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We have to realize this UAP control is so much larger the government and POTUS .

Neither can access the truth , it will never happen only wasted tidbits to be supplied hard core stuff inaccessible.
 
GOCANES05 said:
We have to realize this UAP control is so much larger the government and POTUS .

Neither can access the truth , it will never happen only wasted tidbits to be supplied hard core stuff inaccessible.
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I guess we'll see what's released, or dribbled out. I don't expect to see the really good stuff.

This subject - like so many others - is overkill classification that should never have been classified. Maybe classifications of a few segments could be justified - as in power plants, maybe the discovery of some specific species that are shocking - documented with actual videos and photographs accompanying identifications, but the ascholes in DC hoard information seeking control and power over the rest of us.

I mean, there are the documented writings way back to Romans reporting a Sacred Shield called the Ancelia which was said had fallen from the sky during King Numa's reign. Roman Priests kept several copies/representations of it, protecting the original.

Roman writers, like Livy, documented these events. In 217 B.C. , round shields were reported as seen flying in the sky above Arpi.

Later in 154 B.C. flying craft were seen flying above Compsa. Other descriptive reports of sparkling flying shields across the sunset sky. The reports were very concise in their descriptions of these craft - not just bright lights or odd clouds.

These were specifically described as defensive military gear - like a round shield.

Other writers, such as Pliny, Seneca, Julius Obesquens, Joannes Lydus - just a few of Roman writers described many such events.

It's not like folks through the millennia haven't been seeing these things.
 
UMFarArcher said:
I guess we'll see what's released, or dribbled out. I don't expect to see the really good stuff.

This subject - like so many others - is overkill classification that should never have been classified. Maybe classifications of a few segments could be justified - as in power plants, maybe the discovery of some specific species that are shocking - documented with actual videos and photographs accompanying identifications, but the ascholes in DC hoard information seeking control and power over the rest of us.

I mean, there are the documented writings way back to Romans reporting a Sacred Shield called the Ancelia which was said had fallen from the sky during King Numa's reign. Roman Priests kept several copies/representations of it, protecting the original.

Roman writers, like Livy, documented these events. In 217 B.C. , round shields were reported as seen flying in the sky above Arpi.

Later in 154 B.C. flying craft were seen flying above Compsa. Other descriptive reports of sparkling flying shields across the sunset sky. The reports were very concise in their descriptions of these craft - not just bright lights or odd clouds.

These were specifically described as defensive military gear - like a round shield.

Other writers, such as Pliny, Seneca, Julius Obesquens, Joannes Lydus - just a few of Roman writers described many such events.

It's not like folks through the millennia haven't been seeing these things.
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I could be wrong but isn’t it civilian companies like Lockheed Martin that have been the ones with all of the super secret **** and have been reverse engineering USP’s since the 40’s? I know there’s a few AFB’s like Wright Patterson in Ohio that are known to supposedly have some of that stuff. I think it’s probably a collective thing but feel that civilian contractors are holding most of this stuff. I love watching documentaries on this kind of shizz and anyone that does as well and has Prime put on “Battle for Disclosure”. I watched that one the other day and was speechless.
 
Timmy T-Bags $$$ said:
I could be wrong but isn’t it civilian companies like Lockheed Martin that have been the ones with all of the super secret **** and have been reverse engineering USP’s since the 40’s? I know there’s a few AFB’s like Wright Patterson in Ohio that are known to supposedly have some of that stuff. I think it’s probably a collective thing but feel that civilian contractors are holding most of this stuff. I love watching documentaries on this kind of shizz and anyone that does as well and has Prime put on “Battle for Disclosure”. I watched that one the other day and was speechless.
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It is alleged that government retrieval of any crashed UAPs, etc. are farmed out to private aerospace and defense contractors to research to avoid oversight and FOIA requests from Congress.
 
Salt said:
It is alleged that government retrieval of any crashed UAPs, etc. are farmed out to private aerospace and defense contractors to research to avoid oversight and FOIA requests from Congress.
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Alleged as in not true?
 
Timmy T-Bags $$$ said:
I could be wrong but isn’t it civilian companies like Lockheed Martin that have been the ones with all of the super secret **** and have been reverse engineering USP’s since the 40’s? I know there’s a few AFB’s like Wright Patterson in Ohio that are known to supposedly have some of that stuff. I think it’s probably a collective thing but feel that civilian contractors are holding most of this stuff. I love watching documentaries on this kind of shizz and anyone that does as well and has Prime put on “Battle for Disclosure”. I watched that one the other day and was speechless.
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When we step back for a moment - consider this: The US Military doesn't make diddly siht. Centuries ago, the US had a couple of armories - but that's it - and even those were abandoned.

When a new weapon system is developed - a rifle - a pistol - a helicopter - a grenade launcher - a jet or cargo plane - warship - it's always developed and built by civilian companies. They may work with the military to determine needs, specifications, capabilities, and even funding - but still made by non-government companies.

The Federal Government is not in business. They buy things they need - they don't produce them.

So, I'm in the military and found a flying saucer - complete with little guys that got squashed and busted up in the crash.

What to do with it? It obviously has technology we don't have - so who do we get to disassemble, evaluate, and determine what these systems are capable of and can we duplicate them?

Let's say it runs off a power system very powerful and the fuel is a small amount of Unobtainian - and and that creates a powerful spinning outer ring of pure mercury that is capable of blocking and attracting gravitational effects.

Not only that, but the outside of the craft - via ultra-high voltage ionization enables everyone inside - to disregard classical physics.

