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UM (Michigan) in big trouble ?

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QuattroCane said:
I’m gonna shake my head with contempt when all this blows over, and nothing happens, because “we were unable to really prove anything.”
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This will not blow over. You are not seeing the legal angle.
The NC2A informed the country, and more specifically Michigan opponents that the football team was stealing signs. If true then it is an NC2A violation. If untrue or not provable, Michigan will sue the NC2A for millions and millions of dollars for defamation and damage to the university’s reputation. The NC2A knew this before making the information public. Therefore, a decision has already been made that Michigan was violating rules. The only remaining question is the punishment.

Simply put, the NC2A’s lawyers would never have allowed the allegations to be public without rock solid evidecne because of the lawsuit that would ensue if the allegations turn out to be nothing more. You can’t call someone a cheater and then say sorry Nothing to see. That person or entity will win so much money in the lawsuit that it would make your head spIn.
 
AtlAtty said:
This will not blow over. You are not seeing the legal angle.
The NC2A informed the country, and more specifically Michigan opponents that the football team was stealing signs. If true then it is an NC2A violation. If untrue or not provable, Michigan will sue the NC2A for millions and millions of dollars for defamation and damage to the university’s reputation. The NC2A knew this before making the information public. Therefore, a decision has already been made that Michigan was violating rules. The only remaining question is the punishment.

Simply put, the NC2A’s lawyers would never have allowed the allegations to be public without rock solid evidecne because of the lawsuit that would ensue if the allegations turn out to be nothing more. You can’t call someone a cheater and then say sorry Nothing to see. That person or entity will win so much money in the lawsuit that it would make your head spIn.
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I hear ya but the ncaa lawyers have about a good a track record as Jenna ellis
 
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AtlAtty said:
This will not blow over. You are not seeing the legal angle.
The NC2A informed the country, and more specifically Michigan opponents that the football team was stealing signs. If true then it is an NC2A violation. If untrue or not provable, Michigan will sue the NC2A for millions and millions of dollars for defamation and damage to the university’s reputation. The NC2A knew this before making the information public. Therefore, a decision has already been made that Michigan was violating rules. The only remaining question is the punishment.

Simply put, the NC2A’s lawyers would never have allowed the allegations to be public without rock solid evidecne because of the lawsuit that would ensue if the allegations turn out to be nothing more. You can’t call someone a cheater and then say sorry Nothing to see. That person or entity will win so much money in the lawsuit that it would make your head spIn.
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Do you know if the NCAA has the legal authority to remove any coach, regardless of capacity or rank? I’d imagine they can’t since they technically aren’t employing the coach, but my legal knowledge is below novice level.
 
Michigan shouldnt be worried about NCAA regarding this season. Long term they will come after them. They will try and offer immunity to get people to sing and throw harbaugh under the bus. This season they need to worry about the bigley 10, who I think will protect them short term so they can have a better shot at a championship. And the playoff committee. Have to imagine they have some kind of out clause to keep a team out if things are real bad.
 
Ispyin said:
I hear ya but the ncaa lawyers have about a good a track record as Jenna ellis
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NC2A lawyers are terrible but I trust that they did not just open the institution to a mulit million dollar lawsuit. But I agree with you. Let’s hope they are using different lawyers than those appealed the Alston case to the US Supreme Court and losing 9-0,
 
aelmiami said:
Do you know if the NCAA has the legal authority to remove any coach, regardless of capacity or rank? I’d imagine they can’t since they technically aren’t employing the coach, but my legal knowledge is below novice level.
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The NC2A can not remove a coach, BUT it can find a coach guilty of infractions and issue a Show Cause Order for a period of years. Assume it is for 3 years. That means that if a school wants to hire person X as a coach during the Show Cause period, the school would have to receive permission from the NC2A. As you can imagine, the school is very unlikely to receive that permission. So whereas the NC2A can’t terminate a coach or prevent the school from hiring person X, it can effectively prevent person X from coaching during the Show Cause period.
 
AtlAtty said:
NC2A lawyers are terrible but I trust that they did not just open the institution to a mulit million dollar lawsuit. But I agree with you. Let’s hope they are using different lawyers than those appealed the Alston case to the US Supreme Court and losing 9-0,
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And different attorneys from the ones who thought they could just "borrow" a deposition from someone else's trial...
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
And different attorneys from the ones that thought they could just "borrow" a deposition from someone else's trial...
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That was a royal cluster that I had forgotten until just now. Didn’t they actually give the attorney questions to ask because they could not ask the questions themselves? And even paid some legal fees for this same reason? The NC2A should consider scrap[ping in house counsel and just hire outside firms for everything.
 
AtlAtty said:
That was a royal cluster that I had forgotten until just now. Didn’t they actually give the attorney questions to ask because they could not ask the questions themselves? And even paid some legal fees for this same reason? The NC2A should consider scrap[ping in house counsel and just hire outside firms for everything.
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Not sure about "suggested" questions, but they definitely paid her for what they received.
 
AtlAtty said:
The NC2A can not remove a coach, BUT it can find a coach guilty of infractions and issue a Show Cause Order for a period of years. Assume it is for 3 years. That means that if a school wants to hire person X as a coach during the Show Cause period, the school would have to receive permission from the NC2A. As you can imagine, the school is very unlikely to receive that permission. So whereas the NC2A can’t terminate a coach or prevent the school from hiring person X, it can effectively prevent person X from coaching during the Show Cause period.
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Kinda what I figured. Seems like Harbaugh’s career as a CFB is probably nearing its end at this point. Pruitt got slapped with a six year, I’d imagine we’d be looking at that as Harbaugh’s floor.
 
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