Valentine and Bo

[crossover22[]_[]]

that level of cheating was happening before butch ever even got there lol.

I agree with that to but butch wasn't stopping anything.

You can't possibly be that dumb.

Haha ill keep my mouth shut. I could say a lot but ill be a man.


Butch hired a known agent. His name was on a ****ing website for agents for **** sake. He brought in his own personal tutor that was cheating for the kids. Dude you don't know ****. Go hunt a ****ing fictional character.

Yeap, and Donna took money from huge, well maybe taller than her, crook with a stupid smile on her face. NCCA gave Butch clean slate; Donna is one of their own and they raped us for three years. So, in short, if we don't want Butch as HC, then lets replace Donna with him. He does better with NCCA and can always help out recruiting like she does sometimes. Plus, I am sure he will fire Mark.

I'm all for hiring butch. I just know it will never happen with Donna here

 

[luke137]

Meanwhile, Treon Harris seen running across campus with extra cookies!

LMAO!!

 

[The Franchise]

I agree with that to but butch wasn't stopping anything.

You can't possibly be that dumb.

Haha ill keep my mouth shut. I could say a lot but ill be a man.


Butch hired a known agent. His name was on a ****ing website for agents for **** sake. He brought in his own personal tutor that was cheating for the kids. Dude you don't know ****. Go hunt a ****ing fictional character.

Yeap, and Donna took money from huge, well maybe taller than her, crook with a stupid smile on her face. NCCA gave Butch clean slate; Donna is one of their own and they raped us for three years. So, in short, if we don't want Butch as HC, then lets replace Donna with him. He does better with NCCA and can always help out recruiting like she does sometimes. Plus, I am sure he will fire Mark.

I'm all for hiring butch. I just know it will never happen with Donna here

I, for one, appreciate you sharing your insider tidbits about President Shalala. If you don't mind me asking, how do you know her so well?

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

You can't possibly be that dumb.

Haha ill keep my mouth shut. I could say a lot but ill be a man.


Butch hired a known agent. His name was on a ****ing website for agents for **** sake. He brought in his own personal tutor that was cheating for the kids. Dude you don't know ****. Go hunt a ****ing fictional character.

Yeap, and Donna took money from huge, well maybe taller than her, crook with a stupid smile on her face. NCCA gave Butch clean slate; Donna is one of their own and they raped us for three years. So, in short, if we don't want Butch as HC, then lets replace Donna with him. He does better with NCCA and can always help out recruiting like she does sometimes. Plus, I am sure he will fire Mark.

I'm all for hiring butch. I just know it will never happen with Donna here

I, for one, appreciate you sharing your insider tidbits about President Shalala. If you don't mind me asking, how do you know her so well?

Her previous hires.

 

[azcanesfan]

This thread is ****ing embarrassing.

Agreed. I am amazed any recruit wants to come to Miami after reading the **** that is on all of these fan sites.

 

[hoover437]

This thread is ****ing embarrassing.

Agreed. I am amazed any recruit wants to come to Miami after reading the **** that is on all of these fan sites.

It's a wonder we have the recruits we have now...this site so reminds me of Grassy!!! We should let this thing play out and see how the chips will fall on Thursday. If we land one of the two dts and hopefully Bo, all the others in consideration will be gravy. This class versus the last two coaches third year is incredible.

 

[User-4525]

If we had coaches for crap, we'd have won more games, and we wouldn't have given up 500 yards a game.

FSU recruits well because they play well, and are coached well. Same-same with Alabama.

Look, you'll have some who want to stay home.

Others want to play for a winning program where they can play for the NC, and then the NFL. Those are the ones we're losing.

Get someone like Butch, start winning, playing aggressively with our ears laid back, and we'll keep a lot of those we want from S.FL. Not with Golden. Not with D'Onofrio.

FSU sucked till Winston. Are you serious?

I don't understand how they sucked.... and even with how "bad" they were, they still managed to recruit top 5 classes

 

[FullyERicht]

If we had coaches for crap, we'd have won more games, and we wouldn't have given up 500 yards a game.

FSU recruits well because they play well, and are coached well. Same-same with Alabama.

Look, you'll have some who want to stay home.

Others want to play for a winning program where they can play for the NC, and then the NFL. Those are the ones we're losing.

