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On the plus side here a shocker , in the glory days we won games like this .

like Ed Reed was lateraled to and we won and a few wide right/ left as examples.

I look around CFB and top teams have won on last minute drives.

This is not uncommon for teams with intestinal fortitude to WIN like this at times.

It does make them stronger to know we can do it against all odds.

We’ll lay waste to VT as we start to BELIEVE we belong and want Clemson again.

GOCANES
 
JD08 said:
There are 4 more games, we'll get there. The cornerbacks leave a lot to be desired also.
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The corners aren’t great. They occasionally get beat but linebackers are terrible on every play
 
DTP said:
Then who do you consider to be “good”? I mean yes, we can all agree that the top 5 teams are all pretty good but is that where it ends? Because you can find significant faults with pretty much every team after that.
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On our schedule? Clemson and maybe UNC. Pitt is good but we played them without Picket and struggled. How much stock do you put into that game? Do we beat NC State with their starting QB? I’m not sold we do. VT just lost to Liberty and are favored to beat us. I guess they’re good but I’m not even sure. At the end of the season, Pitt, Nc state, VT, Louisville, may all have 4-5 losses. Is that good?
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
After a thorough examination of your porsting history, I’ve come to the inescapable conclusion that you are an insufferable ****.

You are actually teeing it up so that if we do manage go 10-1, which is no guarantee btw, you can beat your caved-in bird chest and say we still suck. Not only that, you sound like a bitter hag that’s cheering for us to lose, including a bowl game loss.

Slap yourself you hoe.
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Projecting much? For someone who doesn’t value my opinion, you sure have a funny way of showing it. I wouldn’t discuss posting history considering you spent the majority of your time obsessing over fans on this board. Feel free to slip and slide your way to the ignore button.
 
Hurracanes said:
On our schedule? Clemson and maybe UNC. Pitt is good but we played them without Picket and struggled. How much stock do you put into that game? Do we beat NC State with their starting QB? I’m not sold we do. VT just lost to Liberty and are favored to beat us. I guess they’re good but I’m not even sure. At the end of the season, Pitt, Nc state, VT, Louisville, may all have 4-5 losses. Is that good?
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Not just our schedule. Who, besides pretty much the top 6 teams would you be impressed by beating? What’s your standard for “good”? You could say Oregon or Wisconsin but they’ve only played one game and it’s entirely possible for them to lose two or three games this year. I mean look at the top 25. It’s not exactly loaded with unbeatable juggernauts.
 
DTP said:
Not just our schedule. Who, besides pretty much the top 6 teams would you be impressed by beating? What’s your standard for “good”? You could say Oregon or Wisconsin but they’ve only played one game and it’s entirely possible for them to lose two or three games this year. I mean look at the top 25. It’s not exactly loaded with unbeatable juggernauts.
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I agree! Franchise and D$ had a great discussion about above average programs and who should be In that category. I have no problem putting Wisconsin, Oregon, Georgia, Oklahoma (they seem to have turned things around), in that category, off the top of my head. 2020 is a weird season so it’s difficult to evaluate programs.

That being said, because of our Defense, I do not believe Miami belongs in that category, yet. Certainly, no one we have played, thus far, not named Clemson.
 
Our next 5 games are against the 6, 11, 7 and 5 teams in the ACC.
 
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Hurracanes said:
Projecting much? For someone who doesn’t value my opinion, you sure have a funny way of showing it. I wouldn’t discuss posting history considering you spent the majority of your time obsessing over fans on this board. Feel free to slip and slide your way to the ignore button.
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Why should I put you on ignore when I get my daily laughs at your bltchy ***.
 
Hurracanes said:
I agree! Franchise and D$ had a great discussion about above average programs and who should be In that category. I have no problem putting Wisconsin, Oregon, Georgia, Oklahoma (they seem to have turned things around), in that category, off the top of my head. 2020 is a weird season so it’s difficult to evaluate programs.

That being said, because of our Defense, I do not believe Miami belongs in that category, yet. Certainly, no one we have played, thus far, not named Clemson.
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I would have to put Miami just outside that second tier or teams also. Too much uncertainty on defense for me. That’s not saying they wouldn’t beat any of those teams, I just wouldn’t be confident. Realistically, I’d rank them somewhere between 15-20. Not the final destination I want but a significant upgrade over the last 15 years or so.
 
