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UPDATED: Mark Matthews commits to TAMU

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BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
I saw those shot put numbers also. You ever try hucking that thing? I threw it like 30’ or so when I was in high school. Average for sure. These mega elite athletes are just on another level.
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Bro, yes. Once in middle school; after picking it up, didn’t even bother to throw it.
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I don’t remember my exact measurement. Mediocre all day. Your reaction is exactly my point. Cantwell threw that ******* thing over 25 yards.

Wait til he learns how to drink beer.
 
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sfcane2 said:
Ha. At least with Cantwell, he has a verifiable trait. Based on his shot put, he's the most powerful high school football player ever. He's also enormous physically. My daughter runs track and competes at the Nike Outdoor Nationals. We were there last spring. Here's Cantwell standing next to the other shot putters. He's just a massive dude who has a power profile that's never been seen in the sport. His throw was 76'11". To put that into perspective, Vince Wilfork holds the Florida state record at 68 feet. Ndamakun Suh and JJ Watt were state champs who threw 61 and 59 feet. That is a massive difference. Brandon Sheriff and Gerald McCoy were also good shot putters and threw around 60 feet. One thing I can safely say is that if he was able to engage with Bain he would be able to hold his ground. I can also say that if Bain and almost any other HS tackle were engaged Bain would run over them. A test for me is if you can survive contact with a grown man pass rusher.
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vince wilfork was the furthest i ever sheen a shot put thrown.

my dad was a hs track coach down here and went to one of the meets an this was a younger vince cause i think i was in the 9th grade then.

Cantwell throw is crazy lol
 
Hegemon said:
Cliffs

I missed 22 pages
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Does he not throw discus or shotput? My uncle is at track regionals today and he's not listed anywhere
 
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SCarolina Ibis said:
That would be @Lance Roffers who is pretty well respected around here.

Fwiw, 247's pro comparison for Matthews is former 13th overall pick and 3x All Pro Tristan Wirfs.
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Matthews has the feet to do vertical sets like the great Joe Thomas. It's magical.

I am not saying he will be a HOF'er, I'm saying he has the feet of the greats. He also has warts of a HS player. Which I actually talked about quite a bit.

Due to his traits, if he stays healthy, I'm confident he goes 1st round.

Like everything in this era, it will be brought up and remembered if he doesn't. Which I'm prepared for. Part of the deal.

Cosell is a good film evaluator. Better than me. I honestly don't agree with him as much as I do. But even if I wanted to I wouldn't try and be Cosell. It would just guarantee I'm a worse version of him since I am not him.

Matthews is a special prospect to my eyes. If he turns out to be, great. If he doesn't, it will be ok as well.
 
sfcane2 said:
Did anyone hear the analysis? I have no idea who the analyst is but he lost all credibility when he said Mathew’s was a reincarnation of Joe Thomas and was guaranteed to be a 1st round pick in 3 years. I couldn’t tell if he was kidding or not but that’s a level of hyperbole that loses all credibility. Listen to someone like Greg Cosell talk about traits and compare it to what they were saying. I mean who seriously compares a high school kid to a hall of fame tackle.

Imagine during the draft last week and the announcers said- Mendoza, the next Tom Brady, Bailey, the next Reggie White, Love, the next Walter Payton, Tate the next Jerry Rice. And that’s with players who have 3 years of college tape. Im sorry but comparing a high schooler to Joe Thomas shows serious judgement issues.

Also look at all the mock drafts and see how they play out a year later. And that’s with college tape.
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Fair enough. Appreciate you providing feedback.

I see HOF feet. Thomas was special because he vertical set was better than any LT in history thanks to his feet. 45 degree sets, vertical sets...he was the best.

He also has a lot to work on (independent hand usage, handling power in his chest, he doesn't have the length of Olu). Plays high and likes to bully second level more than he does DL.

My intention was to outline how special I believe him to be as a HS prospect. His traits are elite. If he doesn't go first round after a mostly healthy college career, feel free to flame me.

I'm merely doing the best I can and if I were always right on this stuff I'd be making millions in the NFL rather than doing Finance.
 
Lance Roffers said:
Matthews has the feet to do vertical sets like the great Joe Thomas. It's magical.

I am not saying he will be a HOF'er, I'm saying he has the feet of the greats. He also has warts of a HS player. Which I actually talked about quite a bit.

Due to his traits, if he stays healthy, I'm confident he goes 1st round.

Like everything in this era, it will be brought up and remembered if he doesn't. Which I'm prepared for. Part of the deal.

Cosell is a good film evaluator. Better than me. I honestly don't agree with him as much as I do. But even if I wanted to I wouldn't try and be Cosell. It would just guarantee I'm a worse version of him since I am not him.

Matthews is a special prospect to my eyes. If he turns out to be, great. If he doesn't, it will be ok as well.
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I'm with you. I was pointing out that 247's comp for Matthews also happens to be one of the best tackles in football.
 
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Lance Roffers said:
SCarolina Ibis said:
That would be @Lance Roffers who is pretty well respected around here.

Fwiw, 247's pro comparison for Matthews is former 13th overall pick and 3x All Pro Tristan Wirfs.
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Matthews has the feet to do vertical sets like the great Joe Thomas. It's magical.

I am not saying he will be a HOF'er, I'm saying he has the feet of the greats. He also has warts of a HS player. Which I actually talked about quite a bit.

Due to his traits, if he stays healthy, I'm confident he goes 1st round.

Like everything in this era, it will be brought up and remembered if he doesn't. Which I'm prepared for. Part of the deal.

Cosell is a good film evaluator. Better than me. I honestly don't agree with him as much as I do. But even if I wanted to I wouldn't try and be Cosell. It would just guarantee I'm a worse version of him since I am not him.

Matthews is a special prospect to my eyes. If he turns out to be, great. If he doesn't, it will be ok as well.
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He’s also 280 lbs max. He needs to put on 30lbs. I don’t see day 1 starter but once he gets weight he’ll be great.
 
Lance Roffers said:
Fair enough. Appreciate you providing feedback.

I see HOF feet. Thomas was special because he vertical set was better than any LT in history thanks to his feet. 45 degree sets, vertical sets...he was the best.

He also has a lot to work on (independent hand usage, handling power in his chest, he doesn't have the length of Olu). Plays high and likes to bully second level more than he does DL.

My intention was to outline how special I believe him to be as a HS prospect. His traits are elite. If he doesn't go first round after a mostly healthy college career, feel free to flame me.

I'm merely doing the best I can and if I were always right on this stuff I'd be making millions in the NFL rather than doing Finance.
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Can you give us the skinny on Olu?
 
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