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University School vs Homestead Game Thread (11AM ESPNU)

DMoney said:
LuCane said:
Ermon Lane is talented. He's the type who needs to be in the right culture, though. If he wants to make the big money later on, he has to grow as a player physically and be pushed mentally (behavior). It's actually in his best interest to go to a structured environment like Miami or Alabama. There are guys, like Stacy Coley or Artie Burns, who seem to be natural born killers. There are other guys who need to be in the right environment in order to max out their talent.
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Strongly disagree. You used Stacy Coley as an example, but Coley's antics were 100X worse in high school. He often lashed out at his own team and took plays off out of frustration.

I left today's game at halftime and missed a chunk of the third, but I've seen Lane play a ton and he is a competitor. Unlike many receivers, he plays the entire game (WR, defense, ST) and does so willingly.

What you saw today is what he deals with every Friday. He doesn't need to be pushed, he just needs some help around him. When he goes to college and only needs to worry about doing his own job, his talent will show.
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I used Coley as an example of being a killer. Two different things. I've seen nothing from TODAY'S game that shows Ermon Lane comes close to that mindset.

No one is saying he isn't talented, though he doesn't pop in and out of his cuts to the level he was billed. He's not this other-wordly talent that stands 3 cuts above the competition. That doesn't mean he won't do very well in college. It means I think you and Pete fell in love with this guy too early - at least based on last year's reviews of this superhuman talent.
 
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Quincy Wilson with the pick 6. That was the difference this game Homestead still had time to get back into the game.
 
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DMoney said:
LuCane said:
Ermon Lane is talented. He's the type who needs to be in the right culture, though. If he wants to make the big money later on, he has to grow as a player physically and be pushed mentally (behavior). It's actually in his best interest to go to a structured environment like Miami or Alabama. There are guys, like Stacy Coley or Artie Burns, who seem to be natural born killers. There are other guys who need to be in the right environment in order to max out their talent.
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Strongly disagree. You used Stacy Coley as an example, but Coley's antics were 100X worse in high school. He often lashed out at his own team and took plays off out of frustration.

I left today's game at halftime and missed a chunk of the third, but I've seen Lane play a ton and he is a competitor. Unlike many receivers, he plays the entire game (WR, defense, ST) and does so willingly.

What you saw today is what he deals with every Friday. He doesn't need to be pushed, he just needs some help around him. When he goes to college and only needs to worry about doing his own job, his talent will show.
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Walking on every play to line up has nothing to do with the help he has around him.
 
dycane said:
An elite player, ranked second at his position in the country, should easily dominate in this game. Lane has done anything but dominate. He just strikes me as a major project from a mental standpoint. This guy may be talented, but he's far from a huge loss. I'd rather have Dixon, Langham, or Rudolph.
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But did Dixon dominate yesterday against central? No because of multiple factors. Same thing lane is dealing with today. Your reasoning doesn't hold true. It's one thing to think the latter are better prospects, another thing to have faulty reasoning.
 
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LuCane said:
I used Coley as an example of being a killer. Two different things. I've seen nothing from TODAY'S game that shows Ermon Lane comes close to that mindset.

No one is saying he isn't talented, though he doesn't pop in and out of his cuts to the level he was billed. He's not this other-wordly talent that stands 3 cuts above the competition. That doesn't mean he won't do very well in college. It means I think you and Pete fell in love with this guy too early.
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Check back with me in three years. I still believe he will be an absolute star in college.

Homestead can't get him the ball because the OL is overmatched. If he switched uniforms (or commitments), we'd all be singing a different tune. I agree that he's not elite in-and-out of his breaks. That's his biggest weakness and the reason why Stacey Coley is the better player. But he is phenomenal at everything else and has proven it over the course of his career.
 
LuCane said:
DMoney said:
LuCane said:
Ermon Lane is talented. He's the type who needs to be in the right culture, though. If he wants to make the big money later on, he has to grow as a player physically and be pushed mentally (behavior). It's actually in his best interest to go to a structured environment like Miami or Alabama. There are guys, like Stacy Coley or Artie Burns, who seem to be natural born killers. There are other guys who need to be in the right environment in order to max out their talent.
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Strongly disagree. You used Stacy Coley as an example, but Coley's antics were 100X worse in high school. He often lashed out at his own team and took plays off out of frustration.

I left today's game at halftime and missed a chunk of the third, but I've seen Lane play a ton and he is a competitor. Unlike many receivers, he plays the entire game (WR, defense, ST) and does so willingly.

What you saw today is what he deals with every Friday. He doesn't need to be pushed, he just needs some help around him. When he goes to college and only needs to worry about doing his own job, his talent will show.
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I used Coley as an example of being a killer. Two different things. I've seen nothing from TODAY'S game that shows Ermon Lane comes close to that mindset.

No one is saying he isn't talented, though he doesn't pop in and out of his cuts to the level he was billed. He's not this other-wordly talent that stands 3 cuts above the competition. That doesn't mean he won't do very well in college. It means I think you and Pete fell in love with this guy too early - at least based on last year's reviews of this superhuman talent.
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This. After watching many of these prospects play, it only reinforces my thoughts of "Thank God Ariz and the rest of the Canesinsight reporting staff arent Canes coaches. Trust our coaching staff and their evals...take the CI staff's opinions as info, but I wouldn't go all-in on them.
 
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