Welcome to The U, Terry McCray!!!!

[canestim]

Haters gonna hate Terry, Welcome to the U!

 

[User-4525]

What I don't understand is how people think that just because we offered him justifies him as a prospect. My personal preference aside, Golden & staff have taken kids that haven't panned out. That's why multiple players they signed have transferred. If you think McCray isn't a developmental guy and can step in right away and contribute you're crazy. You either didn't watch the tape or are lying to yourself. McCray to a couple of knowledge people on the site is worse version of Mike Smith (rushing the passer wise). I don't see the true fit to our system. Don't like him as a miami caliber prospect, especially with tight numbers & scholarship reductions. Kid could very well develop and turn into a contributor down the road, so ill reserve full judgement untill then. By no means is this an immediate impact kid

 

[[]_[]nique-31]

What I don't understand is how people think that just because we offered him justifies him as a prospect. My personal preference aside, Golden & staff have taken kids that haven't panned out. That's why multiple players they signed have transferred. If you think McCray isn't a developmental guy and can step in right away and contribute you're crazy. You either didn't watch the tape or are lying to yourself. McCray to a couple of knowledge people on the site is worse version of Mike Smith (rushing the passer wise). I don't see the true fit to our system. Don't like him as a miami caliber prospect, especially with tight numbers & scholarship reductions. Kid could very well develop and turn into a contributor down the road, so ill reserve full judgement untill then. By no means is this an immediate impact kid

Everybody takes kids that dont pan out. McCray is not going to be asked to come in and contribute right away. Our LB depth we are building will allow that . Obviously Al isnt worried about the numbers as long as he gets who HE wants, so neither should we.

 

[rickay]

yawn 2 star... not gonna have an impact

 

[cowboycane]

There are probably 50 prospects in the entire country in a given year that will be asked to make major contributions at major programs. Knocking a recruit because he is "developmental" means you will hate 95% of every class we sign every year.

 

[Plzwork4]

yawn 2 star... not gonna have an impact

I first read your post...next I looked at your rep bar...

You just...might...be serious.?.




















Ahhh f@ck it...negged.

 

[User-4525]

What I don't understand is how people think that just because we offered him justifies him as a prospect. My personal preference aside, Golden & staff have taken kids that haven't panned out. That's why multiple players they signed have transferred. If you think McCray isn't a developmental guy and can step in right away and contribute you're crazy. You either didn't watch the tape or are lying to yourself. McCray to a couple of knowledge people on the site is worse version of Mike Smith (rushing the passer wise). I don't see the true fit to our system. Don't like him as a miami caliber prospect, especially with tight numbers & scholarship reductions. Kid could very well develop and turn into a contributor down the road, so ill reserve full judgement untill then. By no means is this an immediate impact kid

Everybody takes kids that dont pan out. McCray is not going to be asked to come in and contribute right away. Our LB depth we are building will allow that . Obviously Al isnt worried about the numbers as long as he gets who HE wants, so neither should we.

So why is one be bashed for the assumption that this kid won't pan out? Just because we offered him? Which goes back to my original post.

 

[[]_[]nique-31]

What I don't understand is how people think that just because we offered him justifies him as a prospect. My personal preference aside, Golden & staff have taken kids that haven't panned out. That's why multiple players they signed have transferred. If you think McCray isn't a developmental guy and can step in right away and contribute you're crazy. You either didn't watch the tape or are lying to yourself. McCray to a couple of knowledge people on the site is worse version of Mike Smith (rushing the passer wise). I don't see the true fit to our system. Don't like him as a miami caliber prospect, especially with tight numbers & scholarship reductions. Kid could very well develop and turn into a contributor down the road, so ill reserve full judgement untill then. By no means is this an immediate impact kid

Everybody takes kids that dont pan out. McCray is not going to be asked to come in and contribute right away. Our LB depth we are building will allow that . Obviously Al isnt worried about the numbers as long as he gets who HE wants, so neither should we.

So why is one be bashed for the assumption that this kid won't pan out? Just because we offered him? Which goes back to my original post.

I would guess because you lean more towards the idea that he wont pan out before even giving him a chance......that may be it

 

[dg151]

There are probably 50 prospects in the entire country in a given year that will be asked to make major contributions at major programs. Knocking a recruit because he is "developmental" means you will hate 95% of every class we sign every year.

