly that’s why we screwed
Embrace the suck for the next 5 years

Oh I am laughing at him, UM, and everyone who wanted him as a coach. Especially those who defended his horrible losses to Utah. No, they CELEBRATED those losses, because it meant we might get him.

I wanted several other coaches over him, but even I thought he'd be an upgrade over Diaz. Man, was I ever wrong. He's as clueless now as he was when Alabama was running by him in the Sugar Bowl.

 

[ThomasM]

were never gonna out recruit Bama w Saban or UGA w smart. not gonna happen and it has nothing to do w Mario.

That's my point. Mario needs a HUGE advantage to compete week in and week out. He'll never get that. That's my point. Why did we hire a guy that can recruit, but not coach? He will never out recruit those teams. And IF he does, it won't be by enough to make the talent gap so great he can simply out talent them.

Miami needs a smart coach that can actually coach, and out-scheme teams. Mario aint it.

 

[Notsince1985]

Kiffin's team looked amazing in Baton Rouge today

 

[hoops156]

Kiffin's team looked amazing in Baton Rouge today

yeah sucks. theyre now 7-1 after importing a new team and replacing key coaching moves. over in Eugene, Oregon has now hit over 40+ points six times which is doubled the amount of times they did it under Mario and are now 6-1 with at the min 2 top 25 teams. in Miami, were now 3-4 w two blowout losses to MTSU and Duke at home. we've blamed every single player on the roster but the ****** w a headset

 

[Notsince1985]

yeah sucks. theyre now 7-1 after importing a new team and replacing key coaching moves. over in Eugene, Oregon has now hit over 40+ points six times which is doubled the amount of times they did it under Mario and are now 6-1 with at the min 2 top 25 teams. in Miami, were now 3-4 w two blowout losses to MTSU and Duke at home. we've blamed every single player on the roster but the ****** w a headset

Ole Miss will win 9 games. That's Lane's ceiling. I'm not a Mario slurper, but Lane ain't Jesus.

 

[hoops156]

Ole Miss will win 9 games. That's Lane's ceiling. I'm not a Mario slurper, but Lane ain't Jesus.

so when he won 10 last year?

 

[Notsince1985]

so when he won 10 last year?

Crown him. He was 10-3.

 

[hoops156]

Crown him. He was 10-3.

cool ill stick with 3-4 and getting out coached and out played by everyone w a thready pulse

 

[Notsince1985]

cool ill stick with 3-4 and getting out coached and out played by everyone w a thready pulse

Lane wouldn't be winning 10+ wins this year here, but whatever.

 

[hoops156]

Lane wouldn't be winning 10+ wins this year here, but whatever.

I disagree. wed at least beat duke and MTSU w lane. that at min gets us to 5-2.

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

The offseason Cristobal suckfest was the most despicable thing I’ve ever seen as a Miami fan. 90% of the fanbase was ready to anoint the guy for the same reasons they crowned Diaz, just in a slightly different way. Cristobal was doing the fake tough guy stuff and the fans and media ate it up....

35-12 at Oregon over four years, two Pac-12 titles, two double-digit win seasons, a Rose Bowl win and some monster recruiting hauls—compared to a fraudulent little Napoleon defensive coordinator (who got whacked on the ground at Penn State the same way he did at Texas years before he even got to Miami).

Sit the next couple of plays out if you're really comparing enthusiasm for a proven coach like Cristobal to the dong-fest in 2019 when Diaz was hired; hyping his stupid chain game, Twitter crypticness, WWE tackling dummies (with '7-6' on the chests) getting into the fracas with the players all while chomping cigars and floating into a booster event on an 80' yacht like he was the second-coming of Tony Montana.

Incredible how the legend replaces reality in such a short time with so many in this fan base. Anyone with a brain didn't overhype Mario and knew what kind of mess he was walking into. It's the clown who screamed "We back!" and "15-0!" as if there's some just-add-water approach to rebuilding this thing.

Let's see where Cristobal has this thing in October 2024, not October 2022—after he inherited a complete abortion of a program.

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

Lane wouldn't be winning 10+ wins this year here, but whatever.

Lane Train just getting smoked by Muh-Family Brian Kelly in Baton Rouge; an LSU team that lost its opener to Florida State.

Rebels and the infallible Kiffin outscored 28-0 in second half of a 45-20 beat down.....

 

[hoops156]

Lane Train just getting smoked by Muh-Family Brian Kelly in Baton Rouge; an LSU team that lost its opener to Florida State.

Rebels and the infallible Kiffin outscored 28-0 in second half of a 45-20 beat down.....

after lane won 10 in year 2 and had to replace a tn of his roster and staff and had them 7-0 ranked in the top 10 playing in the toughest conference in football. he'd smoke the **** out of your Columbus boo thang. youre also an idiot if you dont think the circles BK would do to Mario in a coaching circuit.

 

[ZCanes]

Totally made up.

We see not all kids go to the highest bidder and then if the offers is the same what do you think is the deciding factor?

