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Was granted a refund from the AD

jenniferurs said:
jenniferurs said:
I'd like to know more about this. How much did you donate? When did you donate? And what did you donate for (was this a straight gift or given in conjunction with the purchase of tickets)? What was the theory under which you asked for a refund and what was said in response to you when you posed the request? I'm extremely curious to know how this went down.
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I suspect your lack of a response stems from the fact that this didn't go down quite how you're implying, and you're doing everyone a disservice by leading people to believe they'll receive refunds for things they will not, and by creating more work for people in the athletic department who are just trying to do their jobs. I understand being upset with the state of the program. I can promise you that no one is more upset than I am. But at the same time, you guys have to understand that there are very few people within the University who actually have the power to change our current situation, and you're misdirecting your anger and your attacks towards people who cannot effectuate these changes and are only trying to make the best out of the situation they've been given. If you want to ask for a refund, by all means go ahead. But you're not only wasting the time of the people in the Hurricane Club, you're wasting your own time as well.

Now go ahead and neg away, but it had to be said.
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So we should just be silent and do nothing unless we somehow get an audience with Donna ******* Shalala herself?

Look, tweeting at recruits and players and their families is Grade A Stupid. But so is what you are saying.

Of course it is a waste of their time if we ask some low level staffer for a refund...THAT IS THE POINT. Make everyone in the Athletic Department miserable at work, and eventually it gets filtered up the chain of command. That is how fans affect change.
 
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jenniferurs said:
jenniferurs said:
I'd like to know more about this. How much did you donate? When did you donate? And what did you donate for (was this a straight gift or given in conjunction with the purchase of tickets)? What was the theory under which you asked for a refund and what was said in response to you when you posed the request? I'm extremely curious to know how this went down.
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I suspect your lack of a response stems from the fact that this didn't go down quite how you're implying, and you're doing everyone a disservice by leading people to believe they'll receive refunds for things they will not, and by creating more work for people in the athletic department who are just trying to do their jobs. I understand being upset with the state of the program. I can promise you that no one is more upset than I am. But at the same time, you guys have to understand that there are very few people within the University who actually have the power to change our current situation, and you're misdirecting your anger and your attacks towards people who cannot effectuate these changes and are only trying to make the best out of the situation they've been given. If you want to ask for a refund, by all means go ahead. But you're not only wasting the time of the people in the Hurricane Club, you're wasting your own time as well.

Now go ahead and neg away, but it had to be said.
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negged into oblivion.
 
Asking for a refund is so retarded unless you explicitly made a donation under the pretense that Golden would be fired. If you're dumb enough to have bought season tickets and donated this year, like myself and most of us were, just take your kick in the **** like a man, realize you blew you're money, and don't do it next year. Asking for money back is petty and retarded, unless it's in the case as stated above.
 
jenniferurs said:
jenniferurs said:
I'd like to know more about this. How much did you donate? When did you donate? And what did you donate for (was this a straight gift or given in conjunction with the purchase of tickets)? What was the theory under which you asked for a refund and what was said in response to you when you posed the request? I'm extremely curious to know how this went down.
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I suspect your lack of a response stems from the fact that this didn't go down quite how you're implying, and you're doing everyone a disservice by leading people to believe they'll receive refunds for things they will not, and by creating more work for people in the athletic department who are just trying to do their jobs. I understand being upset with the state of the program. I can promise you that no one is more upset than I am. But at the same time, you guys have to understand that there are very few people within the University who actually have the power to change our current situation, and you're misdirecting your anger and your attacks towards people who cannot effectuate these changes and are only trying to make the best out of the situation they've been given. If you want to ask for a refund, by all means go ahead. But you're not only wasting the time of the people in the Hurricane Club, you're wasting your own time as well.

Now go ahead and neg away, but it had to be said.
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This taking up in defense of the little people because they can't help is getting tiring. We get it, you still have friends who work in the lower levels of the athletic department.
Who gives a ****.
I wonder what speaks louder, an admin complaining to their superior that they have to draft a form response about how they will not be writing refund checks, or Facebook status updates. Someone having to take time away from what is inarguably more important to open letters with cut ties in them, or some tweets.
Christ give it a rest.
 
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GoldCane said:
yuuuup, an influx of refund requests should open their eyes. Only one problem, they don't seem to give a chit about ANYTHING. Just fold the **** program already and get it over with. It is inevitable with leadership like this.
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It is obvious there is NO LEDERSHIP!
 
jenniferurs said:
I'd like to know more about this. How much did you donate? When did you donate? And what did you donate for (was this a straight gift or given in conjunction with the purchase of tickets)? What was the theory under which you asked for a refund and what was said in response to you when you posed the request? I'm extremely curious to know how this went down.
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What are you, the FBI? Why don't you just say you don't believe him?
 
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jenniferurs said:
jenniferurs said:
I'd like to know more about this. How much did you donate? When did you donate? And what did you donate for (was this a straight gift or given in conjunction with the purchase of tickets)? What was the theory under which you asked for a refund and what was said in response to you when you posed the request? I'm extremely curious to know how this went down.
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I suspect your lack of a response stems from the fact that this didn't go down quite how you're implying, and you're doing everyone a disservice by leading people to believe they'll receive refunds for things they will not, and by creating more work for people in the athletic department who are just trying to do their jobs. I understand being upset with the state of the program. I can promise you that no one is more upset than I am. But at the same time, you guys have to understand that there are very few people within the University who actually have the power to change our current situation, and you're misdirecting your anger and your attacks towards people who cannot effectuate these changes and are only trying to make the best out of the situation they've been given. If you want to ask for a refund, by all means go ahead. But you're not only wasting the time of the people in the Hurricane Club, you're wasting your own time as well.

