Under the radar coach you would like

We have hired three under the radar coaches, and all three have been unmitigated disasters!

How about doing something different, hiring a winner?
 
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We have hired three under the radar coaches, and all three have been unmitigated disasters!

How about doing something different, hiring a winner?

UM has never had the $ to steal away a top CFB coach. Plus, beside Saban and Meyer (both are scum and would have UM back on probation within 5 yrs), who's a surefire lock?? CFB is a totally different animal than the NFL. There are some many variables (recruiting, ability to relate to alumni, etc) that can make a CFB coach successful in one school and a failure in another.

Question for those in the know, why has Patterson been at TCU so long? Its not like ppl aren't noticing the success he's had..
 
He's making 3+ million a year and has a great program and support from the school! he has had offers from other programs but TCU always bumps his pay up to keep him. I personally think that last 2 season 7-6 and 4-8 will open his eyes to other jobs.
 
Looking at TCUs schedule I doubt he wins more than 6 games this year with the squad he has now, if Miami plays that schedule were definitely below 500 with the current staff. Another bad year and who knows he might be enticed to jump ship. I seriously doubt they'd fire him.
 
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I expect him to regroup and get better but he will have his work cut out to win the Big 12. UCF with George Oleary is an even better example than FIU, they have experienced a little success in their conference recently. if they move up to the ACC do you expect that success to continue going head to head with UF, FSU, And Miami in recruiting? They will win a few games but It will take a couple years for them to be relevant again

There is not much of a difference between CUSA and AAC. In addition UCF got a player that changed the game for them (Bortles). He is what an elite QB can do to a team.

How are they going to improve if nothing changes (recruiting wise) and all they're doing is playing more games in the conference. The coaching staff remains the same, the quality of players remains the same. At lease Patterson tried to change something (new offense) to change the game.

My point is when you go against more difficult competition at the same program; you're potentially exposing yourself as a poor coach. Sure you can beat the bad, but can you beat the good.

I'm not really sure what you mean by that, my point is That if UCF were to enter the ACC or SEC they would be in the same position as TCU is in currently. They get what's left after the big three schools choose who they want. Gary has to recruit better players to get better results in the Big 12 with that schedule. They had to change their offense cause You've got to score points in that conference to win, Baylor, Oklahoma, Okie St, and TTech can light up the score board fast. I have no doubts about his coaching ability whatsoever, I know some good coaching when I see it
 
I would love to see what Mark Stoops does this year with Kentucky. If he can get them playing better and competing in most of their games I would be onboard with that kind of hire.

As we've found out the hard way with Greaseball, taking a really ****** program and making them decent is a lot easier than taking a good program and making it great again.

There have been a few coaches recently who have taken Kentucky to 8 win seasons. If Poops can exceed what Rich Brooks, Hal Mumme and Guy Morris did at Kentucky, then he'll prove himself as a top guy to keep an eye on. Right now, all he's done is recruit.

And yet you want Pruitt.

Pruitt is a very special defensive football coach. Poops isn't. But there are others I'd hire before Pruitt, so go ahead and shove your snarky "yet you want Pruitt" up your tail.

I get that you're hard for Poops, but I'd like to see more out of him before I handed him the program. If his name was Mark Davis you guys wouldn't even care about him. Not all Poops brothers succeed as HCs, as Mike was a major fail at Arizona.
 
I would love to see what Mark Stoops does this year with Kentucky. If he can get them playing better and competing in most of their games I would be onboard with that kind of hire.

As we've found out the hard way with Greaseball, taking a really ****** program and making them decent is a lot easier than taking a good program and making it great again.

There have been a few coaches recently who have taken Kentucky to 8 win seasons. If Poops can exceed what Rich Brooks, Hal Mumme and Guy Morris did at Kentucky, then he'll prove himself as a top guy to keep an eye on. Right now, all he's done is recruit.

And yet you want Pruitt.

Pruitt is a very special defensive football coach. Poops isn't. But there are others I'd hire before Pruitt, so go ahead and shove your snarky "yet you want Pruitt" up your tail.

I get that you're hard for Poops, but I'd like to see more out of him before I handed him the program. If his name was Mark Davis you guys wouldn't even care about him. Not all Poops brothers succeed as HCs, as Mike was a major fail at Arizona.

When in doubt, make up a dumb nickname.

What suggests Pruitt is a special defensive coach? Bc he was DBs coach for Bama? His sick HS defenses? He's been a DC for 1 season on a loaded team. And that D gave up more yards, yards per play (which is prob the best indicator) then the year prior. It was still a lights out D but there was a ton to work with, it was a Coker situation: just don't F it up.

