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As always, these are only numbers from FBS vs FBS competition. Still a lot of very wonky metrics at teams have played both small sample sizes and very imbalanced schedules to this point, but we're starting to normalize a bit.

Offense:

Yards per play: 20th (6.73 YPP)
Yards per game: 22nd (457.5 YPG)
Points per game: 20th (38.0 PPG)
Passing yards per game: 25th (288.0 YPG)
Passing completion percentage: 4th (75.0%)
Passing yards per attempt: 11th (9.6 YPA)
Passer rating: 9th (176.47)
Passing TDs: 18th (5 TDs)
Rushing yards per game: 46th (169.5 YPG)
Rushing yards per attempt: 47th (4.46 YPA)
Rushing TDs: 29th (5)
Sacks given up per game: 24th (1 per game)
First Downs per game: 25th (23.5 per game)
3rd down conversion %: 33rd (45.83%)
4th down conversion %: 31st (75%, 3 for 4 on the season)
TFLs allowed per game: 3rd (2.00 per game)
Red Zone TD %: 23rd (78% TD rate, 7 TDs in 9 chances)
Red Zone Scoring %: 58th (8 scores in 9 chances)
Field goal %: 1st (3 for 3)
PAT %: 1st (16 for 16)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 47th (32)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 37th (11)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 59th (4)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 77th (1)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 37th (1)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 59th (0)
70+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 59th (0)


Defense:

Yards per play allowed: 48th (5.13 YPP)
Yards per game allowed: 40th (323.0 YPG)
Points per game allowed: 33rd (18.0 PPG)
Passing yards per game allowed: 96th (256.5 YPG)
Passing completion percentage allowed: 52nd (60.6%)
Passing yards per attempt: 71st (7.2 YPA)
Passer rating allowed: 65th (129.56)
Rushing yards per game allowed: 10th (66.5 YPG) (66.5 would be the best by any team since 2021 Wisconsin)
Rushing yards per attempt allowed: 12th (2.42 YPA) (2.42 would've been 2nd in the country last year)
Sacks per game: 39th (2.5 sacks per game)
3rd down % allowed: 72nd (39.2% allowed)
4th down % allowed: 1st (0%, opponents 0/2 on 4th down)
Red Zone td % allowed: 77th (100% allowed -- 4 TDs in 6 chances)
Red Zone Scoring % allowed: 59th (83% allowed -- 5 scores in 6 chances)
Punting: 60th (43.75 Yard average)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 36th (21)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 57th (8)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 87th (5)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 90th (3)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 95th (2)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 79th (1)


Team Stats:

Penalties: 101st (7.5 penalties per game)
Penalty yards: 93rd (60 Yards per game)
Turnover margin: 23rd (+1 per game -- 4 takeaways, 2 giveaways)
Time of possession: 15th (34:59 per game)
Number of offensive plays: (Avg 68 plays per game)

Takeaways:

The offensive explosion happened. I felt we didn't even play great, and we wound up with 205 rushing yards and 371 passing yards.

Number of games between 2016 and 2023 (8 seasons) that Miami has had 200+ yards rushing and 300+ yards passing against an FBS school? Four. Toledo in 2017, FSU in 2020, Duke in 2020, Temple in 2023.

Number of games between the start of 2024 and now (total of 12 games) that Miami has had 200+ yards rushing and 300+ yards passing against a P4 school? Three.

Hello, Shannon Dawson with a good QB behind a Mario Cristobal/Alex Mirabal OL.

I won't get too much into all the stats this week, because nobody else has played 2 ranked teams as their only 2 FBS games, so this will continue to normalize. But we're starting to see the blueprint we all got used to last year morphed with what we thought we'd see this year. A very good offense, with a very good QB, who will be less boom/bust than Cam, and less explosive, while continuing to run the ball well, never take negative plays, and hold the ball for a long time. We're averaging almost 36 minutes time of possession, we've allowed a TOTAL of 4 negative plays in 2 games against ranked teams, we're in the Top 20 in basically every single category, but we're averaging less explosives than last year, hence the reason we're 20th and not #1. As many of us said, the offense *should* be championship good, again. This team will go as far as the defense allows it to. Well, through 2 games, that's holding true. The offense has been outstanding (I have no idea how we hang onto Shannon Dawson after this year, by the way, but that's for another thread). And the defense, while the numbers aren't great yet, has been as advertised overall.

