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Visions aint that Bleak! Sky Cam Review of the 10 sacks & Player Observations

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blackvern said:
Rewatched the game this morning on Xfinity SkyCam to get another POV of Jarren and the offensive line and the game.

Offense:

- 1st Sack slow developing PA pass Jarren had no hope bad play call
-2nd sack delayed LB blitz where there were no hot reads everybody went long there was nothing that Jarren could do, he played it safe and took the sack
- Jarren under pressure from a blitz again hits Jordan right in the hands and he drops it on 3rd and 5 wouldve been a first down.
-3rd sack from a CB blitz on a slow developing play action pass no chance.
-4th sack on a delayed blitz by LB Play was designed to go deep to Mallory, Outcoached long developing play and perfect defensive play call.
-5th sack on a QB option play i dont know WTF that was
-6th and 7th sack nobody was open held the ball
-8th sack Zion beat by Zuniga there was absolutely no one open, best decision wouldve been to take off running
-9th sack he rolled away from immense pressure after a blitz got outside the pocket and froze he fumbled
-10th sack Zuniga read the snap count had a head start beat Zion you have to give it to a great player making a great play right there


Some Offensive LIneman Player Evals
- Zion actually played decent until last drives in 4th quarter and thats all we remember. I think it was a combination of him wearing down, and Zuniga pinnin his ears back and learning the snap count. I repeat go look at the tape Zion handled Moon. Zuniga played everywhere and was only one who beat Zion.
- Campbell on the other hand aint ready @Liberty City El I was holding out hope but he is not ready. I'd give him a few more games to see what happens but we might have to put Scaife out there . Campbell did recover Osbournes fumble on the 4th his best play of the day
-Scaife was a ******* beast out there he man handled Zuniga and everybody whom we went against easily our best lineman.
-Gaynor played decent untill that last snap!!



Key Points
*To be honest a lot of those sacks where he held the ball no one was open Jarren was holding the ball trying to keep the play alive to see if something pops open, he didnt wanna throw it away in the pocket or make a dangerous throw because it was obvious he was coached to not lose the game, but You have to give it to Floridas defense. On the blitzes Jarren needs to recognize them and know where to go we know he can do it (as on the TD pass to Brevin) The delayed blitzes are what really confused him which can only get better with experience. , he was trying to make a play he will learn

*Zuniga and the D Line were slanting inside all night and destroyed a lot of our run plays, more running plays should have been called to the outside Grantham outcoached Enos in that sense.

* I feel we should have made JT4 a bigger part of the game, why we are running reverses to Osborne instead of him I have no idea.

* Our running backs are very good not elite in space. Im hoping Lingard will change that when he returns against N. Carolina

* Please somebody tell me why we ran the read Option with Tate in the Red Zone when Dallas was killing it??

*Bunch formation sets are a night mare against blitzing DB's bad coaching decision by Enos

*Zion will be fine, Campbell on the other hand

Defense

-A lot of plays where we only rushed 3, the porsters on here obviously couldnt see we were more worried about Franks running then throwing the times we pinned our ears back we got to him and pressured him. He's big and strong and broke the tackles of two sacks. Shaq looks faster as he did the beginning of the year last year he ran down perrine on a few screens.

- Secondary looked good Frierson played awsome. Blades and Hall need to work on their tackling Hall and blades both missed a few. A. Carter played awesome. I see why he started over D. Smith. he can run.

- D Line looked the best against the run as long as I can remember. Ford was unblockable and Bethel played great.
- Rousseau and Hill need to get more PT they caused pressures
- Patchan was solid and recovered a FF
- Jimmy Murphy was haulin *** on KR

In conclusion,

I cant remember a time where we held down an offense of UF's caliber on the road. Although we didnt deserve to win the game we were a muffed punt , a missed FG and dropped td away from winning the game. Both teams were penalized heavily. I think Enos got outcoached by Grantham it happens,but I cant lie im a little worried about it. I will give Enos the benefit of the doubt we were on thorad first start for a freshman QB and two freshman tackles. Their blitzes confused us all night. He went away from motion and crossing routes, guys just were not open and its easy to see on SkyCam. A great team wins that game a good team loses them. Sucks but we couldve won this game. We arent great but these next 3 months will show how good we are.
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Great great post and analysis @blackvern . You really nailed this one. I'm glad someone mentioned us running jet sweeps to Osbourne. Why? Those need to go to Thomas!

