UCLA going all in for Chip Kelly

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I don't see it happening. Second rate football program

Easier to get talent to UCLA than to Florida. It’s enough players in LA to split with USC. I’d take UCLA if I was him.

That’s news to me. UCLA isn’t a football school and never has been. Florida is the better job, easily. I do think UCLA would be a better fit for Kelly, but to say it’s easier to get talent at UCLA than UF is crazy.

Pretty ridiculous argument that UCLA is easier to get talent to when they aren't even the #1 school in their own town...

It's a big town. Plenty of talent to go around.

Exactly. Lack of knowledge. That's like saying Miami in down years didnt have the ability to get studs. There are way more 3,4 and more stars in the southern cal and cal in general area to go around to both USC and UCLA. UCLA has always been considered to be a sleeping giant. They are finally sick of it, invested a ton on recently opened football facility and stepping up to do the Mora buyout.
 
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UF is undoubtedly a better job but it's probably not as good a fit for Chip. He's a west coast guy and would be the best coach in the PAC 12 the second he signed with UCLA, whereas at UF he'd have to compete with the big boys year in and year out. At UCLA he can win 8-11 games and be there forever.

A better job based on what? If Kelly wants to win, UCLA would be better than the sec gauntlet.

UCLA has no history of winning, a far worse recruiting base and isn't committed to winning big. It's an above average job but its not elite. On the other hand, UF has a great history, is committed to winning and is situated in an elite recruiting base. The drawbacks are unrealistic expectations, fierce recruiting and the SEC. It's a top 10 job, whereas UCLA might be a top 40 job.

Yeah, the whole state of California is void of talent. /ends sarcasm

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Easier to get talent to UCLA than to Florida. It’s enough players in LA to split with USC. I’d take UCLA if I was him.

That’s news to me. UCLA isn’t a football school and never has been. Florida is the better job, easily. I do think UCLA would be a better fit for Kelly, but to say it’s easier to get talent at UCLA than UF is crazy.

Pretty ridiculous argument that UCLA is easier to get talent to when they aren't even the #1 school in their own town...

It's a big town. Plenty of talent to go around.

Exactly. Lack of knowledge. That's like saying Miami in down years didnt have the ability to get studs. There are way more 3,4 and more stars in the southern cal and cal in general area to go around to both USC and UCLA. UCLA has always been considered to be a sleeping giant. They are finally sick of it, invested a ton on recently opened football facility and stepping up to do the Mora buyout.

Miami has had a pedigree in football for a long time. Now that is not to say that UCLA doesn't have access to great talent, all Im saying is that the statement that its easier to get talent at UCLA than UF is ridiculous. Now the statement doesnt say USC, its UCLA, a school that just never has been viewed as football school. UF recruits itself, even when being led by the likes of sharkfvcker he managed to stumble into top 10 classes. From a football standpoint UCLA is not a premier program and never has.
 
That’s news to me. UCLA isn’t a football school and never has been. Florida is the better job, easily. I do think UCLA would be a better fit for Kelly, but to say it’s easier to get talent at UCLA than UF is crazy.

Pretty ridiculous argument that UCLA is easier to get talent to when they aren't even the #1 school in their own town...

It's a big town. Plenty of talent to go around.

Exactly. Lack of knowledge. That's like saying Miami in down years didnt have the ability to get studs. There are way more 3,4 and more stars in the southern cal and cal in general area to go around to both USC and UCLA. UCLA has always been considered to be a sleeping giant. They are finally sick of it, invested a ton on recently opened football facility and stepping up to do the Mora buyout.

Miami has had a pedigree in football for a long time. Now that is not to say that UCLA doesn't have access to great talent, all Im saying is that the statement that its easier to get talent at UCLA than UF is ridiculous. Now the statement doesnt say USC, its UCLA, a school that just never has been viewed as football school. UF recruits itself, even when being led by the likes of sharkfvcker he managed to stumble into top 10 classes. From a football standpoint UCLA is not a premier program and never has.

Maybe not, but I bet he can get UCLA to be even stronger than his Oregon team was, and he nearly won a 'Ship with them..
 
UF is undoubtedly a better job but it's probably not as good a fit for Chip. He's a west coast guy and would be the best coach in the PAC 12 the second he signed with UCLA, whereas at UF he'd have to compete with the big boys year in and year out. At UCLA he can win 8-11 games and be there forever.

Kelly goes to sleep at night dreaming about being Chris Petersen...he’ll be the second best coach in the PAC-12
 
Pretty ridiculous argument that UCLA is easier to get talent to when they aren't even the #1 school in their own town...

It's a big town. Plenty of talent to go around.

Exactly. Lack of knowledge. That's like saying Miami in down years didnt have the ability to get studs. There are way more 3,4 and more stars in the southern cal and cal in general area to go around to both USC and UCLA. UCLA has always been considered to be a sleeping giant. They are finally sick of it, invested a ton on recently opened football facility and stepping up to do the Mora buyout.