This needs to be posted in basically every prospect thread on this site. Every HS player is a ******* prospect, that's the entire point of player development and coaching.

McCray has nice size with a frame to get bigger, solid movement skills and a really nice first step/snap anticipation. It's amazing how every single commit gets either amazing reviews or complete trash, sheep mentally ruins everything. Vast majority know nearly nothing about this kid, what the coaches plan for him or what the motivation for taking his commitment is but you're already declaring it a wasted scholarship and calling out the staffs LB recruiting on kids they recruited for 2 months and completely ignoring the rest of their careers of succcesful LB development.

This obviously doesn't apply to every poster, as some have valid arguments against McCray (he's not a superstar prospect, but he is a nice #3/#4 LB prospect and has a niche in the defense as a blitzing Sam backer and some potential as a thumping inside backer), but the sheep nonsense on this site is ******* ridiculous. Don't blindly bash a player (as well as don't blindly follow the coaches), make your own evaluations. What the **** is even the point of posting if you're just reiterating what the five people before you said?

 

[User-4525]

What I don't understand is how people think that just because we offered him justifies him as a prospect. My personal preference aside, Golden & staff have taken kids that haven't panned out. That's why multiple players they signed have transferred. If you think McCray isn't a developmental guy and can step in right away and contribute you're crazy. You either didn't watch the tape or are lying to yourself. McCray to a couple of knowledge people on the site is worse version of Mike Smith (rushing the passer wise). I don't see the true fit to our system. Don't like him as a miami caliber prospect, especially with tight numbers & scholarship reductions. Kid could very well develop and turn into a contributor down the road, so ill reserve full judgement untill then. By no means is this an immediate impact kid

Everybody takes kids that dont pan out. McCray is not going to be asked to come in and contribute right away. Our LB depth we are building will allow that . Obviously Al isnt worried about the numbers as long as he gets who HE wants, so neither should we.

So why is one be bashed for the assumption that this kid won't pan out? Just because we offered him? Which goes back to my original post.

I would guess because you lean more towards the idea that he wont pan out before even giving him a chance......that may be it

So by your logic we can't even put forth the idea that kid isn't good? Every kid must be worth the scholly and will contribute in some way because our staff offered him right. Then in two/three years if he transfers out what then? It was the kids fault for not working not the staff? Or maybe it was because they just missed on a evaluation like they did with jacoby briscoe for example. I don't understand why everyone can't just say their opinion on the player. What'd you think of his highlights if I may ask you....did you even watch them?


I'm not gonna keep going back and forth when I know you won't open your mind so ill just say this. McCray could very well contribute at UM. Does that mean it will happen? No. Ill just reserve my judgement but there's nothing wrong with posters stating their opinion. Owens and young are beasts @ LB so our haul is good right now. Just because I look at things objectively doesn't mean I don't trust our staff

 

[canesman]

His SPARQ combine numbers from Jan 5, 2013 were terrible.

6'2" 194
4.99 40
4.66 shuttle

Not sure i understand taking this kid so early.

 

[Cribby]

I love how you're considered a bust if you haven't produced by your Soph year, fanbase is hilarious.

 

[Cribby]

His SPARQ combine numbers from Jan 5, 2013 were terrible.

6'2" 194
4.99 40
4.66 shuttle

Not sure i understand taking this kid so early.

Go look at Jarvis Jones nfl combine numbers.

 

[[]_[]nique-31]

What I don't understand is how people think that just because we offered him justifies him as a prospect. My personal preference aside, Golden & staff have taken kids that haven't panned out. That's why multiple players they signed have transferred. If you think McCray isn't a developmental guy and can step in right away and contribute you're crazy. You either didn't watch the tape or are lying to yourself. McCray to a couple of knowledge people on the site is worse version of Mike Smith (rushing the passer wise). I don't see the true fit to our system. Don't like him as a miami caliber prospect, especially with tight numbers & scholarship reductions. Kid could very well develop and turn into a contributor down the road, so ill reserve full judgement untill then. By no means is this an immediate impact kid

Everybody takes kids that dont pan out. McCray is not going to be asked to come in and contribute right away. Our LB depth we are building will allow that . Obviously Al isnt worried about the numbers as long as he gets who HE wants, so neither should we.