The kids we need to get into this program to turn this thing around in a big way are going to be the kind of kids that are recruited hard by the best programs in the nation. And not a few of them here and there, but the majority of our recruiting classes, 3-4 years in a row.

We have been terrible and continue to be terrible, so to begin with it’s an uphill battle to win recruiting wars against programs that haven’t been a dumpster fire for 20 years but actually winning.

Marios skill as a recruiter could have maybe overcome that prior to the legal money being thrown around in this NIL era.

Now, not only are we trying to pull kids away from programs that are winning, which is hard enough to begin with, but now those better programs can legally pay them. Before you may have been able to pull kids away from better programs with recent success because of Mario’s charisma, but now they can also take a legal paycheck at the better program. It makes that decision by a recruit to take a chance on a lesser program even harder to make. Which means it happens less. We need playmakers in bulk.

I just don’t see a guy that is purely a recruiter in this day and age, at a program that is not winning, pull 3-4 consecutive incredible classes with way more hits than misses, which is what it will take to turn this around.

That’s a very thin margin for error. The other route we could have taken is you hire a guy that’s maybe a good rather than great recruiter but also a schematic guru that can elevate talent and do more with less via coaching. That means quicker on field success and winning brings in recruits via on field success + NIL.

Mario really doesn’t bring anything to the table aside from recruiting. Less margin for error. Wrong choice in 2022.

 

[SouthsideAtl]

Mario fan boys MIA.

 

[SinCityCane]

Mario is a good recruiter BUT he was doing it at already established and winning programs.

What scares me the most about Mario going forward is that we are now in the NIL era. College football is a very different world now with NIL.

Mario’s greatest strength as a coach is as a recruiter, not as a schematic Xs & Os type of coach. His only redeeming quality is that he can recruit. But now we have NIL, and being a recruiting “guru” is now not as important. His greatest strength has now been at least somewhat neutralized.

With NIL a coach who is a B level recruiter, but who is an excellent schematic and game day coach can now recruit at an A level because of NIL. Aside from recruiting, Mario doesn’t do much for a team. He’s not a former coordinator, he was a position coach. I just don’t see how Mario builds a program when his biggest skill doesn’t make as much of an impact in this new era.

He may very well be a dinasaur, a guy who’s built for the previous era of college football, but not for todays NIL world.

We made a mistake and should have hired Kiffen. He’s an actual coach who can make the team better with his football mind and recruiting would come via NIL and on field success.

We finally decided to invest real money into the program and grabbed a guy that’s not built for this new age of college football. Like an NBA team finally investing in a player but it’s an old school big man that doesn’t fit into todays game.

Good points. I was starting to wonder myself if a "program building" coach like Mario would have been a better hire after a few years under a strong X's & O's coach that can do more with the talent currently on the roster. With the amount of money being put into the program, a strong season this year was crucial for our success in the near future. Now we're "rebuilding" while other programs with new hires at HC are evolving, and it feels like a bad dream.

 

[Tony Perps]

35-12 at Oregon over four years, two Pac-12 titles, two double-digit win seasons, a Rose Bowl win and some monster recruiting hauls—compared to a fraudulent little Napoleon defensive coordinator (who got whacked on the ground at Penn State the same way he did at Texas years before he even got to Miami).

Sit the next couple of plays out if you're really comparing enthusiasm for a proven coach like Cristobal to the dong-fest in 2019 when Diaz was hired; hyping his stupid chain game, Twitter crypticness, WWE tackling dummies (with '7-6' on the chests) getting into the fracas with the players all while chomping cigars and floating into a booster event on an 80' yacht like he was the second-coming of Tony Montana.

Incredible how the legend replaces reality in such a short time with so many in this fan base. Anyone with a brain didn't overhype Mario and knew what kind of mess he was walking into. It's the clown who screamed "We back!" and "15-0!" as if there's some just-add-water approach to rebuilding this thing.

Let's see where Cristobal has this thing in October 2024, not October 2022—after he inherited a complete abortion of a program.

These are the types of insane posts that just completely ignore reality. Wario won the Pac-12 fair and square once with Justin Herbert. Cool. Good season. His second pac-12 "title" came after he went 4-3 and another Pac-12 team couldn't play in the championship game because of covid. It's another vibes-based coach evaluation. Some of us (me for instance) actually watched Wario at at Oregon and didn't see anything impressive that would translate to success at a much lesser program. He was getting by because Oregon is a top 10-15 program whose recruiting pool isn't in SEC country.

A "proven coach" can actually make the team better. He's getting paid to coach the team and win games. Wario is failing to cover the spread against teams like MTSU by 34 points. It's a shocking level of incompetence. You don't get two years to just **** around and get blown out at home by atrocious teams. Coaches come in and make bad teams better all the time. Only at Miami is this viewed as some very confusing concept, because our fans act like teenage girls at a Backstreet Boys show in 1999 whenever we hire a new coach.