Miami has had a pedigree in football for a long time. Now that is not to say that UCLA doesn't have access to great talent, all Im saying is that the statement that its easier to get talent at UCLA than UF is ridiculous. Now the statement doesnt say USC, its UCLA, a school that just never has been viewed as football school. UF recruits itself, even when being led by the likes of sharkfvcker he managed to stumble into top 10 classes. From a football standpoint UCLA is not a premier program and never has.

Maybe not, but I bet he can get UCLA to be even stronger than his Oregon team was, and he nearly won a 'Ship with them..

Thats all possible, Im not gonna say he can't do it. There is no doubt UCLA is located in mega rich recruiting grounds, but it isn't as simple as that. There are politics involved down there and SC is king. Its also why UCLA is a basketball school and SC has never been dominant there either. In terms of Oregon, Phil Knight gave that dude a blank slate to do what he wanted, still not sure if UCLA makes that same commitment or even if they can. I expect Chip Kelly to be successful anywhere he goes though.
 
Nebraska has fat cash, UCLA has fat recruiting ground. Florida has cash and recruiting BUT has unreasonable expectations. I'm still in awe at firing a coach after winning his division in his only 2 complete seasons and getting conference coach of the year!
 
UF is undoubtedly a better job but it's probably not as good a fit for Chip. He's a west coast guy and would be the best coach in the PAC 12 the second he signed with UCLA, whereas at UF he'd have to compete with the big boys year in and year out. At UCLA he can win 8-11 games and be there forever.

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Miami has had a pedigree in football for a long time. Now that is not to say that UCLA doesn't have access to great talent, all Im saying is that the statement that its easier to get talent at UCLA than UF is ridiculous. Now the statement doesnt say USC, its UCLA, a school that just never has been viewed as football school. UF recruits itself, even when being led by the likes of sharkfvcker he managed to stumble into top 10 classes. From a football standpoint UCLA is not a premier program and never has.

Composite recruiting rankings last 4 years

. . . UCLA/UF

2014 18, 9
2015 12, 21
2016 13, 12
2017 20, 11

And that's with Mora. Kelly is as high profile a name as they're going to get. Combine that with him winning more = high profile program that can more easily draw recruits.
And recruiting is as much about who you have to compete with as it is availability. At UCLA, within a huge radius, his only significant recruiting competitor is Clay Helton. In Gainesville it's Mark Richt, Jimbo Fisher, Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, Gus Malzahn....
 
UCLA has high academic standards. Coaches have trouble getting kids in there. Not so much at UF.
 
UCLA with a $4.5 billion endowment is one of the best run schools in the country. This is not an SEC school. You will not hear anything until they wish to divulge it to the general public. Am not sure who they are hiring, but they have more experience with the press than any other school in the country. They will completely control the process.
 
It's a big town. Plenty of talent to go around.

Exactly. Lack of knowledge. That's like saying Miami in down years didnt have the ability to get studs. There are way more 3,4 and more stars in the southern cal and cal in general area to go around to both USC and UCLA. UCLA has always been considered to be a sleeping giant. They are finally sick of it, invested a ton on recently opened football facility and stepping up to do the Mora buyout.

Miami has had a pedigree in football for a long time. Now that is not to say that UCLA doesn't have access to great talent, all Im saying is that the statement that its easier to get talent at UCLA than UF is ridiculous. Now the statement doesnt say USC, its UCLA, a school that just never has been viewed as football school. UF recruits itself, even when being led by the likes of sharkfvcker he managed to stumble into top 10 classes. From a football standpoint UCLA is not a premier program and never has.

Maybe not, but I bet he can get UCLA to be even stronger than his Oregon team was, and he nearly won a 'Ship with them..

Thats all possible, Im not gonna say he can't do it. There is no doubt UCLA is located in mega rich recruiting grounds, but it isn't as simple as that. There are politics involved down there and SC is king. Its also why UCLA is a basketball school and SC has never been dominant there either. In terms of Oregon, Phil Knight gave that dude a blank slate to do what he wanted, still not sure if UCLA makes that same commitment or even if they can. I expect Chip Kelly to be successful anywhere he goes though.

Politics huh?
 
One name I'm surprised I haven't heard for the bigger openings, is Mike Gundy.

He's basically the Mark Richt of the B12...probably tired of playing second fiddle to OU in that State...and He's "50 YEARS OLD!"

Gundy LOVES the Indian Country state and what not. So, he's not going anywhere anytime soon! dUh.
 
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Nebraska has fat cash, UCLA has fat recruiting ground. Florida has cash and recruiting BUT has unreasonable expectations. I'm still in awe at firing a coach after winning his division in his only 2 complete seasons and getting conference coach of the year!

A lot of good that ' cash ' did that Go BIGot REDneck program. hUh. Simply because the Herbie CornSUCKERS have FLOPPED on their last ' three hires ' and what not!:puzzled:
 
UCLA with a $4.5 billion endowment is one of the best run schools in the country. This is not an SEC school. You will not hear anything until they wish to divulge it to the general public. Am not sure who they are hiring, but they have more experience with the press than any other school in the country. They will completely control the process.

I think this is true. Not a peep has come out of Westwood today
 
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