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nystateofmind said:
Richt needs to bring in someone on the offense side and give them free reign like he's done on the defensive side with Manny. If that happens, combined with Richt's impressive recruiting and CEO skills, I think we can be a national championship contender year in and year out. If it doesn't, 10-2 will be our ceiling.
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When Richt called plays at Georgia (2001-06) they averaged 10.2 wins per season.

When he didn't (2007-15) they averaged 9.4 wins.
 
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Doppelganger said:
nystateofmind said:
Our routes are simplistic. There is zero creativity.
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This is fanboy-speak at it's best.

It's one of the first things I look for when deciding whether to dismiss somebody out of hand.

The best teams in America don't win because they're so complicated and sophisticated. They win because they scheme well, block it well and execute crisply.

Creativity is something a goofball complains about.
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So all your poRst about Jeff Thomas is bs, but i do agree with this post.
 
nystateofmind said:
Richt still needs to hire an OC.

The play calling was atrocious the first three quarters.
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After watching 5 games I have come to believe our small playbook and the lack of imagination is strictly because Richt just doesn’t trust rosier
 
CTCANE said:
The only thing that is irrefutable is you're an idiot.


nystateofmind said:
Doppelganger said:
nystateofmind said:
Didn't know Jon Richt had a CIS account.
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This is what people do when they don't have anything to say.

We're 5-0 because our head coach has been able to cover up a lot of our deficiencies.
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Richt is a good head coach.

He is a below average OC. The evidence is irrefutable.
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Says the guy who defended Golden until the end and still defends Jim Morris.
 
I fully admit that I don't have the football x's and o's acumen of a lot of people here, but nystateofmind comes across like Forrest Gump when he tries to talk about this stuff.
 
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nystateofmind said:
Jaromir Jagr said:
I fully admit that I don't have the football x's and o's acumen of a lot of people here, but nystateofmind comes across like Forrest Gump when he tries to talk about this stuff.
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LOL.

Refute one point of mine, Jaromir.
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Well, it's not about your points necessarily, it's how simple you think all of this is. Honestly, it's the kind of stuff that guys say while sitting around the bar. I see it in baseball too, because I do have the knowledge over there. While you know I'm not a Morris guy, some of the in-game criticism is just absurd.
 
Half this site doesn't give a sht about actually winning games, they just want everything to be pretty. Basically, anything that isn't the 2001 Canes is a failure.

Personally I'm enjoying the fact that we won when several other (possibly better) teams did not. We don't look like a top 10 team a lot of the time, but we win and in the end that's what determines who's good. You guys get so wrapped up in teams being good because they look the best, or they have that offense you think is fun, but at the end of the day wins are all that matters.

I don't think we're as good as Clempson, but we're undefeated and they aren't so they can suck it. They don't get extra points for looking like the best team and we don't lose points for looking like we're about to lose every **** game no matter who we play. GT doesn't get anything for coming so close and VT doesn't get anything for losing to a good team. As long as we're undefeated, we're the best.


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Doppelganger said:
nystateofmind said:
Richt needs to bring in someone on the offense side and give them free reign like he's done on the defensive side with Manny. If that happens, combined with Richt's impressive recruiting and CEO skills, I think we can be a national championship contender year in and year out. If it doesn't, 10-2 will be our ceiling.
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When Richt called plays at Georgia (2001-06) they averaged 10.2 wins per season.

When he didn't (2007-15) they averaged 9.4 wins.
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Before I post the stuff below, I actually think Richt can be much better if he fixed some obvious things and got some help. I don't think there is anything wrong with getting help; some of the best coaches (Saban) get help. Saban actually is a great defensive coach but he still goes out and gets great coaches to help him call plays and make decisions (especially personnel).

A few things:

1. I think the difference in wins has to do with the quality of coaching in the SEC and when he coached against them. For example, Richt was 2-0 against Bama but then when Saban came in 2007, he went 1-3 against Bama.

[The records below represent Richt's record v. these teams]

Against UF:

2001: Spurrier 0-1
2002-04: Zook 1-2
2005-10: Meyer 1-5
2011-15: Muschump 3-1

Against LSU:

2001-04: Saban 1-1 (Doesn't play against LSU in 2001 and 2002)
2005-15: Miles 3-2 (Doesn't play against LSU in 2006, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2015)

Alabama

2001-02: Franchione 1-0 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2001)
2003-06: Shula 1-0 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2004, 2005 and 2006)
2006-15: Saban 1-3 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014

2. If you want to talk about the offense, then it is clear they did better on offense when Richt wasn't calling plays.

[Average Per Game Stats]

Richt as the OC

2001

Total Offense: 433
Scoring Offense: 29

2002

Total Offense: 385
Scoring Offense: 32

2003

Total Offense: 380
Scoring Offense: 27

2004

Total Offense: 405
Scoring Offense: 28

2005

Total Offense: 391
Scoring Offense: 30

2006

Total Offense: 312
Scoring Offense: 25

Average with Richt as the OC

Total Offense (avg): 384
Scoring Offense (avg): 28.5



Bobo as the OC

2007

Total Offense: 376
Scoring Offense: 33

2008

Total Offense: 426
Scoring Offense: 31

2009

Total Offense: 362
Scoring Offense: 29

2010

Total Offense: 385
Scoring Offense: 32

2011

Total Offense: 409
Scoring Offense: 32

2012

Total Offense: 468
Scoring Offense: 38


2013

Total Offense: 484
Scoring Offense: 37


2014

Total Offense: 459
Scoring Offense: 41

Average with Bobo as the OC

Total Offense (avg): 421
Scoring Offense (avg): 34.1

Source Here: NCAA Statistics

cfbstats.com - 2014 National


3. I think it is clear the serious issues are on offense. The defense is NOT perfect. They have issues too. They're clearly doing a pretty good job and look at what they have done during ACC play (this year):

