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duke4heisman said:
Dude it doesn't matter, if Miami wins the games on our schedule and wins the ACC, we're going to the playoffs. Even if we lose, if we win every other game and the ACC champion is undefeated, with the other teams in contention having at least one loss, we very well could still go to the playoffs. This has been brought up time and time again, with all the FSU white knights claiming strength of schedule BS.
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That is the problem. We won't have any good wins in the conference man. We are basically praying that we face a top 5 team in the championship game. What happens when we lose to the only good team we play, then beat a not top ranked team in the champ game. The way it stands, we have to have the other team very highly ranked. The ACC coastal is absolute ***. Seems our fans are the only ones that don't get that.
 
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Demetrius Lowe said:
Who’s in charge of that? We consistently have a weak schedule every year. As much as I want to see us consistently win 10 games a year, I’m tired of us playing FAMU, Bethune Cookman, Savannah State, now Southern Mississippi, FIU, FAU and then we announce that we’re doing a home and home with USF. Mostly every year our hardest game on the schedule is FSU with the exception of a couple. I’m sure schools negatively recruit against us in that they play 4 to 5 big games a year while we may have 2.
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Duke and UVA beat us last year. They’re all big games.

Negatively recruit against us? UF hasn’t played a non conference road game since Reagan was president. P5 teams play their division and one other P5 OOC team maybe 2. Our schedule is in like w everyone else
 
nobeastofburden said:
That is the problem. We won't have any good wins in the conference man. We are basically praying that we face a top 5 team in the championship game. What happens when we lose to the only good team we play, then beat a not top ranked team in the champ game. The way it stands, we have to have the other team very highly ranked. The ACC coastal is absolute ***. Seems our fans are the only ones that don't get that.
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Dude. No.
 
I think we should schedule one top 15 team ooc on the road and one at home( we know the usual suspects of teams ranked) If you lose one, you still have that shot to basically offset that loss with a win versus the other. We will be fortunate if any of the coastal teams are ranked at all, same goes with FSwho. Too many other teams with multiple top 20 opponents on the schedule. We have to go earn that respect. ND and VT back to back was the perfect storm. We need that every year.
 
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TheEye said:
So how would a tougher schedule have helped us? If you lose to Pitt, you are probably losing to Bama and OU as well...
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Don’t be dense man. Nothing was going to help their over inflated ranking that year.

Go back and ready previous post on what Miami needs to do to get in.
 
Demetrius Lowe said:
Who’s in charge of that? We consistently have a weak schedule every year. As much as I want to see us consistently win 10 games a year, I’m tired of us playing FAMU, Bethune Cookman, Savannah State, now Southern Mississippi, FIU, FAU and then we announce that we’re doing a home and home with USF. Mostly every year our hardest game on the schedule is FSU with the exception of a couple. I’m sure schools negatively recruit against us in that they play 4 to 5 big games a year while we may have 2.
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85985
 
One of the dumbest posts I've seen recently.

OP should go and look up our brutal schedules of the '60's and '70's. We had tough team after tough team without let-up. It's no wonder we never could compete for top team status.

Nobody wants to admit it, but a major factor in our '80's and later success is that we balanced our schedule with some breathers.
 
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nobeastofburden said:
I think we should schedule one top 15 team ooc on the road and one at home( we know the usual suspects of teams ranked) If you lose one, you still have that shot to basically offset that loss with a win versus the other. We will be fortunate if any of the coastal teams are ranked at all, same goes with FSwho. Too many other teams with multiple top 20 opponents on the schedule. We have to go earn that respect. ND and VT back to back was the perfect storm. We need that every year.
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That's not how scheduling works. Typically you schedule a few years in advance. A team that is top 15 this year may not be top 15 in 2-4 years when you actually play them.
 
dk72 said:
That's not how scheduling works. Typically you schedule a few years in advance. A team that is top 15 this year may not be top 15 in 2-4 years when you actually play them.
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Of course.

But don’t tell these idiots that. They’re clueless that schedules are mostly made 5, 6, 7 + years in advance. Generally if you’re scheduling someone less than 4-5 years out it’s because of cancellations or they’re just filler teams.

Look when we play Michigan State. That was scheduled years ago. Same with Alabama, same with Florida, etc.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
If we don't have the "mental toughness and preparation" to handle ONE MORE Power 5 team than we currently play, then we don't deserve to be in the College Football Playoff anyhow.

Why would we "load up" our schedule with them? So we can sell tickets, play good teams, impress recruits (who want to play against good competition), and show the Committee that we deserve an at-large spot if we don't win our conference.

Good lord, think about what people are arguing. They have NO PROBLEMS with us playing ONE Power 5 opponent, but if we play TWO Power 5 opponents, suddenly we are incapable of winning or making the CFP.

This pussification of UM is getting out of hand.

Anyone, anytime, anywhere. That used to be our motto.

Now we have fans arguing for 1 Power 5 opponent instead of 2 Power 5 opponents.

Pathetic.
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Even the most mentally tough Miami teams of old had letdown games against inferior opponents. It's human nature to take your foot off the gas when you think you can get away with it. Most of the time they did survive but the Miami teams of the future don't need to take additional risks with little to gain.

You schedule cupcakes so you can have home games to sell tickets to. Scheduling more quality Power 5 opponents means more road games with no gate revenue. Recruits don't give a crap if we play South Carolina or South Alabama - they just want to see wins. If a recruit is making his decision based on schedule he will choose the mystical SEC anyway. Again whether we schedule Michigan State or Humboldt State the committee is still going to favor other 1-loss teams from SEC or B1G over a Miami team that loses to Clemson in the ACCCG. So it doesn't make sense to schedule an extra physical, challenging opponent when that game could serve as a de facto bye.