Go Canes!! said:
Outside of Friday, can you show me a bad half of meaningful football this team has played this season?
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You’ve gotta be kidding me if you think Baker and Rumph and/or even Patke should be here coRching on defense. And @Paranos I right about Stroud - I should’ve taken what he said with the authority it deserves on the big guys. They’re not developing in technique alike they did with Simpson. Or Kul. Here’s an idea for you to chew on:

Move Stroud to recruiting and bring in Kevin Patrick from FAU.

Replace Rumph with DVD and let him have a chance.

Replace Patke with Devin Bush, Sr.

Replace Baker with any of that guys @Liberty City El suggested like Marcus Freeman at Cincinnati or even T-Rob at USCe. **** at this point, I think Muschamp will be available but he has Saban Bama Analyst written all over home.

Banda can stay. He’s a dog on the trail.

You’re reaching new levels of Slurpery this season if you’re falling on the Baker sword.
 
RVACane said:
You’ve gotta be kidding me if you think Baker and Rumph and/or even Patke should be here coRching on defense. And @Paranos I right about Stroud - I should’ve taken what he said with the authority it deserves on the big guys. They’re not developing in technique alike they did with Simpson. Or Kul. Here’s an idea for you to chew on:

Move Stroud to recruiting and bring in Kevin Patrick from FAU.

Replace Rumph with DVD and let him have a chance.

Replace Patke with Devin Bush, Sr.

Replace Baker with any of that guys @Liberty City El suggested like Marcus Freeman at Cincinnati or even T-Rob at USCe. **** at this point, I think Muschamp will be available but he has Saban Bama Analyst written all over home.

Banda can stay. He’s a dog on the trail.

You’re reaching new levels of Slurpery this season if you’re falling on the Baker sword.
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You didn't answer the question.
 
BeastMode said:
liberty is actually really good and has a better coach than we do.

Also Va Tech can score points, at home, off a bad loss and looking for a bounce back.

Miami has squeaked by the last 3 games and not looked good.

not hard to see how vegas thinks this is an even matchup. Home team always gets 3 points to start with.
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Squeaked by? Pitt and UVA were not squeaked by wins. We dominated them. We found a way to beat NCST. We will blow them out. Jump on that early.
 
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@Go Canes!!

I have always said that Manny's defense only works well when it has a very good to elite Dline coach. Which it had at LaTech, Miss ST, and his first 3 years at Miami. At La Tech Blake Baker had Rick Petri so the defense generated pressure from the dline and Bakers blitzes worked due to added dline pressure.

Currently our dline gets pressure through effort not advanced technique or combination moves. Our linemen can't disengage if they don't beat opposing off the snap because they aren't utilizing proper hand fighting techniques. Exhibit A Jalen Phillips, 2 years under Stroud and Phillips has Turrible Techinique but plays 200 mph with incredible heart.

Here is something I have preached for years as invaluable. I even suggested to UM staff to bring this guy in as a consultant for a few weeks in the off season last year.


Notice Jess Simpson emphasized Hand fighting and disengagement from the oline. It's not a coincidence his dline generated more pressure.


Go Canes
 
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RVACane said:
You’ve gotta be kidding me if you think Baker and Rumph and/or even Patke should be here coRching on defense. And @Paranos I right about Stroud - I should’ve taken what he said with the authority it deserves on the big guys. They’re not developing in technique alike they did with Simpson. Or Kul. Here’s an idea for you to chew on:

Move Stroud to recruiting and bring in Kevin Patrick from FAU.

Replace Rumph with DVD and let him have a chance.

Replace Patke with Devin Bush, Sr.

Replace Baker with any of that guys @Liberty City El suggested like Marcus Freeman at Cincinnati or even T-Rob at USCe. **** at this point, I think Muschamp will be available but he has Saban Bama Analyst written all over home.

Banda can stay. He’s a dog on the trail.

You’re reaching new levels of Slurpery this season if you’re falling on the Baker sword.
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Usually if you hire a new DC, he’s going to want to bring at least some of his staff with him.
 
DTP said:
Usually if you hire a new DC, he’s going to want to bring at least some of his staff with him.
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I don’t think that’s the only problem here when you see the way we are lining up pre-snap.
 
DTP said:
Usually if you hire a new DC, he’s going to want to bring at least some of his staff with him.
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No legit Coordinator wouldn’t bring his own people. This is why I think Manny doesn’t make the change.
 
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