Question regarding the OL. Do you move Scaife to LT and Nelson to RT or leave Nelson at LT and move Scaife to RT?
 
Wow. That’s is some fine OP posting. Makes up for all the chicken little posts that populated the board after 11 last night.
 
blackvern said:
Rewatched the game this morning on Xfinity SkyCam to get another POV of Jarren and the offensive line and the game.

Offense:

- 1st Sack slow developing PA pass Jarren had no hope bad play call
-2nd sack delayed LB blitz where there were no hot reads everybody went long there was nothing that Jarren could do, he played it safe and took the sack
- Jarren under pressure from a blitz again hits Jordan right in the hands and he drops it on 3rd and 5 wouldve been a first down.
-3rd sack from a CB blitz on a slow developing play action pass no chance.
-4th sack on a delayed blitz by LB Play was designed to go deep to Mallory, Outcoached long developing play and perfect defensive play call.
-5th sack on a QB option play i dont know WTF that was
-6th and 7th sack nobody was open held the ball
-8th sack Zion beat by Zuniga there was absolutely no one open, best decision wouldve been to take off running
-9th sack he rolled away from immense pressure after a blitz got outside the pocket and froze he fumbled
-10th sack Zuniga read the snap count had a head start beat Zion you have to give it to a great player making a great play right there


Some Offensive LIneman Player Evals
- Zion actually played decent until last drives in 4th quarter and thats all we remember. I think it was a combination of him wearing down, and Zuniga pinnin his ears back and learning the snap count. I repeat go look at the tape Zion handled Moon. Zuniga played everywhere and was only one who beat Zion.
- Campbell on the other hand aint ready @Liberty City El I was holding out hope but he is not ready. I'd give him a few more games to see what happens but we might have to put Scaife out there . Campbell did recover Osbournes fumble on the 4th his best play of the day
-Scaife was a ******* beast out there he man handled Zuniga and everybody whom we went against easily our best lineman.
-Gaynor played decent untill that last snap!!



Key Points
*To be honest a lot of those sacks where he held the ball no one was open Jarren was holding the ball trying to keep the play alive to see if something pops open, he didnt wanna throw it away in the pocket or make a dangerous throw because it was obvious he was coached to not lose the game, but You have to give it to Floridas defense. On the blitzes Jarren needs to recognize them and know where to go we know he can do it (as on the TD pass to Brevin) The delayed blitzes are what really confused him which can only get better with experience. , he was trying to make a play he will learn

*Zuniga and the D Line were slanting inside all night and destroyed a lot of our run plays, more running plays should have been called to the outside Grantham outcoached Enos in that sense.

* I feel we should have made JT4 a bigger part of the game, why we are running reverses to Osborne instead of him I have no idea.

* Our running backs are very good not elite in space. Im hoping Lingard will change that when he returns against N. Carolina

* Please somebody tell me why we ran the read Option with Tate in the Red Zone when Dallas was killing it??

*Bunch formation sets are a night mare against blitzing DB's bad coaching decision by Enos

*Zion will be fine, Campbell on the other hand

Defense

-A lot of plays where we only rushed 3, the porsters on here obviously couldnt see we were more worried about Franks running then throwing the times we pinned our ears back we got to him and pressured him. He's big and strong and broke the tackles of two sacks. Shaq looks faster as he did the beginning of the year last year he ran down perrine on a few screens.

- Secondary looked good Frierson played awsome. Blades and Hall need to work on their tackling Hall and blades both missed a few. A. Carter played awesome. I see why he started over D. Smith. he can run.

- D Line looked the best against the run as long as I can remember. Ford was unblockable and Bethel played great.
- Rousseau and Hill need to get more PT they caused pressures
- Patchan was solid and recovered a FF
- Jimmy Murphy was haulin *** on KR

In conclusion,

I cant remember a time where we held down an offense of UF's caliber on the road. Although we didnt deserve to win the game we were a muffed punt , a missed FG and dropped td away from winning the game. Both teams were penalized heavily. I think Enos got outcoached by Grantham it happens,but I cant lie im a little worried about it. I will give Enos the benefit of the doubt we were on thorad first start for a freshman QB and two freshman tackles. Their blitzes confused us all night. He went away from motion and crossing routes, guys just were not open and its easy to see on SkyCam. A great team wins that game a good team loses them. Sucks but we couldve won this game. We arent great but these next 3 months will show how good we are.
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Watched some of replay via skycam too. Right tackle was awful
 
Empirical Cane said:
BVern...I always give you respect.