It's not pathetic it's the reality of modern CFB. SEC schools don't schedule more than 1 marquee non conference game. They load up on cupcakes and byes before their big games against top divisional rivals. Miami needs to do the same and invest everything into beating Clemson.
 
Get Clemson on the schedule, only team in ACC that increase SOS
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
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Yep. That's our path and will be our path for the foreseeable future. The ACC does not equal the SEC and will likely never get the opportunity for 2 teams in the playoffs. 99% of the time it's going to be win all your regular season games or only lose one, win the Coastal, win the ACCCG vs. Clemson. The ultimate goal is doing that by any means necessary.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Of course.

But don’t tell these idiots that. They’re clueless that schedules are mostly made 5, 6, 7 + years in advance. Generally if you’re scheduling someone less than 4-5 years out it’s because of cancellations or they’re just filler teams.

Look when we play Michigan State. That was scheduled years ago. Same with Alabama, same with Florida, etc.
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It's almost like our "Fanbase" doesn't know diddly about anything. Oh that's right, most of them don't know a **** thing. No well managed program is going to ***** themselves by scheduling 4 P5 OOC games. Since 2005, Miami has played the following Power 5 schools OOC.

Florida(Home, Away and Neutral Site)
Nebraska(Home and Away)
Ohio State(Home and Away)
Kansas State(Home and Away)
Notre Dame(Home, Away and Neutral Site)
Oklahoma(Home and Away)
Colorado(Home)
Louisville(Road)
Texas A&M (Home and Away)
Pitt(Away)
LSU(Neutral Site)


Alabama in that same span has played

Duke(Home/Away)
Florida State(Neutral Site x2)
Clemson(Neutral Site)
Virginia Tech(Neutral Site)
Penn State(Home/Away)
Michigan(Neutral Site)
West Virginia(Neutral Site)
Wisconsin(Neutral Site)
USC (Neutral Site)
Louisville(Neutral Site)

Alabama, the so called gold standard in the eyes of the idiots in the fanbase has played a grand total of 2 OOC games in the last decade and change on the road. For the most part, they've relied on playing their one OOC opponent worth a **** in a neutral site game on opening night, a game that is historically played in the south, where they know full well they outnumber the opposing fanbase. Essentially, they are playing a glorified home game. Compare that to Miami, who apparently has a weak schedule. Miami has played 9 true road games against P5 competition in that same span.

Alabama can't really control playing in the SEC, who gets the benefit of the doubt no matter what happens. They shouldn't get credit for beating up on an extremely top heavy SEC, who is extremely similar to **** near every other conference out there. You have the elites in conference, the middle, and the bottom feeders. If Miami goes through a decent ACC with no bad losses, and is able to navigate a sensible OOC schedule, a CFP appearance is all but certain. Miami shouldn't cripple themselves by playing some weird fantasy schedule, because as we've seen time and time again, playing those kind of schedules rarely help you, especially when you have people giving SEC teams credit for racking up wins against garbage OOC, and then using the "We beat each other up" rationale. Let's stop pretending that the ACC is the Pac-12. People forget that VT, FSU, Clemson and others have been ranked consistently over the last 10-15 years. The ACC also has programs like UNC, Pitt, NC State and others that are more than capable of being solid 7-9 win programs on a consistent basis.
 
Canedude08 said:
It's almost like our "Fanbase" doesn't know diddly about anything. Oh that's right, most of them don't know a **** thing. No well managed program is going to ***** themselves by scheduling 4 P5 OOC games. Since 2005, Miami has played the following Power 5 schools OOC.

Florida(Home, Away and Neutral Site)
Nebraska(Home and Away)
Ohio State(Home and Away)
Kansas State(Home and Away)
Notre Dame(Home, Away and Neutral Site)
Oklahoma(Home and Away)
Colorado(Home)
Louisville(Road)
Texas A&M (Home and Away)
Pitt(Away)
LSU(Neutral Site)


Alabama in that same span has played

Duke(Home/Away)
Florida State(Neutral Site x2)
Clemson(Neutral Site)
Virginia Tech(Neutral Site)
Penn State(Home/Away)
Michigan(Neutral Site)
West Virginia(Neutral Site)
Wisconsin(Neutral Site)
USC (Neutral Site)
Louisville(Neutral Site)

Alabama, the so called gold standard in the eyes of the idiots in the fanbase has played a grand total of 2 OOC games in the last decade and change on the road. For the most part, they've relied on playing their one OOC opponent worth a **** in a neutral site game on opening night, a game that is historically played in the south, where they know full well they outnumber the opposing fanbase. Essentially, they are playing a glorified home game. Compare that to Miami, who apparently has a weak schedule. Miami has played 9 true road games against P5 competition in that same span.

Alabama can't really control playing in the SEC, who gets the benefit of the doubt no matter what happens. They shouldn't get credit for beating up on an extremely top heavy SEC, who is extremely similar to **** near every other conference out there. You have the elites in conference, the middle, and the bottom feeders. If Miami goes through a decent ACC with no bad losses, and is able to navigate a sensible OOC schedule, a CFP appearance is all but certain. Miami shouldn't cripple themselves by playing some weird fantasy schedule, because as we've seen time and time again, playing those kind of schedules rarely help you, especially when you have people giving SEC teams credit for racking up wins against garbage OOC, and then using the "We beat each other up" rationale. Let's stop pretending that the ACC is the Pac-12. People forget that VT, FSU, Clemson and others have been ranked consistently over the last 10-15 years. The ACC also has programs like UNC, Pitt, NC State and others that are more than capable of being solid 7-9 win programs on a consistent basis.
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Thank you.

Excellent post.
 
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