Warren Sapp

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Got it. If I'm following correctly I would say in that case no you are not racist for not wanting to associate with that group. I would not want to associate with a group that established it's whole state based on ethno/religious supremacy either.

You and I having an opinion of that group based and its members past behavior is not racist. That group is very well off financially and you and I having an opinion about them even if ignorant or untrue doesn't really alter that groups reality or proximity to power which are two things that are supposed to be the Hallmark of racism.

I was doing a couple of things at the same time I was writing in this thread. So apologies for my word salad. Also, I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond.
Sorry I put you through that mumbo-jumbo.
In a nutshell, I don't think one has to wield power to be a racist.
I've known plenty of people over the years who were not rich nor powerful.
In fact, they were in a minority group due to skin color, religion, etc and they were, in my estimation, bigoted mfers.
In many ways I was glad they had no control over anything.
I also think people have a right to associate with whomever they want to be that neighborhoods, schools, etc as long as they are not breaking laws or hurting people.
 
Yep.
Sounds irrational. You can be at public hearing and in public rooms anytime there is a public matter. But that does not mean you have the right to walk through any door claiming it’s your right. And telling the Asian officer he wasn’t born in the US is just plain xenophobic and Sapp being a black man does not give him some privilege to be racist.

I some way I almost hope its CTE because if it is not, then Sapp maybe the biggest loser on earth, or vying for that title. At least if it’s CTE, it is a disease, albeit a debilitating and fatal one.

its probably a lot of one, and a bit of the other. He is what he is
 
If y'all want honesty I'll give it to y'all. In my humble opinion it's a convergence of numerous factors. #1 warren has always been a Prick & a narcissist. #2 ONE of the worst things to happen to warren was him becoming close with Luther. At times he's like a puppet to him and his causes. #3 Right up there with Luther, was when warren went broke and lost any relevance he let Deion & his chase of national media into his life. No press is bad press. Now you tie those factors into one messy ball and you see, it's not cte, it's what warren has decided gives him purpose. Reality is this isn't a first time thing. He goes down to city halls and police stations on a regular for one cause or another. He's done this since he retired. It's led to his arrest at least twice that I can think of.
so he's a rebel without a cause -- or clue lol
 
This entire thing can be summed up like this:

Warren vs Hollywood Police in a game of “Who can be the biggest *******.” Who won? Who cares. Both sides are wrong, regardless of racism/prejudice, not that I’m diminishing those things. Rather than looking for solutions and compromise, both sides looked to throw moist turds at each other. Both sides come off looking worse.
Well once side is the government, one side is the citizen.... Tie goes to the citizen.
 
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With as big of an ******* as he is, and his multiple previous issues, its not far fetched to assume/guess that he is guilty.

@Brooklyndee I have never seem him at practice or around the university. Is he just not interested or do we not invite him?


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This entire thing can be summed up like this:

Warren vs Hollywood Police in a game of “Who can be the biggest *******.” Who won? Who cares. Both sides are wrong, regardless of racism/prejudice, not that I’m diminishing those things. Rather than looking for solutions and compromise, both sides looked to throw moist turds at each other. Both sides come off looking worse.
Well once side is the government, one side is the citizen.... Tie goes to the citizen.
I understand your point. However that sentiment is an absolute - tie goes to citizen. There is a mountain of nuance in each situation. My point was the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze by either side. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
Was all the way with until you brought up Sapp being Black and him using as that as an excuse to be racist. Did he state that or is that just a narrative you created in your head?

I think you should look up the definition of the word racist, then you would understand in this context you used it incorrectly. Since you brought up Sapp using his Blackness as an excuse to be racist understand that Warren Sapp holds no systemic authority over any Asian person to stop them from doing a **** thing.

If you want to see an example of racism look how people of a certain Race can use the political system to limit Black people from voting. That is racist. What Warren Sapp said was ignorant.
Where is any race being “limited” in voting?
 
Thank you for revealing your true feelings about Black People. I think your thinking is very much in line with the poster I responded to. So it "Racist" to describe a behavior as negative and then say "only Black people do it?

Also what Race are you may I ask?

All of this is exactly why Sapp being black should've never been brought up to begin with. Jerks come in all shades. There's no need to highlight particular shades when something comes up simply because we've got an old bone to pick.
 
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I understand your point. However that sentiment is an absolute - tie goes to citizen. There is a mountain of nuance in each situation. My point was the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze by either side. 🤷🏼‍♂️
Well I'd just say those people doing those type of audits of the police/government institutions serve as a useful check/balance to the government power. So yes I do think it's an absolute tie goes to the citizen in the general sense. Obviously case by case and all that...

And yes most of the time they're all ********/annoying. But net result is good for us imo
 
I was just going to post the same thing. Sad to say, I always assume Sapp is in the wrong.
I can’t stand that MF’er. He makes me think of the Chris Rock line “cause we hate Black people too”. CTE isn’t an excuse, he’s always been a complete landfill of a person. Great, great player, but a seemingly terrible human being.
 
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