Get someone like Butch, start winning, playing aggressively with our ears laid back, and we'll keep a lot of those we want from S.FL. Not with Golden. Not with D'Onofrio.

Jimbo took over n got n elite instantly, kids dont care who wins. Cory johnson went t kentucky for gods sake. Its more than what ur saying

Cory Johnson, like Valentine, was probably scared off by Miami's academic requirements. Like TV, he went to a very questionable school. It looks like that Brooklyn JUCO Johnson went to is the JUCO equivalent of Champagnat.

Don't forget, Champagnat is not accredited; it does not speak well for LSU that they're so willing to take a kid like that probably without providing a path to academic success in a real academic major. They probably promised him a P.E. major which UM does not have. They discard a lot of players after they get there, not only do they have a lower NCAA grad rate, but a lower federal grad rate, which looks at the overall percentage taking into consideration those who come in or leave the program.

A lot of these kids are very marginal students--they see their future as defined by football, not achieving a professional vocation. If they don't make it in football, they might end up coaching HS, or being a cop or security guard. Usually honorable professions (not always) but not professions that really require the intellectual development that academic courses in college might provide.

I think that's the issue with Wyche too. He probably dislikes school so much he was not willing to put in an extra semester of classes to come to the U.

Can we stop pretending any of these kids are here for anything but football? It's not our responsibility to force a kid to do something he's not interested in. But we do, and then they go elsewhere and we lose games. This school is closer to Bama than it is Duke, yet we have unrealistic standards bc of the **************.

 

[The []_[]]

If we had coaches for crap, we'd have won more games, and we wouldn't have given up 500 yards a game.

FSU recruits well because they play well, and are coached well. Same-same with Alabama.

Look, you'll have some who want to stay home.

Others want to play for a winning program where they can play for the NC, and then the NFL. Those are the ones we're losing.

Get someone like Butch, start winning, playing aggressively with our ears laid back, and we'll keep a lot of those we want from S.FL. Not with Golden. Not with D'Onofrio.

FSU sucked till Winston. Are you serious?

I don't understand how they sucked.... and even with how "bad" they were, they still managed to recruit top 5 classes

I dont think many other coaches would fare well with what Miami has had on the roster since 2010. FSU has had top classes and Jameis took them over the hump. Bama has Saban and the SEC lure, A great QB will win you a few extra games. I dont think some of you fans realize Curtis Porter, Justin Renfrow, Luther Robinson and so on probably wouldnt start at the schools that we gave up those 500 yards to.

 

[TreOFive]

If we had coaches for crap, we'd have won more games, and we wouldn't have given up 500 yards a game.

FSU recruits well because they play well, and are coached well. Same-same with Alabama.

Look, you'll have some who want to stay home.

Others want to play for a winning program where they can play for the NC, and then the NFL. Those are the ones we're losing.

Get someone like Butch, start winning, playing aggressively with our ears laid back, and we'll keep a lot of those we want from S.FL. Not with Golden. Not with D'Onofrio.

FSU sucked till Winston. Are you serious?

I don't understand how they sucked.... and even with how "bad" they were, they still managed to recruit top 5 classes

I dont think many other coaches would fare well with what Miami has had on the roster since 2010. FSU has had top classes and Jameis took them over the hump. Bama has Saban and the SEC lure, A great QB will win you a few extra games. I dont think some of you fans realize Curtis Porter, Justin Renfrow, Luther Robinson and so on probably wouldnt start at the schools that we gave up those 500 yards to.

Another "talent" excuse.

Excuses are tools of incompetence

 

[arcane]

If we had coaches for crap, we'd have won more games, and we wouldn't have given up 500 yards a game.

FSU recruits well because they play well, and are coached well. Same-same with Alabama.

Look, you'll have some who want to stay home.

Others want to play for a winning program where they can play for the NC, and then the NFL. Those are the ones we're losing.

Get someone like Butch, start winning, playing aggressively with our ears laid back, and we'll keep a lot of those we want from S.FL. Not with Golden. Not with D'Onofrio.

Jimbo took over n got n elite instantly, kids dont care who wins. Cory johnson went t kentucky for gods sake. Its more than what ur saying

Cory Johnson, like Valentine, was probably scared off by Miami's academic requirements. Like TV, he went to a very questionable school. It looks like that Brooklyn JUCO Johnson went to is the JUCO equivalent of Champagnat.

