Update to the Recruiting section of the site today

[90scane]

83+24=105 Looks about right! Thought Tyreic Martin was on a ship though

Also, while Gordinier could get a 6th year he can't apply until the end of his senior year. That puts him in the So class for the time being.

No chance Young got a RS.

 

[Andrew]

I've added Tyreic and updated Young to the correct class. UM's listed some folks wrong before so I will do another pass through after more 2017 guys start enrolling.

 

[teddywestside]

We have 81 kids on schollie. And 11 seniors.

Add that up and we have 15 minimum schollies to give for 2018. We're obviously going to far exceed that, just like last year when newbs were predicting we'd have room for only 20-22 kids, we ended up with 24 kids with room for at least 4 more.

We're planning to take a minimum of 26 kids, maximum of 30 if the numbers will allow.

1 QB
2 RB
4-5 WR
1-2 TE (depending on Njoku's transition to TE)
4 OL
3-4 DT
1 DE
2-3 LB
4 CB
3 S
1 K

 

[90scane]

I've added Tyreic and updated Young to the correct class. UM's listed some folks wrong before so I will do another pass through after more 2017 guys start enrolling.

[MENTION=1]Andrew[/MENTION]
Gordinier or Patchan still need to get moved. Sure both could play a sixth year but they have to apply for it.

 

[Cans4life]

FAKE NEWS.

 

[KrazyCane]

**** i didnt know Anthony Moten was a Senior already.... our DT depth is going to look like **** after this season. Definitely going to need all we can get in terms of possible JUCO, Grad, and regular transfers is concerned.

 

[Geo305]

FAKE NEWS.

It's not done lol, taking more time than I thought because what's existing is missing a lot. When it's done, I'll post it.

 

[calinative umstudent]

Thanks [MENTION=1]Andrew[/MENTION] chart looks great now.

I think we get a full class of 25 this yr. definitely don't want to oversign too much, don't think anything over 27 is smart or reasonable

 

[KrazyCane]

Thanks [MENTION=1]Andrew[/MENTION] chart looks great now.

I think we get a full class of 25 this yr. definitely don't want to oversign too much, don't think anything over 27 is smart or reasonable

why does it matter to you?

 

[calinative umstudent]

Thanks [MENTION=1]Andrew[/MENTION] chart looks great now.

I think we get a full class of 25 this yr. definitely don't want to oversign too much, don't think anything over 27 is smart or reasonable

why does it matter to you?

Why does oversigning matter to me? Because it significantly impacts future classes. Breaking news but if we sign 30 this class that would mean a max of like 13 next class. We already are kinda screwed for next class, and would need a **** load of attrition no matter what. But if we only get 25 this class it means around 15-18 next yr

 

[teddywestside]

Thanks [MENTION=1]Andrew[/MENTION] chart looks great now.

I think we get a full class of 25 this yr. definitely don't want to oversign too much, don't think anything over 27 is smart or reasonable

why does it matter to you?

Why does oversigning matter to me? Because it significantly impacts future classes. Breaking news but if we sign 30 this class that would mean a max of like 13 next class. We already are kinda screwed for next class, and would need a **** load of attrition no matter what. But if we only get 25 this class it means around 15-18 next yr

There will be attrition next year. That 13 number will rise to 20+ when kids transfer out, JRs leave for the NFL, and kids get dismissed.

 

[90scane]

[MENTION=1]Andrew[/MENTION]

Two more things

1. We have 14 freshmen, may need to have yet another column for LOI not enrolled to capture the 10 kids who haven't arrived yet.
2. FREShMEN, minor caps on the H. I'm sure I'll take some heat for that one.

 

[KrazyCane]

Thanks [MENTION=1]Andrew[/MENTION] chart looks great now.

I think we get a full class of 25 this yr. definitely don't want to oversign too much, don't think anything over 27 is smart or reasonable

why does it matter to you?

Why does oversigning matter to me? Because it significantly impacts future classes. Breaking news but if we sign 30 this class that would mean a max of like 13 next class. We already are kinda screwed for next class, and would need a **** load of attrition no matter what. But if we only get 25 this class it means around 15-18 next yr

There will be attrition next year. That 13 number will rise to 20+ when kids transfer out, JRs leave for the NFL, and kids get dismissed.

Even if we only could sign 13 players next year, that means we have a full squad so i still dont see why it matters.

 

[Harpdog]

**** i didnt know Anthony Moten was a Senior already.... our DT depth is going to look like **** after this season. Definitely going to need all we can get in terms of possible JUCO, Grad, and regular transfers is concerned.

Probably a stupid thought, but if you were Andrew Moten would you consider redshirting this year and letting the 3 DL you know are ahead of you hopefully go pro. Then come back as a red Shirt senior and get more playing time.

 

[calinative umstudent]

Thanks [MENTION=1]Andrew[/MENTION] chart looks great now.

I think we get a full class of 25 this yr. definitely don't want to oversign too much, don't think anything over 27 is smart or reasonable

why does it matter to you?