I don't have a problem with Pruitt but your logic makes 0 sense. 1 year DC is ready. Guy with nearly 10 years as a DC and a year as a HC isn't. Guy who built the D from 108th in the nation and was better the year prior, not special. Guy who took over for 1 year, special.
 
A name to keep an eye on is UAB HC Bill Clark. First year at UAB and he is giving teams fits. He absolutely has their fan base giddy. This guy is definitely headed to great things. Coached at Prattville High School (106-11) in Prattville, AL before taking the DC job at U. South Alabama. Had a cup of coffee at Jacksonville State (led them to the playoffs, his only year there) before coming to UAB. Beat Troy 48-10 with garbage players and gave Miss State a scare before losing 47-34.
 
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A name to keep an eye on is UAB HC Bill Clark. First year at UAB and he is giving teams fits. He absolutely has their fan base giddy. This guy is definitely headed to great things. Coached at Prattville High School (106-11) in Prattville, AL before taking the DC job at U. South Alabama. Had a cup of coffee at Jacksonville State (led them to the playoffs, his only year there) before coming to UAB. Beat Troy 48-10 with garbage players and gave Miss State a scare before losing 47-34.

UAB was pretty bad last year and for awhile. It may be difficult for him to get that place out of the gutter so quickly.
 
I would love to see what Mark Stoops does this year with Kentucky. If he can get them playing better and competing in most of their games I would be onboard with that kind of hire.

As we've found out the hard way with Greaseball, taking a really ****** program and making them decent is a lot easier than taking a good program and making it great again.

There have been a few coaches recently who have taken Kentucky to 8 win seasons. If Poops can exceed what Rich Brooks, Hal Mumme and Guy Morris did at Kentucky, then he'll prove himself as a top guy to keep an eye on. Right now, all he's done is recruit.

And yet you want Pruitt.

Pruitt is a very special defensive football coach. Poops isn't. But there are others I'd hire before Pruitt, so go ahead and shove your snarky "yet you want Pruitt" up your tail.

I get that you're hard for Poops, but I'd like to see more out of him before I handed him the program. If his name was Mark Davis you guys wouldn't even care about him. Not all Poops brothers succeed as HCs, as Mike was a major fail at Arizona.

When in doubt, make up a dumb nickname.

What suggests Pruitt is a special defensive coach? Bc he was DBs coach for Bama? His sick HS defenses? He's been a DC for 1 season on a loaded team. And that D gave up more yards, yards per play (which is prob the best indicator) then the year prior. It was still a lights out D but there was a ton to work with, it was a Coker situation: just don't F it up.

I don't have a problem with Pruitt but your logic makes 0 sense. 1 year DC is ready. Guy with nearly 10 years as a DC and a year as a HC isn't. Guy who built the D from 108th in the nation and was better the year prior, not special. Guy who took over for 1 year, special.

You're not a forward thinker. That's ok. What suggested Malzahn would be a great HC when I was pushing for us to hire him? HS coach. Success at lowly Tulsa as an OC. Pass. Give me the guy whose one brother is a successful HC.
 
A name to keep an eye on is UAB HC Bill Clark. First year at UAB and he is giving teams fits. He absolutely has their fan base giddy. This guy is definitely headed to great things. Coached at Prattville High School (106-11) in Prattville, AL before taking the DC job at U. South Alabama. Had a cup of coffee at Jacksonville State (led them to the playoffs, his only year there) before coming to UAB. Beat Troy 48-10 with garbage players and gave Miss State a scare before losing 47-34.

No way. Can't hire a guy who killed it in HS. Forget Malzahn, Briles, and Pruitt. I'm still hung up on Gerry Faust.
 
A name to keep an eye on is UAB HC Bill Clark. First year at UAB and he is giving teams fits. He absolutely has their fan base giddy. This guy is definitely headed to great things. Coached at Prattville High School (106-11) in Prattville, AL before taking the DC job at U. South Alabama. Had a cup of coffee at Jacksonville State (led them to the playoffs, his only year there) before coming to UAB. Beat Troy 48-10 with garbage players and gave Miss State a scare before losing 47-34.

No way. Can't hire a guy who killed it in HS. Forget Malzahn, Briles, and Pruitt. I'm still hung up on Gerry Faust.

Coaches have to come from somewhere. They're all not born ready to be a College HC. It's logical that they come from HS as a starting point. Look at some of the assistants we recently hired (Ice and Hurlie).

Then there are those guys (above) that have been doing nothing but getting results.
 
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