Don't forget, Champagnat is not accredited; it does not speak well for LSU that they're so willing to take a kid like that probably without providing a path to academic success in a real academic major. They probably promised him a P.E. major which UM does not have. They discard a lot of players after they get there, not only do they have a lower NCAA grad rate, but a lower federal grad rate, which looks at the overall percentage taking into consideration those who come in or leave the program.

A lot of these kids are very marginal students--they see their future as defined by football, not achieving a professional vocation. If they don't make it in football, they might end up coaching HS, or being a cop or security guard. Usually honorable professions (not always) but not professions that really require the intellectual development that academic courses in college might provide.

I think that's the issue with Wyche too. He probably dislikes school so much he was not willing to put in an extra semester of classes to come to the U.

Can we stop pretending any of these kids are here for anything but football? It's not our responsibility to force a kid to do something he's not interested in. But we do, and then they go elsewhere and we lose games. This school is closer to Bama than it is Duke, yet we have unrealistic standards bc of the **************.

Each kid is different. Don't assume every kid fits a stereotype. One of my classmates in college was an All-American in basketball and the second pick overall in the NBA draft. But he was also offered a Rhodes Scholarship to do graduate work at Oxford. His interests obviously went way beyond sports. Maybe it's YOU that only cares about football, and you think the kids are all like you. But not all of them are.

 

[dookie blaylock]

If we had coaches for crap, we'd have won more games, and we wouldn't have given up 500 yards a game.

FSU recruits well because they play well, and are coached well. Same-same with Alabama.

Look, you'll have some who want to stay home.

Others want to play for a winning program where they can play for the NC, and then the NFL. Those are the ones we're losing.

Get someone like Butch, start winning, playing aggressively with our ears laid back, and we'll keep a lot of those we want from S.FL. Not with Golden. Not with D'Onofrio.

Jimbo took over n got n elite instantly, kids dont care who wins. Cory johnson went t kentucky for gods sake. Its more than what ur saying

Cory Johnson, like Valentine, was probably scared off by Miami's academic requirements. Like TV, he went to a very questionable school. It looks like that Brooklyn JUCO Johnson went to is the JUCO equivalent of Champagnat.

Don't forget, Champagnat is not accredited; it does not speak well for LSU that they're so willing to take a kid like that probably without providing a path to academic success in a real academic major. They probably promised him a P.E. major which UM does not have. They discard a lot of players after they get there, not only do they have a lower NCAA grad rate, but a lower federal grad rate, which looks at the overall percentage taking into consideration those who come in or leave the program.

A lot of these kids are very marginal students--they see their future as defined by football, not achieving a professional vocation. If they don't make it in football, they might end up coaching HS, or being a cop or security guard. Usually honorable professions (not always) but not professions that really require the intellectual development that academic courses in college might provide.

I think that's the issue with Wyche too. He probably dislikes school so much he was not willing to put in an extra semester of classes to come to the U.

Can we stop pretending any of these kids are here for anything but football? It's not our responsibility to force a kid to do something he's not interested in. But we do, and then they go elsewhere and we lose games. This school is closer to Bama than it is Duke, yet we have unrealistic standards bc of the **************.

what about chad?

 

[The []_[]]

If we had coaches for crap, we'd have won more games, and we wouldn't have given up 500 yards a game.

FSU recruits well because they play well, and are coached well. Same-same with Alabama.

Look, you'll have some who want to stay home.

Others want to play for a winning program where they can play for the NC, and then the NFL. Those are the ones we're losing.

Get someone like Butch, start winning, playing aggressively with our ears laid back, and we'll keep a lot of those we want from S.FL. Not with Golden. Not with D'Onofrio.

FSU sucked till Winston. Are you serious?

I don't understand how they sucked.... and even with how "bad" they were, they still managed to recruit top 5 classes

I dont think many other coaches would fare well with what Miami has had on the roster since 2010. FSU has had top classes and Jameis took them over the hump. Bama has Saban and the SEC lure, A great QB will win you a few extra games. I dont think some of you fans realize Curtis Porter, Justin Renfrow, Luther Robinson and so on probably wouldnt start at the schools that we gave up those 500 yards to.