We are still having an issue against explosive plays, much like last year. But I don't feel like it's due to a lack of communication, like last year. The 2 long passes they hit, both were really just excellent plays by the QB. One on a scramble drill, the other was a perfect throw and a great catch. We are currently #24 in total defensive EPA, and #32 in EPA/play. I think we all said if we could just get into the top 30 on defense, we can be really scary. So far, so good. Against 2 very good teams.

The run defense has been insane. #10 in success rate against the run. #10 in EPA per play against the run. #6 in total EPA against the run. We just need to continue to work on limiting explosives in the pass game, and we'll be fine.

But this, to me, has been the best team in the country through 3 weeks. We are doing everything well enough to win the ACC and make the playoffs. Only a quarter of the way through the season, and we all know the record to start the years versus finish it over the last several seasons. But the QB play has been insane, the OL is unfair, the backs are running hard, the WRs are making circus catches, we have kids contributing all over, Bain looks like the best player in the country, Mesidor is unblockable on the other side, we have kids who can truly cover in man, we have kids at backer and Safety that are active and can hit.....this team is scary. Let's go play our A game the next 2 times out and win this state....again.
 
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I think we'll move up a bit on the offensive side and settle somewhere around top 15, maybe top 10. But we'll arguably be the most effective offense in the country (elite combination of a strong passing and rushing game).

Defense was the one we all hoped and expected to take a big jump. The numbers are good but it's early in the season so other teams are over-inflated in some categories and will come back down to Earth. Overall, we probably finish as a top 30 defense with the ceiling to potentially be elite.

Everything checks out so far as far as what I think most of us were expecting coming into this season. Obviously the numbers will change but as far as rankings, fully expect both sides of the ball to easily finish as top 25 units.
 
flips said:
Next step on both sides of the ball: create more explosives on offense, limit explosives on defense.
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I think the gator defense is a lot more ND than it is USF. I don't think we'll just bully them to 200+ yards rushing, but they're 115th in the country in sacks. I expect our offense to hum along nicely. Maybe not 590 yards, but we're going to drop 30+ on their domes. If we can limit the explosives from that UiF offense, we should win by 2 scores.

They only have 6 plays in 2 games of 20+ yards. Make them run a lot of plays and they'll shoot themselves in the foot, they are so poorly coached.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I think the gator defense is a lot more ND than it is USF. I don't think we'll just bully them to 200+ yards rushing, but they're 115th in the country in sacks. I expect our offense to hum along nicely. Maybe not 590 yards, but we're going to drop 30+ on their domes. If we can limit the explosives from that UiF offense, we should win by 2 scores.

They only have 6 plays in 2 games of 20+ yards. Make them run a lot of plays and they'll shoot themselves in the foot, they are so poorly coached.
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Yeah if we can run on them inside from the jump they have no chance.

Not sure there's much historic precedence for a QB who threw 5 INTs in his last 45ish attempts in a single game and is the unquestioned starter in the next game, and, I've said this a couple times already, would be shocked if Napier lets Lagway sling the ball around like he did that last two games. Guess it's possible since Napier is a moron. They will run a lot with Baugh & Lagway. Think they hunt for explosives trying to get VB3 (Baugh too) matched up with a LBer in space. Poss/prob they let Lagway chuck a few bombs when they're behind down and distance - punts essentially if and when they get picked.

Perhaps I'm overrating UF, but I think with merely competent coaching and QB play they'd be 3-0 right now. Fact that we're only 7.5 favs at home suggests there a plenty of folks who believe UF is a lot better than their record shows. Poorly coached and poorly quarterbacked teams tend to continue to find ways to underperform, often in creative and hilarious ways.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I think the gator defense is a lot more ND than it is USF. I don't think we'll just bully them to 200+ yards rushing, but they're 115th in the country in sacks. I expect our offense to hum along nicely. Maybe not 590 yards, but we're going to drop 30+ on their domes. If we can limit the explosives from that UiF offense, we should win by 2 scores.

They only have 6 plays in 2 games of 20+ yards. Make them run a lot of plays and they'll shoot themselves in the foot, they are so poorly coached.
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I would suggest taking a really quick overview of LSU's offensive stats in all 3 of their games. Clemson's D hasn't met expectations either. I am willing to bet, you come away thinking, maybe UF's defense isn't that good. I don't think I have ever seen a good defense without a pass rush. It's early in the week, but I am starting to lean towards we bully them.
 