Now go ahead and neg away, but it had to be said.
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Listen girly, this is a war now. The people in Hamburg had no power to effect change in Germany either, but we burned them to crispy critters anyway. If these people you are worried about draw a salary then they are just hired gunts like Al, Blake and Donna not owners. They should smile, cash their checks and do their jobs.
 
canespimp433 said:
Asking for a refund is so retarded unless you explicitly made a donation under the pretense that Golden would be fired. If you're dumb enough to have bought season tickets and donated this year, like myself and most of us were, just take your kick in the **** like a man, realize you blew you're money, and don't do it next year. Asking for money back is petty and retarded, unless it's in the case as stated above.
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Pretty much this.

Nobody is saying that you have to stay silent, unless given an audience with Donna. But there are productive ways to express your displeasure and there are unproductive ways. This isn't going to make anyone in the Hurricane Club "miserable at work." It's just going to be one more thing they have to do, when they could be directing their energy and efforts towards raising more money for our department. Regardless of how we feel about our current coach, the Hurricane Club is doing their best to make as many capital improvements as possible, which helps us at least a tiny bit when trying to attract new coaches. Are our upgrades on the same level as Oregon, Alabama, et al? Of course not. Because we don't get Oregon/Alabama-like donations from the majority of our fan base. But the Hurricane Club is doing the best they can and, in that way, they're much more an ally than they are an enemy.

That being said, if you choose not to renew for next year, that's your prerogative. I will not be buying season tickets next year, because I have a child and a business I'm trying to get off the ground, and I simply don't have the money to spend on a product that makes me so miserable every week. Should they make changes, I'll eagerly return. But as of now, it just doesn't make sense for my family. If a lot of other people feel the same way and follow suit, THAT is how fans can potentially effect change. Not by baselessly asking for refunds that will not be given. At a certain point, you have to understand when you're furthering your cause and when you're just making the fan base look petty. Be vocal, but respectful. Be proactive, but professional. And remember that many of these people you're directing your anger towards are just as passionate about the program as you are.
 
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Gatorhater said:
jenniferurs said:
I'd like to know more about this. How much did you donate? When did you donate? And what did you donate for (was this a straight gift or given in conjunction with the purchase of tickets)? What was the theory under which you asked for a refund and what was said in response to you when you posed the request? I'm extremely curious to know how this went down.
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What are you, the FBI? Why don't you just say you don't believe him?
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Okay, fine. I don't believe him.
 
I think asking for a 'refund' is dumb. However, I totally agree that everyone should withhold donations/ticket purchases and any other monetary support until administration decides they are interested in fielding a competitive football team.
 
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jenniferurs said:
jenniferurs said:
I'd like to know more about this. How much did you donate? When did you donate? And what did you donate for (was this a straight gift or given in conjunction with the purchase of tickets)? What was the theory under which you asked for a refund and what was said in response to you when you posed the request? I'm extremely curious to know how this went down.
Click to expand...

I suspect your lack of a response stems from the fact that this didn't go down quite how you're implying, and you're doing everyone a disservice by leading people to believe they'll receive refunds for things they will not, and by creating more work for people in the athletic department who are just trying to do their jobs. I understand being upset with the state of the program. I can promise you that no one is more upset than I am. But at the same time, you guys have to understand that there are very few people within the University who actually have the power to change our current situation, and you're misdirecting your anger and your attacks towards people who cannot effectuate these changes and are only trying to make the best out of the situation they've been given. If you want to ask for a refund, by all means go ahead. But you're not only wasting the time of the people in the Hurricane Club, you're wasting your own time as well.

Now go ahead and neg away, but it had to be said.
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While I agree with your premise about the OP misrepresenting the manner in which he received a refund, this is a direct line to Blake about how upset the people are with the state of the program.

As Blake has continually stated, he care only about people who invest in the athletic programs with either money or time, and this is the way for them to be heard. Perhaps they do not receive a refund. However, by calling in and requesting refunds illustrates the lack of faith the fans have in the direction of the program.

**** flows down-hill, information flows up hill. No better way to communicate the information than from the workers at the bottom.
 
4Canes said:
Dash said:
If you have donated to the program at all recently, I suggest asking for a refund. It was granted to me. Keep fighting the good fight, make these people's lives miserable, and make a statement.

j.marks@miami.edu Was the UM athletics staffer who contacted me back, and CC'd craig.anderson@miami.edu

I think people have a legitimate right to demand money back for the farce that was presented to us as "building champions". That includes money spent on tickets.
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What part of your donation outlines the requirements of "building champions", I'm curious about what you based your stance on?
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Shut up, Blake
 
Fck the Hurricane Club. Bomb them with refund requests. Make them pass along to their bosses that they can't get anything done because they're getting deluged with refund requests.

War is ****.
 
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My donation for this season was at the beginning of training camp. Small amount. I'm no big booster, just an average alum who is sick to my stomach not only with the results of the football program, but of the complete lack of talent in the athletics administration.

I could care less if someone thinks it's stupid; I feel that my money is being spent on the wrong things. I'm glad to help, but only if the university is committed to winning national titles. I find it extremely dishonest to take money from people and then act in a manner which is counter to the reasons you provided for acquiring said donation.

Jennifer, I'd be glad to forward you the email. PM me.
 
While you're at it, you can send them a bill for the hours of your life that you lost watching the team last season.
 
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