Agree on everything above, except OL.

From LT to RT...complete and utter trash more consistently than even average play.

I'd take a OL made up of SoFL HS senior all-star lineman than what was on field last night. They couldn't have done worse.

Punting game showed big improvement (considering how bad it was last year). Louie Louie's aussie experience saved a REALLY BAD result on his first kick. Likely tipped/blocked with a traditional punter back there.

No more JT on kickoffs/PR. I've seen enough.

Trade off his "eliteness" (I just threw up in my mouth) with who ever has the best hands and can run.

Mark this down...until proven otherwise, JT is more of a liability in return gane than any chance of "game breaking" play.

******* BOOK IT.
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Give the kid a break he had a bad game. That’s the first time I can remember him turning the ball over since he’s been in a Canes uniform!!!
 
Nice evaluation but for you to be ok with Zion has me concerned about what you saw. He’s still a question mark, let’s see how he does vs UNC.
Half of our sacks instead of looking for a wr to get open he should’ve just tucked it and go. Lost count how many times he had open lanes. We played a crap game and still lost by 4. Lots of good but lots of bad as well. Let’s see how we rebound vs UNC. They’re awful and to not beat them by at least 2 scores will be troubling.
 
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What if...

We catch a Punt....or
We kick a FG on 4&9.. or
We catch a TD that hits us in the hands or
We convert a 3rd down where it hits us in he hands or
We don't get a mysterious PI call or holding call on a Cam's Run

Bottom line is we're one **** play away from winning that *****... and As frustrating as it is... I'm still optimistic because these are all correctable....

Even with 74 playing like a bull fighter out there we had our chance to win.

And quite frankly, the Gators will be the best team we face until the ACCCG... ..

If we can get those tackles right... then its new years 6

At least that's what my Therapist is saying

JC
 
FrancisSaywer said:
Great great post and analysis @blackvern . You really nailed this one. I'm glad someone mentioned us running jet sweeps to Osbourne. Why? Those need to go to Thomas!

Question regarding the OL. Do you move Scaife to LT and Nelson to RT or leave Nelson at LT and move Scaife to RT?
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I’d move scaife to RT but he played good at guard id leave Zion there for now . I’m sure butch Barry knows what he’s doing...
 
blackvern said:
Not that easy Zuniga was timing the snap count on a few of those you have to give it up to a great player sometimes ZIon played well go back and watch the tape
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Zuniga is a 2nd day pick who has been in a college program since Zion was in 8th grade. He is a pro, Zion is 9 months removed from playing on Friday nights in a town of 40,000 people.
 
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WIN said:
I don't
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Your wrong … again. Below are the numbers. From https://www.footballdb.com/college-football/teams/fbs/miami/stats
Don't get me wrong. I like a punt returner with a 25 yard return avg but HE HAS TO CATCH THE BALL. There's nothing to even debate.

2019
Punt Returns

PlayerNumYdsAvgFCLgTD
Jeff Thomas1-1-1.00110
TOTALS1-1-1.00110
2018
Punt Returns

PlayerNumYdsAvgFCLgTD
Jeff Thomas922124.561051t1
DeeJay Dallas1119117.361965t1
Nesta Jade Silvera11515.00000
Scott Patchan0100.00010t1
Mark Pope000.00100
Jaquan Johnson000.00100
Waynmon Steed000.00100
TOTALS2143720.813265t3
2017
Punt Returns

PlayerNumYdsAvgFCLgTD
Braxton Berrios1320715.9241440
Jonathan Garvin11313.00000
Jeff Thomas000.00100
TOTALS1422015.7142440

2016
Punt Returns

PlayerNumYdsAvgFCLgTD
Braxton Berrios1921511.3231431
Pat Bethel11313.00000
Ryan Mayes090.00090
RJ McIntosh166.00000
Malcolm Lewis000.00100
TOTALS2124311.5732431
 
Honestly, the thing that scares me the most is the comment about Enos. dsd had a similar comment the other day that basically said once the Gators started playing the corners tight Enos had no answer. Kind of scary for a guy who's been around a while. Maybe it was just first game and trying to figure things out but I honestly expected more from the guy to help protect Jarren and adjust once he saw what Grantham was doing.
 
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