So why is one be bashed for the assumption that this kid won't pan out? Just because we offered him? Which goes back to my original post.

I would guess because you lean more towards the idea that he wont pan out before even giving him a chance......that may be it

So by your logic we can't even put forth the idea that kid isn't good? Every kid must be worth the scholly and will contribute in some way because our staff offered him right. Then in two/three years if he transfers out what then? It was the kids fault for not working not the staff? Or maybe it was because they just missed on a evaluation like they did with jacoby briscoe for example. I don't understand why everyone can't just say their opinion on the player. What'd you think of his highlights if I may ask you....did you even watch them?


I'm not gonna keep going back and forth when I know you won't open your mind so ill just say this. McCray could very well contribute at UM. Does that mean it will happen? No. Ill just reserve my judgement but there's nothing wrong with posters stating their opinion. Owens and young are beasts @ LB so our haul is good right now. Just because I look at things objectively doesn't mean I don't trust our staff

Quick first step off the ball, didnt have to fight off many blocks in the film, so Im not sure how good he is at that, has nice size and gets to the ball carrier, didnt see any pass defense in the film but is a converted DB so they must be decent especially if he stated thats one of the things the coaching staff likes about him. As far as my logic goes, im not about to condemn any of these kids as busts or reaches when the evaluation process isn't an exact science and before our staff gets a hold of them. If he transfers in two or three years it could mean we had a line of players that developed better before him, we signed immediate impact players after him or he wanted a different situation. No he doesnt jump off the limited film he has but a lot of ppl on here act as if KIDS cant be developed, especially south florida kids whom everyone knows has a lot of unrefined talent. And Jacoby Briscoe was strictly a depth guy picked up when Golden was scrambling to fill a class....low risk.....small pond to fish in

 

[bobbydigius]

There are probably 50 prospects in the entire country in a given year that will be asked to make major contributions at major programs. Knocking a recruit because he is "developmental" means you will hate 95% of every class we sign every year.

This needs to be posted in basically every prospect thread on this site. Every HS player is a ****ing prospect, that's the entire point of player development and coaching.

McCray has nice size with a frame to get bigger, solid movement skills and a really nice first step/snap anticipation. It's amazing how every single commit gets either amazing reviews or complete trash, sheep mentally ruins everything. Vast majority know nearly nothing about this kid, what the coaches plan for him or what the motivation for taking his commitment is but you're already declaring it a wasted scholarship and calling out the staffs LB recruiting on kids they recruited for 2 months and completely ignoring the rest of their careers of succcesful LB development.

This obviously doesn't apply to every poster, as some have valid arguments against McCray (he's not a superstar prospect, but he is a nice #3/#4 LB prospect and has a niche in the defense as a blitzing Sam backer and some potential as a thumping inside backer), but the sheep nonsense on this site is ****ing ridiculous. Don't blindly bash a player (as well as don't blindly follow the coaches), make your own evaluations. What the **** is even the point of posting if you're just reiterating what the five people before you said?

I'm with HurricaneGlory on this one but this is a solid response. Most of what you said I would agree, my thing is that while this kid is a decent prospect he is a head scratcher this early on, I felt the same about Mayes and Turner, but there was less info out about those kids than McCray. The questions I have about this kid is that he looks like he lacks speed to play sideline to sideline and his combine numbers back that up. He has a nice frame, but I also realize that when he puts on weight he will probably lose a bit of speed, speed that he already does not have. Now all that would not be the end of the world if he reacted well to plays, but that is the other negative I saw, he isn't that quick with his reaction when a play develops. You combine those two things and there is enough to be concerned about taking him so early.

Now I would agree with you that as a #4 LB in this class he would not be a bad take, but our LB situation is more complex than that. We have a double problem of having a lack of depth and top end talent. I think there is a lot there to be skeptical of this commitment this early. **** even his strength which appears to be rushing the QB is not that great compared to some of the kids we got anyway. We have kids that from the looks of it can get to the QB from that edge rusher position, we need more guys that can cover RBs and TEs.

 

[[]_[]nique-31]

His SPARQ combine numbers from Jan 5, 2013 were terrible.

6'2" 194
4.99 40
4.66 shuttle

Not sure i understand taking this kid so early.

his coach stated he runs a 4.6 and is 6'3 220...........I guess that day wasnt a good day

 

[bobbydigius]

Everybody takes kids that dont pan out. McCray is not going to be asked to come in and contribute right away. Our LB depth we are building will allow that . Obviously Al isnt worried about the numbers as long as he gets who HE wants, so neither should we.