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Field goal %: 1st (3 for 3)

Always thought a botched snap on a field goal counted as a missed field goal. Guess it makes sense as the kicker never made an actual kick.
 
Cane30 said:
I would suggest taking a really quick overview of LSU's offensive stats in all 3 of their games. Clemson's D hasn't met expectations either. I am willing to bet, you come away thinking, maybe UF's defense isn't that good. I don't think I have ever seen a good defense without a pass rush. It's early in the week, but I am starting to lean towards we bully them.
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I don’t think they’re good. I meant just from a size perspective. Like Danny mentioned in his thread about the game, it was a physical beating. We are just bigger, stronger, and better than USF. They’re a G5 team. A good one, but they ain’t us.

The gator does have some kids on defense that’ll play in the league. But we’re still gonna smack em around.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
As always, these are only numbers from FBS vs FBS competition. Still a lot of very wonky metrics at teams have played both small sample sizes and very imbalanced schedules to this point, but we're starting to normalize a bit.

Offense:

Yards per play: 20th (6.73 YPP)
Yards per game: 22nd (457.5 YPG)
Points per game: 20th (38.0 PPG)
Passing yards per game: 25th (288.0 YPG)
Passing completion percentage: 4th (75.0%)
Passing yards per attempt: 11th (9.6 YPA)
Passer rating: 9th (176.47)
Passing TDs: 18th (5 TDs)
Rushing yards per game: 46th (169.5 YPG)
Rushing yards per attempt: 47th (4.46 YPA)
Rushing TDs: 29th (5)
Sacks given up per game: 24th (1 per game)
First Downs per game: 25th (23.5 per game)
3rd down conversion %: 33rd (45.83%)
4th down conversion %: 31st (75%, 3 for 4 on the season)
TFLs allowed per game: 3rd (2.00 per game)
Red Zone TD %: 23rd (78% TD rate, 7 TDs in 9 chances)
Red Zone Scoring %: 58th (8 scores in 9 chances)
Field goal %: 1st (3 for 3)
PAT %: 1st (16 for 16)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 47th (32)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 37th (11)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 59th (4)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 77th (1)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 37th (1)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 59th (0)
70+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 59th (0)


Defense:

Yards per play allowed: 48th (5.13 YPP)
Yards per game allowed: 40th (323.0 YPG)
Points per game allowed: 33rd (18.0 PPG)
Passing yards per game allowed: 96th (256.5 YPG)
Passing completion percentage allowed: 52nd (60.6%)
Passing yards per attempt: 71st (7.2 YPA)
Passer rating allowed: 65th (129.56)
Rushing yards per game allowed: 10th (66.5 YPG) (66.5 would be the best by any team since 2021 Wisconsin)
Rushing yards per attempt allowed: 12th (2.42 YPA) (2.42 would've been 2nd in the country last year)
Sacks per game: 39th (2.5 sacks per game)
3rd down % allowed: 72nd (39.2% allowed)
4th down % allowed: 1st (0%, opponents 0/2 on 4th down)
Red Zone td % allowed: 77th (100% allowed -- 4 TDs in 6 chances)
Red Zone Scoring % allowed: 59th (83% allowed -- 5 scores in 6 chances)
Punting: 60th (43.75 Yard average)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 36th (21)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 57th (8)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 87th (5)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 90th (3)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 95th (2)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 79th (1)


Team Stats:

Penalties: 101st (7.5 penalties per game)
Penalty yards: 93rd (60 Yards per game)
Turnover margin: 23rd (+1 per game -- 4 takeaways, 2 giveaways)
Time of possession: 15th (34:59 per game)
Number of offensive plays: (Avg 68 plays per game)

Takeaways:

The offensive explosion happened. I felt we didn't even play great, and we wound up with 205 rushing yards and 371 passing yards.

Number of games between 2016 and 2023 (8 seasons) that Miami has had 200+ yards rushing and 300+ yards passing against an FBS school? Four. Toledo in 2017, FSU in 2020, Duke in 2020, Temple in 2023.

Number of games between the start of 2024 and now (total of 12 games) that Miami has had 200+ yards rushing and 300+ yards passing against a P4 school? Three.

Hello, Shannon Dawson with a good QB behind a Mario Cristobal/Alex Mirabal OL.