Duke

Points Allowed: 6
Yards Allowed: 349
Turnovers Forced: 2
Sacks: 6
Tackles For Loss: 11

FSU

Points Allowed: 20
Yards Allowed: 406
Turnovers Forced: 2
Sacks: 4
Tackles For Loss: 9

Georgia Tech

Points Allowed: 17 (that onside kick is not on the D)
Yards Allowed: 289 (Before today they averaged 479 YPG and 36.5 PPG)
Turnovers Forced: 0
Sacks: 2
Tackles For Loss: 7

So in ACC Play (so far) [Per Game Average]

Points Allowed: 14.34
Yards Allowed: 348
Turnovers Forced: 1.34
Sacks: 4
Tackles For Loss: 9


If you're only allowing less than 15 PPG and 350 YPG, it isn't hard to win games.
 
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kryptonite said:
Half this site doesn't give a sht about actually winning games, they just want everything to be pretty. Basically, anything that isn't the 2001 Canes is a failure.

Personally I'm enjoying the fact that we won when several other (possibly better) teams did not. We don't look like a top 10 team a lot of the time, but we win and in the end that's what determines who's good. You guys get so wrapped up in teams being good because they look the best, or they have that offense you think is fun, but at the end of the day wins are all that matters.

I don't think we're as good as Clempson, but we're undefeated and they aren't so they can suck it. They don't get extra points for looking like the best team and we don't lose points for looking like we're about to lose every **** game no matter who we play. GT doesn't get anything for coming so close and VT doesn't get anything for losing to a good team. As long as we're undefeated, we're the best.


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Consigliere said:
Before I post the stuff below, I actually think Richt can be much better if he fixed some obvious things and got some help. I don't think there is anything wrong with getting help; some of the best coaches (Saban) get help. Saban actually is a great defensive coach but he still goes out and gets great coaches to help him call plays and make decisions (especially personnel).

A few things:

1. I think the difference in wins has to do with the quality of coaching in the SEC and when he coached against them. For example, Richt was 2-0 against Bama but then when Saban came in 2007, he went 1-3 against Bama.

[The records below represent Richt's record v. these teams]

Against UF:

2001: Spurrier 0-1
2002-04: Zook 1-2
2005-10: Meyer 1-5
2011-15: Muschump 3-1

Against LSU:

2001-04: Saban 1-1 (Doesn't play against LSU in 2001 and 2002)
2005-15: Miles 3-2 (Doesn't play against LSU in 2006, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2015)

Alabama

2001-02: Franchione 1-0 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2001)
2003-06: Shula 1-0 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2004, 2005 and 2006)
2006-15: Saban 1-3 (Doesn't play against Bama in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014

2. If you want to talk about the offense, then it is clear they did better on offense when Richt wasn't calling plays.

[Average Per Game Stats]

Richt as the OC

2001

Total Offense: 433
Scoring Offense: 29

2002

Total Offense: 385
Scoring Offense: 32

2003

Total Offense: 380
Scoring Offense: 27

2004

Total Offense: 405
Scoring Offense: 28

2005

Total Offense: 391
Scoring Offense: 30

2006

Total Offense: 312
Scoring Offense: 25

Average with Richt as the OC

Total Offense (avg): 384
Scoring Offense (avg): 28.5



Bobo as the OC

2007

Total Offense: 376
Scoring Offense: 33

2008

Total Offense: 426
Scoring Offense: 31

2009

Total Offense: 362
Scoring Offense: 29

2010

Total Offense: 385
Scoring Offense: 32

2011

Total Offense: 409
Scoring Offense: 32

2012

Total Offense: 468
Scoring Offense: 38


2013

Total Offense: 484
Scoring Offense: 37


2014

Total Offense: 459
Scoring Offense: 41

Average with Bobo as the OC

Total Offense (avg): 421
Scoring Offense (avg): 34.1

Source Here: NCAA Statistics

cfbstats.com - 2014 National


3. I think it is clear the serious issues are on offense. The defense is NOT perfect. They have issues too. They're clearly doing a pretty good job and look at what they have done during ACC play (this year):

Duke

Points Allowed: 6
Yards Allowed: 349
Turnovers Forced: 2
Sacks: 6
Tackles For Loss: 11

FSU

Points Allowed: 20
Yards Allowed: 406
Turnovers Forced: 2
Sacks: 4
Tackles For Loss: 9

Georgia Tech

Points Allowed: 17 (that onside kick is not on the D)
Yards Allowed: 289 (Before today they averaged 479 YPG and 36.5 PPG)
Turnovers Forced: 0
Sacks: 2
Tackles For Loss: 7

So in ACC Play (so far) [Per Game Average]

Points Allowed: 14.34
Yards Allowed: 348
Turnovers Forced: 1.34
Sacks: 4
Tackles For Loss: 9


If you're only allowing less than 15 PPG and 350 YPG, it isn't hard to win games.
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My post was a response to somebody who claimed that Richt calling plays would make us a 10-2 team but if he got a new play-caller we could be national champions.

Wishful thinking based on the numbers.
 
A lot of the “new” Canes will never have or know how to have the same feelings us older Canes fans have gotten use to... you Hit Stick, Bust **** and talk ****... better thicken your skin up youngins.... if you really want to know what being a C.A.N.E. Is....
We are definitely headed back to our rightful place atop of CFB... you can just see it happening, we may not get there this year, injures and ****.
But we are so close.... a little more depth (recruiting) we will be back
 
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