So why is one be bashed for the assumption that this kid won't pan out? Just because we offered him? Which goes back to my original post.

I would guess because you lean more towards the idea that he wont pan out before even giving him a chance......that may be it

So by your logic we can't even put forth the idea that kid isn't good? Every kid must be worth the scholly and will contribute in some way because our staff offered him right. Then in two/three years if he transfers out what then? It was the kids fault for not working not the staff? Or maybe it was because they just missed on a evaluation like they did with jacoby briscoe for example. I don't understand why everyone can't just say their opinion on the player. What'd you think of his highlights if I may ask you....did you even watch them?


I'm not gonna keep going back and forth when I know you won't open your mind so ill just say this. McCray could very well contribute at UM. Does that mean it will happen? No. Ill just reserve my judgement but there's nothing wrong with posters stating their opinion. Owens and young are beasts @ LB so our haul is good right now. Just because I look at things objectively doesn't mean I don't trust our staff

Quick first step off the ball, didnt have to fight off many blocks in the film, so Im not sure how good he is at that, has nice size and gets to the ball carrier, didnt see any pass defense in the film but is a converted DB so they must be decent especially if he stated thats one of the things the coaching staff likes about him. As far as my logic goes, im not about to condemn any of these kids as busts or reaches when the evaluation process isn't an exact science and before our staff gets a hold of them. If he transfers in two or three years it could mean we had a line of players that developed better before him, we signed immediate impact players after him or he wanted a different situation. No he doesnt jump off the limited film he has but a lot of ppl on here act as if KIDS cant be developed, especially south florida kids whom everyone knows has a lot of unrefined talent. And Jacoby Briscoe was strictly a depth guy picked up when Golden was scrambling to fill a class....low risk.....small pond to fish in

Homie, Briscoe was a 2012 kid not a 2011 kid.

 

[[]_[]nique-31]

So why is one be bashed for the assumption that this kid won't pan out? Just because we offered him? Which goes back to my original post.

I would guess because you lean more towards the idea that he wont pan out before even giving him a chance......that may be it

So by your logic we can't even put forth the idea that kid isn't good? Every kid must be worth the scholly and will contribute in some way because our staff offered him right. Then in two/three years if he transfers out what then? It was the kids fault for not working not the staff? Or maybe it was because they just missed on a evaluation like they did with jacoby briscoe for example. I don't understand why everyone can't just say their opinion on the player. What'd you think of his highlights if I may ask you....did you even watch them?


I'm not gonna keep going back and forth when I know you won't open your mind so ill just say this. McCray could very well contribute at UM. Does that mean it will happen? No. Ill just reserve my judgement but there's nothing wrong with posters stating their opinion. Owens and young are beasts @ LB so our haul is good right now. Just because I look at things objectively doesn't mean I don't trust our staff

Quick first step off the ball, didnt have to fight off many blocks in the film, so Im not sure how good he is at that, has nice size and gets to the ball carrier, didnt see any pass defense in the film but is a converted DB so they must be decent especially if he stated thats one of the things the coaching staff likes about him. As far as my logic goes, im not about to condemn any of these kids as busts or reaches when the evaluation process isn't an exact science and before our staff gets a hold of them. If he transfers in two or three years it could mean we had a line of players that developed better before him, we signed immediate impact players after him or he wanted a different situation. No he doesnt jump off the limited film he has but a lot of ppl on here act as if KIDS cant be developed, especially south florida kids whom everyone knows has a lot of unrefined talent. And Jacoby Briscoe was strictly a depth guy picked up when Golden was scrambling to fill a class....low risk.....small pond to fish in

Homie, Briscoe was a 2012 kid not a 2011 kid.

Touche but again everyone is not going to pan out and it wasnt because of his talent, it was because of his work ethic. Plus who else did we have a legit chance at grabbing at DT that year. The way things were run at UM by Golden after year one, Im sure are different going into year 3. Still, strictly a depth guy in my opinion.

 

[RiDLer80]

Still want Smothers.

 

[canesman]

i tend to believe combine numbers more than what a kid or his coach say.

BTW I run a 4.4