Another "talent" excuse.

Excuses are tools of incompetence

Bro you can say whatever you want, its obvious this team doesnt have the depth that it needs to compete at the level most of you stuck in the past cane fans expect. This isnt the Butch era anymore.

 

[dookie blaylock]

that level of cheating was happening before butch ever even got there lol.

I agree with that to but butch wasn't stopping anything.

You can't possibly be that dumb.

Haha ill keep my mouth shut. I could say a lot but ill be a man.


Butch hired a known agent. His name was on a ****ing website for agents for **** sake. He brought in his own personal tutor that was cheating for the kids. Dude you don't know ****. Go hunt a ****ing fictional character.

Yeap, and Donna took money from huge, well maybe taller than her, crook with a stupid smile on her face. NCCA gave Butch clean slate; Donna is one of their own and they raped us for three years. So, in short, if we don't want Butch as HC, then lets replace Donna with him. He does better with NCCA and can always help out recruiting like she does sometimes. Plus, I am sure he will fire Mark.

you mean the crook that the feds didn't even know was a crook at that time? i understand having an axe to grind if you have nothing invested in the school outside of the football team, but that's a retarded foundation for an argument against shalala.

 

[miamifan007]

This just ruined my weekend.......

Until i'm faded in a few hours of course

[video=youtube;LbouTdwOrVw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbouTdwOrVw[/video]

 

[The Franchise]

FSU sucked till Winston. Are you serious?

I don't understand how they sucked.... and even with how "bad" they were, they still managed to recruit top 5 classes

I dont think many other coaches would fare well with what Miami has had on the roster since 2010. FSU has had top classes and Jameis took them over the hump. Bama has Saban and the SEC lure, A great QB will win you a few extra games. I dont think some of you fans realize Curtis Porter, Justin Renfrow, Luther Robinson and so on probably wouldnt start at the schools that we gave up those 500 yards to.

Another "talent" excuse.

Excuses are tools of incompetence

Bro you can say whatever you want, its obvious this team doesnt have the depth that it needs to compete at the level most of you stuck in the past cane fans expect. This isnt the Butch era anymore.

If what you are saying is true, bro. Who is in the best position to fix the talent disparity, bro?

 

[Ibis Wingz]

I don't understand how they sucked.... and even with how "bad" they were, they still managed to recruit top 5 classes

I dont think many other coaches would fare well with what Miami has had on the roster since 2010. FSU has had top classes and Jameis took them over the hump. Bama has Saban and the SEC lure, A great QB will win you a few extra games. I dont think some of you fans realize Curtis Porter, Justin Renfrow, Luther Robinson and so on probably wouldnt start at the schools that we gave up those 500 yards to.

Another "talent" excuse.

Excuses are tools of incompetence

Bro you can say whatever you want, its obvious this team doesnt have the depth that it needs to compete at the level most of you stuck in the past cane fans expect. This isnt the Butch era anymore.

If what you are saying is true, bro. Who is in the best position to fix the talent disparity, bro?

Easy, the fans are in the best position to fix the talent disparity, but meanies like you scare off the top players.

Worst. Fans. Ever.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

But no one will care about academic standards when LSU plays in a BCS bowl ! No one!

Bomb and I will.

Enlightened post by a member of the intelligentsia.

 

[Miami82]

So it appears that the Foldin flunkies were right. Sapp killed it for us with TV. **** that Warren Sapp...

 

[Miami82]

I dont think many other coaches would fare well with what Miami has had on the roster since 2010. FSU has had top classes and Jameis took them over the hump. Bama has Saban and the SEC lure, A great QB will win you a few extra games. I dont think some of you fans realize Curtis Porter, Justin Renfrow, Luther Robinson and so on probably wouldnt start at the schools that we gave up those 500 yards to.

Another "talent" excuse.

Excuses are tools of incompetence

Bro you can say whatever you want, its obvious this team doesnt have the depth that it needs to compete at the level most of you stuck in the past cane fans expect. This isnt the Butch era anymore.

If what you are saying is true, bro. Who is in the best position to fix the talent disparity, bro?

Easy, the fans are in the best position to fix the talent disparity, but meanies like you scare off the top players.

Worst. Fans. Ever.

And all your recruiting dreams will come true.