Why does oversigning matter to me? Because it significantly impacts future classes. Breaking news but if we sign 30 this class that would mean a max of like 13 next class. We already are kinda screwed for next class, and would need a **** load of attrition no matter what. But if we only get 25 this class it means around 15-18 next yr

There will be attrition next year. That 13 number will rise to 20+ when kids transfer out, JRs leave for the NFL, and kids get dismissed.

Even if we only could sign 13 players next year, that means we have a full squad so i still dont see why it matters.

Because it messes the order of everything up. And you end up with 10 seniors like we have this yr, which is just bad. You want 15-20 graduating per yr. you can't consistently win when you have only 31 upperclassmen like we have this yr. also 13 was very generous.
We have 4 open spots, 10 seniors and 21 juniors. If all those guys leave that means we have 35 total spots open for these next two classes (if no sophomores or freshman leave). So if we sign 30 this yr (not happening) it would only allow us to sign5 players. Ext yr if no one that are currently sophomores and freshman leave. And the absolute most I can possibly see us losing that are currently fr/so are like 8-9 guys which is just unlikely. So again, it is very important to not excessively sign. Also it's hard enough getting 20-25 guys without having a lot of misses. Signing 30 would mean getting quite a few jags. I really don't get why you don't already understand this if you follow recruiting.

 

[teddywestside]

why does it matter to you?

Why does oversigning matter to me? Because it significantly impacts future classes. Breaking news but if we sign 30 this class that would mean a max of like 13 next class. We already are kinda screwed for next class, and would need a **** load of attrition no matter what. But if we only get 25 this class it means around 15-18 next yr

There will be attrition next year. That 13 number will rise to 20+ when kids transfer out, JRs leave for the NFL, and kids get dismissed.

Even if we only could sign 13 players next year, that means we have a full squad so i still dont see why it matters.

Because it messes the order of everything up. And you end up with 10 seniors like we have this yr, which is just bad. You want 15-20 graduating per yr. you can't consistently win when you have only 31 upperclassmen like we have this yr. also 13 was very generous.
We have 4 open spots, 10 seniors and 21 juniors. If all those guys leave that means we have 35 total spots open for these next two classes (if no sophomores or freshman leave). So if we sign 30 this yr (not happening) it would only allow us to sign5 players. Ext yr if no one that are currently sophomores and freshman leave. And the absolute most I can possibly see us losing that are currently fr/so are like 8-9 guys which is just unlikely. So again, it is very important to not excessively sign. Also it's hard enough getting 20-25 guys without having a lot of misses. Signing 30 would mean getting quite a few jags. I really don't get why you don't already understand this if you follow recruiting.

Bruh, you keep forgetting about attrition. We ain't gonna have a 13 man class in 2019 even if we sign 30 kids in 2018.

And why would signing a big 28-30 man class include a lot of jags? Are you talking about general "odds" that some highly rated kids end up as busts? Because otherwise, im pretty sure every single kid on this 30 man list is a stud 4 star prospect.

1 QB - Sitkapowski
2 RB - Lingard, Davis
5 WR - Wiggins, Hightower, Pope, Austin, Moore
1 TE - Jordan
5 OL - Dunlap, Reed, Scaife, Qadir White, Montilius
4 DT - Davis, Silvera, Glen Logan (transfer), Chatman
1 DE - Rousseau
3 LB - Louis, Reese, Sherwood
4 CB - Jobe, Campbell, Blades, Ivey
3 S - Russell, Hall, Frierson
1 K - McPherson

 

[calinative umstudent]

Why does oversigning matter to me? Because it significantly impacts future classes. Breaking news but if we sign 30 this class that would mean a max of like 13 next class. We already are kinda screwed for next class, and would need a **** load of attrition no matter what. But if we only get 25 this class it means around 15-18 next yr

There will be attrition next year. That 13 number will rise to 20+ when kids transfer out, JRs leave for the NFL, and kids get dismissed.

Even if we only could sign 13 players next year, that means we have a full squad so i still dont see why it matters.

Because it messes the order of everything up. And you end up with 10 seniors like we have this yr, which is just bad. You want 15-20 graduating per yr. you can't consistently win when you have only 31 upperclassmen like we have this yr. also 13 was very generous.
We have 4 open spots, 10 seniors and 21 juniors. If all those guys leave that means we have 35 total spots open for these next two classes (if no sophomores or freshman leave). So if we sign 30 this yr (not happening) it would only allow us to sign5 players. Ext yr if no one that are currently sophomores and freshman leave. And the absolute most I can possibly see us losing that are currently fr/so are like 8-9 guys which is just unlikely. So again, it is very important to not excessively sign. Also it's hard enough getting 20-25 guys without having a lot of misses. Signing 30 would mean getting quite a few jags. I really don't get why you don't already understand this if you follow recruiting.

Bruh, you keep forgetting about attrition. We ain't gonna have a 13 man class in 2019 even if we sign 30 kids in 2018.

And why would signing a big 28-30 man class include a lot of jags? Are you talking about general "odds" that some highly rated kids end up as busts? Because otherwise, im pretty sure every single kid on this 30 man list is a stud 4 star prospect.