I won't get too much into all the stats this week, because nobody else has played 2 ranked teams as their only 2 FBS games, so this will continue to normalize. But we're starting to see the blueprint we all got used to last year morphed with what we thought we'd see this year. A very good offense, with a very good QB, who will be less boom/bust than Cam, and less explosive, while continuing to run the ball well, never take negative plays, and hold the ball for a long time. We're averaging almost 36 minutes time of possession, we've allowed a TOTAL of 4 negative plays in 2 games against ranked teams, we're in the Top 20 in basically every single category, but we're averaging less explosives than last year, hence the reason we're 20th and not #1. As many of us said, the offense *should* be championship good, again. This team will go as far as the defense allows it to. Well, through 2 games, that's holding true. The offense has been outstanding (I have no idea how we hang onto Shannon Dawson after this year, by the way, but that's for another thread). And the defense, while the numbers aren't great yet, has been as advertised overall.

We are still having an issue against explosive plays, much like last year. But I don't feel like it's due to a lack of communication, like last year. The 2 long passes they hit, both were really just excellent plays by the QB. One on a scramble drill, the other was a perfect throw and a great catch. We are currently #24 in total defensive EPA, and #32 in EPA/play. I think we all said if we could just get into the top 30 on defense, we can be really scary. So far, so good. Against 2 very good teams.

The run defense has been insane. #10 in success rate against the run. #10 in EPA per play against the run. #6 in total EPA against the run. We just need to continue to work on limiting explosives in the pass game, and we'll be fine.

But this, to me, has been the best team in the country through 3 weeks. We are doing everything well enough to win the ACC and make the playoffs. Only a quarter of the way through the season, and we all know the record to start the years versus finish it over the last several seasons. But the QB play has been insane, the OL is unfair, the backs are running hard, the WRs are making circus catches, we have kids contributing all over, Bain looks like the best player in the country, Mesidor is unblockable on the other side, we have kids who can truly cover in man, we have kids at backer and Safety that are active and can hit.....this team is scary. Let's go play our A game the next 2 times out and win this state....again.
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What are you most pleased with in our 2025 Canes?

For me, consistent and methodical Offense with the entire Defense a close second.

I woild like to see Mario take more TOs though.
 
JHallCanes said:
Swapping boneheaded 15 yarders for false starts is not something I expected. Mario’s tough and disciplined **** has always been off but when it’s his baby it’s extra annoying
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thought alot of those had to do with the bs pre-snap shift that USF was pulling in sync with our snap count. Think that's what Mario kept *****ing about to the refs, he was keeping count, lip reading he was stating something like "thats 4 times" but, idk
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
As always, these are only numbers from FBS vs FBS competition. Still a lot of very wonky metrics at teams have played both small sample sizes and very imbalanced schedules to this point, but we're starting to normalize a bit.

Offense:

Yards per play: 20th (6.73 YPP)
Yards per game: 22nd (457.5 YPG)
Points per game: 20th (38.0 PPG)
Passing yards per game: 25th (288.0 YPG)
Passing completion percentage: 4th (75.0%)
Passing yards per attempt: 11th (9.6 YPA)
Passer rating: 9th (176.47)
Passing TDs: 18th (5 TDs)
Rushing yards per game: 46th (169.5 YPG)
Rushing yards per attempt: 47th (4.46 YPA)
Rushing TDs: 29th (5)
Sacks given up per game: 24th (1 per game)
First Downs per game: 25th (23.5 per game)
3rd down conversion %: 33rd (45.83%)
4th down conversion %: 31st (75%, 3 for 4 on the season)
TFLs allowed per game: 3rd (2.00 per game)
Red Zone TD %: 23rd (78% TD rate, 7 TDs in 9 chances)
Red Zone Scoring %: 58th (8 scores in 9 chances)
Field goal %: 1st (3 for 3)
PAT %: 1st (16 for 16)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 47th (32)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 37th (11)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 59th (4)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 77th (1)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 37th (1)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 59th (0)
70+ Yard Scrimmage Plays: 59th (0)


Defense:

Yards per play allowed: 48th (5.13 YPP)
Yards per game allowed: 40th (323.0 YPG)
Points per game allowed: 33rd (18.0 PPG)
Passing yards per game allowed: 96th (256.5 YPG)
Passing completion percentage allowed: 52nd (60.6%)
Passing yards per attempt: 71st (7.2 YPA)
Passer rating allowed: 65th (129.56)
Rushing yards per game allowed: 10th (66.5 YPG) (66.5 would be the best by any team since 2021 Wisconsin)
Rushing yards per attempt allowed: 12th (2.42 YPA) (2.42 would've been 2nd in the country last year)
Sacks per game: 39th (2.5 sacks per game)
3rd down % allowed: 72nd (39.2% allowed)
4th down % allowed: 1st (0%, opponents 0/2 on 4th down)
Red Zone td % allowed: 77th (100% allowed -- 4 TDs in 6 chances)
Red Zone Scoring % allowed: 59th (83% allowed -- 5 scores in 6 chances)
Punting: 60th (43.75 Yard average)
10+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 36th (21)
20+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 57th (8)
30+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 87th (5)
40+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 90th (3)
50+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 95th (2)
60+ Yard Scrimmage Plays allowed: 79th (1)


Team Stats:

Penalties: 101st (7.5 penalties per game)
Penalty yards: 93rd (60 Yards per game)
Turnover margin: 23rd (+1 per game -- 4 takeaways, 2 giveaways)
Time of possession: 15th (34:59 per game)
Number of offensive plays: (Avg 68 plays per game)

Takeaways:

The offensive explosion happened. I felt we didn't even play great, and we wound up with 205 rushing yards and 371 passing yards.

Number of games between 2016 and 2023 (8 seasons) that Miami has had 200+ yards rushing and 300+ yards passing against an FBS school? Four. Toledo in 2017, FSU in 2020, Duke in 2020, Temple in 2023.

Number of games between the start of 2024 and now (total of 12 games) that Miami has had 200+ yards rushing and 300+ yards passing against a P4 school? Three.

Hello, Shannon Dawson with a good QB behind a Mario Cristobal/Alex Mirabal OL.

I won't get too much into all the stats this week, because nobody else has played 2 ranked teams as their only 2 FBS games, so this will continue to normalize. But we're starting to see the blueprint we all got used to last year morphed with what we thought we'd see this year. A very good offense, with a very good QB, who will be less boom/bust than Cam, and less explosive, while continuing to run the ball well, never take negative plays, and hold the ball for a long time. We're averaging almost 36 minutes time of possession, we've allowed a TOTAL of 4 negative plays in 2 games against ranked teams, we're in the Top 20 in basically every single category, but we're averaging less explosives than last year, hence the reason we're 20th and not #1. As many of us said, the offense *should* be championship good, again. This team will go as far as the defense allows it to. Well, through 2 games, that's holding true. The offense has been outstanding (I have no idea how we hang onto Shannon Dawson after this year, by the way, but that's for another thread). And the defense, while the numbers aren't great yet, has been as advertised overall.

We are still having an issue against explosive plays, much like last year. But I don't feel like it's due to a lack of communication, like last year. The 2 long passes they hit, both were really just excellent plays by the QB. One on a scramble drill, the other was a perfect throw and a great catch. We are currently #24 in total defensive EPA, and #32 in EPA/play. I think we all said if we could just get into the top 30 on defense, we can be really scary. So far, so good. Against 2 very good teams.

The run defense has been insane. #10 in success rate against the run. #10 in EPA per play against the run. #6 in total EPA against the run. We just need to continue to work on limiting explosives in the pass game, and we'll be fine.

But this, to me, has been the best team in the country through 3 weeks. We are doing everything well enough to win the ACC and make the playoffs. Only a quarter of the way through the season, and we all know the record to start the years versus finish it over the last several seasons. But the QB play has been insane, the OL is unfair, the backs are running hard, the WRs are making circus catches, we have kids contributing all over, Bain looks like the best player in the country, Mesidor is unblockable on the other side, we have kids who can truly cover in man, we have kids at backer and Safety that are active and can hit.....this team is scary. Let's go play our A game the next 2 times out and win this state....again.
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Empirical Cane said:
What are you most pleased with in our 2025 Canes?

For me, consistent and methodical Offense with the entire Defense a close second.

I woild like to see Mario take more TOs though.
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Most pleased? That's tough. The obvious answer for me if you want to be super broad is just the defense. I think we have a good enough defense to win the league, make the playoffs, and make some noise there. Whereas that was clearly not the case last season, obviously. So overall, I'm most pleased with the defense because I think, even after 3 games, I'm convinced it's good enough and much improved.

Individually, Carson Beck. He's been sensational and if you're rock solid at that position, you've got a chance to win every single game.

We had a ******* abomination on the defensive side of the ball last year, and Ward was so good that we lost 2 games by a total of 9 points.
 
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