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NC_Canes_11 said:
You think vegas just makes up lines that they think people will bet on? No. They have billion dollar computers and algorithms that project games, totals etc. They make lines accordingly and move them based on what bettors do. This isn’t 1970 anymore.
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Um, I have said that many times. I know exactly how lines are set. And they spend about two seconds setting that line. Not sure why you think that I think otherwise.

The point is that oddsmakers don't sit around evaluating games like people claim around here. A line comes out and it's "Vegas must think.....". Vegas doesn't think anything. They put up the number that the computer spits out.

Nothing NE Canes said was wrong.
 
WanderFranco said:
Um, I have said that many times. I know exactly how lines are set. And they spend about two seconds setting that line. Not sure why you think that I think otherwise.

The point is that oddsmakers don't sit around evaluating games like people claim around here. A line comes out and it's "Vegas must think.....". Vegas doesn't think anything. They put up the number that the computer spits out.

Nothing NE Canes said was wrong.
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“Lines are set to get people to bet” is wrong.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
“Lines are set to get people to bet” is wrong.
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Do tell.

Sportsbooks are businesses. Their goal is to bring in revenue. Lines are set to be intriguing to either side. That gets people to wager money. The only goal is to get people to bet, so lines are set to accomplish that. Not sure how that could possibly be considered "wrong".
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
“Lines are set to get people to bet” is wrong.
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No it’s not lol. You think they make lines to lose money? The average bettor is a sucker.

They make lines that will attract bettors, then adjust in order to entice action on the other side. They want 50/50, no exposure, take home a bag on the vig. Rinse repeat.
 
Cribby said:
Agree. It’s a actually a good matchup for us, one of the better ones. Suspect secondary versus our pass heavy offense. They run the ball and we stop it but then again nothing makes sense this year.
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Yeah UNC had time and WR open most the game but maye was missing them.
TVD has to be willing to pull the ball and run for 5-10 yards when it’s there cause maye was able to run a decent amount when the pocket broke down. Yardage should be there just got to score in the redzone and not turn the ball over
 
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WanderFranco said:
Do tell.

Sportsbooks are businesses. Their goal is to bring in revenue. Lines are set to be intriguing to either side. That gets people to wager money. The only goal is to get people to bet, so lines are set to accomplish that. Not sure how that could possibly be considered "wrong".
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In a perfect world they set perfect opening lines and never have to move it bc it’s 50/50 both sides. They’re guaranteed to win on every game. They do not like having huge liabilities. The lines will be set whether people bet or not.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
In a perfect world they set perfect opening lines and never have to move it bc it’s 50/50 both sides. They’re guaranteed to win on every game. They do not like having huge liabilities. The lines will be set whether people bet or not.
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But the point of setting lines is........to get people to bet. They aren't posting lines for entertainment purposes.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
No it’s not lol. You think they make lines to lose money? The average bettor is a sucker.

They make lines that will attract bettors, then adjust in order to entice action on the other side. They want 50/50, no exposure, take home a bag on the vig. Rinse repeat.
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Wrong. It’s all projections made by computers. Setting a perfect line for both sides is not enticing to the masses. People bet when they believe they found an edge or for entertainment purposes. Trap lines to get people to bet, are few and far between.
 
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WanderFranco said:
But the point of setting lines is........to get people to bet. They aren't posting lines for entertainment purposes.
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So we’ve gone from vegas coming up with lines that make people wanna bet, meaning they aren’t off of pure projections, to they make lines bc it’s their business lmao. I mean yea
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
So we’ve gone from vegas coming up with lines that make people wanna bet, meaning they aren’t off of pure projections, to they make lines bc it’s their business lmao. I mean yea
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But they are off pure projections. Projections made by their power rankings. The power rankings are so good that the line is pretty close to right where it needs to be. And all of this is done because they win when people bet, so they do it to get people to bet. Still not sure where the confusion is.
 
WanderFranco said:
But they are off pure projections. Projections made by their power rankings. The power rankings are so good that the line is pretty close to right where it needs to be. And all of this is done because they win when people bet, so they do it to get people to bet. Still not sure where the confusion is.
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It’s about not having a huge liability on one side. That’s it. Not marketability of the number.
 
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