1 QB - Sitkapowski
2 RB - Lingard, Davis
5 WR - Wiggins, Hightower, Pope, Austin, Moore
1 TE - Jordan
5 OL - Dunlap, Reed, Scaife, Qadir White, Montilius
4 DT - Davis, Silvera, Glen Logan (transfer), Chatman
1 DE - Rousseau
3 LB - Louis, Reese, Sherwood
4 CB - Jobe, Campbell, Blades, Ivey
3 S - Russell, Hall, Frierson
1 K - McPherson

Please explain what attrition I'm forgetting when I already include around 8 current sophomores and freshman leaving to even get to a 2019 signing class of 13.
We should only get 4wrs, 3-4ol, 2lbs...and it doesn't look likely at all that glen logan will even transfer let alone transfer to us. And personally wouldn't be surprised if Russell didn't end up in this class. But honestly I don't even know how you think we get to 30 this class! Obviously we will have 10 seniors and 4 remaining roster spots (1 will belong to Delaney), so no matter what we will have 14 spots. But we have 21 juniors, expecting over half or 2/3rds of them to leave early would already be expecting a lot, and that would only give us 21 spots. And I'm probably off on the numbers by a few here or there, but we should aim for 20-25 per yr...not 30

Is it theoretically possible to sign 30 this yr? Sure. It's it reasonable? No. Should we? No.

 

[gatorsSUCK!]

Nice work guys, thanks

 

[teddywestside]

There will be attrition next year. That 13 number will rise to 20+ when kids transfer out, JRs leave for the NFL, and kids get dismissed.

Even if we only could sign 13 players next year, that means we have a full squad so i still dont see why it matters.

Because it messes the order of everything up. And you end up with 10 seniors like we have this yr, which is just bad. You want 15-20 graduating per yr. you can't consistently win when you have only 31 upperclassmen like we have this yr. also 13 was very generous.
We have 4 open spots, 10 seniors and 21 juniors. If all those guys leave that means we have 35 total spots open for these next two classes (if no sophomores or freshman leave). So if we sign 30 this yr (not happening) it would only allow us to sign5 players. Ext yr if no one that are currently sophomores and freshman leave. And the absolute most I can possibly see us losing that are currently fr/so are like 8-9 guys which is just unlikely. So again, it is very important to not excessively sign. Also it's hard enough getting 20-25 guys without having a lot of misses. Signing 30 would mean getting quite a few jags. I really don't get why you don't already understand this if you follow recruiting.

Bruh, you keep forgetting about attrition. We ain't gonna have a 13 man class in 2019 even if we sign 30 kids in 2018.

And why would signing a big 28-30 man class include a lot of jags? Are you talking about general "odds" that some highly rated kids end up as busts? Because otherwise, im pretty sure every single kid on this 30 man list is a stud 4 star prospect.

1 QB - Sitkapowski
2 RB - Lingard, Davis
5 WR - Wiggins, Hightower, Pope, Austin, Moore
1 TE - Jordan
5 OL - Dunlap, Reed, Scaife, Qadir White, Montilius
4 DT - Davis, Silvera, Glen Logan (transfer), Chatman
1 DE - Rousseau
3 LB - Louis, Reese, Sherwood
4 CB - Jobe, Campbell, Blades, Ivey
3 S - Russell, Hall, Frierson
1 K - McPherson

Please explain what attrition I'm forgetting when I already include around 8 current sophomores and freshman leaving to even get to a 2019 signing class of 13.
We should only get 4wrs, 3-4ol, 2lbs...and it doesn't look likely at all that glen logan will even transfer let alone transfer to us. And personally wouldn't be surprised if Russell didn't end up in this class. But honestly I don't even know how you think we get to 30 this class! Obviously we will have 10 seniors and 4 remaining roster spots (1 will belong to Delaney), so no matter what we will have 14 spots. But we have 21 juniors, expecting over half or 2/3rds of them to leave early would already be expecting a lot, and that would only give us 21 spots. And I'm probably off on the numbers by a few here or there, but we should aim for 20-25 per yr...not 30

Is it theoretically possible to sign 30 this yr? Sure. It's it reasonable? No. Should we? No.

In addition to the few remaining true JRs who will graduate after 2018 season, plenty of rFR, SO, and rSO on the current team won't be around by the time August 2019 rolls around, both voluntarily and involuntarily. These are kids that weren't recruited by Richt or were part of the transitional class. The incoming 30 will supplant them. This is how you overhaul a team in 3 years.

To make room for a 30 man 2018 class, we need 15 attrition to go with 11 SRs graduating and the 4 open schollies. The 15 attrition includes some early NFL departures (Willis, Mcintosh, Norton, Walton) and plenty of attrition (Gray, Langham, Dayall Harris, etc)

Once we get that, the 2018 season will bring about more attrition to get a 20 man class for 2019. Here are the 20 kids who will leave after 2018, either by graduating (current true JRs) or by attrition (current SOs or FR who will leave early for NFL, expulsion, or transfer):

Allison
Haskins
Cager
Mullins
Richards
St Louis
Jahair Jones
Mahoney
D Jackson
Patchan
Fines
Perry
McCloud
Pinckney
Owens
Smith
Redwine
Dean
M Jackson
J Johnson

 

[umhurricane2511]

So where is this thing?