You want to keep this power supply/source to yourself. If suddenly there's pretty much free, unlimited energy - then suddenly there are untold trillions of dollars of dollars in energy-specific assets and systems world-wide - and they are suddenly obsolete. Literally millions of jobs - gone. The crash would be catastrophic. All around the world.

No more mass trucking required - nor all those support personnel - millions and millions of folks. Air transportation - obsolete. Auto manufacturing - crippled. Like Route 66 - many roads bypassed. Shipping - no longer needed. More millions of jobs - gone.

The little people inside - recall the Vatican sending a rep to Galileo - to tell him to knock it off. Galileo says there are craters on the moon - and the Vatican rep refutes him. Galileo says, here's my telescope - look for yourself!

His reply? "I dare not look lest I become like you."

The affect on world religions would be very upsetting. We humans would go from a belief that all the heavens rotates around the Earth - Earth being the center of the Universe - to Heliocentric realization within our Solar System, and we're shocked to find that we're just another planet - and now - we're slapped in the face by discovering we're just another species in the Creation.

Oh, doo-doo.

That's the other side of the argument. Both have some merit. But we seem to adapt to new discoveries fairly well, so let's open it up! We can go to Mars - not in three months - but in three hours. Everyone has energy wherever they live.

Could end up being bad, but we have to adapt eventually - so why not now?
 
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UMFarArcher said:
When we step back for a moment - consider this: The US Military doesn't make diddly siht. Centuries ago, the US had a couple of armories - but that's it - and even those were abandoned.

When a new weapon system is developed - a rifle - a pistol - a helicopter - a grenade launcher - a jet or cargo plane - warship - it's always developed and built by civilian companies. They may work with the military to determine needs, specifications, capabilities, and even funding - but still made by non-government companies.

The Federal Government is not in business. They buy things they need - they don't produce them.

So, I'm in the military and found a flying saucer - complete with little guys that got squashed and busted up in the crash.

What to do with it? It obviously has technology we don't have - so who do we get to disassemble, evaluate, and determine what these systems are capable of and can we duplicate them?

Let's say it runs off a power system very powerful and the fuel is a small amount of Unobtainian - and and that creates a powerful spinning outer ring of pure mercury that is capable of blocking and attracting gravitational effects.

Not only that, but the outside of the craft - via ultra-high voltage ionization enables everyone inside - to disregard classical physics.

You want to keep this power supply/source to yourself. If suddenly there's pretty much free, unlimited energy - then suddenly there are untold trillions of dollars of dollars in energy-specific assets and systems world-wide - and they are suddenly obsolete. Literally millions of jobs - gone. The crash would be catastrophic. All around the world.

No more mass trucking required - nor all those support personnel - millions and millions of folks. Air transportation - obsolete. Auto manufacturing - crippled. Like Route 66 - many roads bypassed. Shipping - no longer needed. More millions of jobs - gone.

The little people inside - recall the Vatican sending a rep to Galileo - to tell him to knock it off. Galileo says there are craters on the moon - and the Vatican rep refutes him. Galileo says, here's my telescope - look for yourself!

His reply? "I dare not look lest I become like you."

The affect on world religions would be very upsetting. We humans would go from a belief that all the heavens rotates around the Earth - Earth being the center of the Universe - to Heliocentric realization within our Solar System, and we're shocked to find that we're just another planet - and now - we're slapped in the face by discovering we're just another species in the Creation.

Oh, doo-doo.

That's the other side of the argument. Both have some merit. But we seem to adapt to new discoveries fairly well, so let's open it up! We can go to Mars - not in three months - but in three hours. Everyone has energy wherever they live.

Could end up being bad, but we have to adapt eventually - so why not now?
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I posted a few pages back about this 1951 Act called The Invention Secrecy Act which gives the government authority to suppress disruptive tech like you allude to. Could be behind these missing scientists that I haven’t heard much about lately for some reason :unsure:

It may be more about holding on to secrecy that we have and used this alien tech that can transform the world than the secrecy that other life forms from outside our planet or physical realm may exist.
 
Salt said:
I posted a few pages back about this 1951 Act called The Invention Secrecy Act which gives the government authority to suppress disruptive tech like you allude to. Could be behind these missing scientists that I haven’t heard much about lately for some reason :unsure:

It may be more about holding on to secrecy that we have and used this alien tech that can transform the world than the secrecy that other life forms from outside our planet or physical realm may exist.
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That Invention Secrecy Act - is real! There is a huge, huge warehouse - that is/was filled with all kinds of inventions and technologies - confiscated.

It was much like the warehouse in the final scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark - absolutely huge - and pretty full.

I've had friends get visits from those nebulous "men in black," one had a firearm in his face, and told "Stop what you're doing or you'll be stopped. You're not going to **** this up."

Another time, there was a slick break in at his lab, and two operatives planted some drugs inside. He was of course hauled into jail, but he was also very clever and prepared with brilliantly hidden cameras throughout his lab.

When that was presented in court - he was cleared, of course. The "perps" of course were never identified.

Oddly, another device/technology he developed - ran off of a few batteries that were only connected to a 200-watt solar panel outside. But. It would output several kW - which used another battery bank sufficient to run a house. Impossible. He hired a German forensic engineering team to come to the US to verify everything.

The gist is - this 200-watt solar panel output to his circuitry box, then to a large bank of batteries and inverters - could run a regular house - AC, Heater, Stove, Washer, Dryer, lights, and all power needs of a family home.

They tested and tested for days past the time they allowed for the project - and finally said, "You have ghosts in your batteries." He said you go buy replacement batteries - I'll pay for them - and start over." They did and after more days of testing told him, "We cannot release our test results. We do, and we'll lose our reputations and our business. This is impossible." And they left - and didn't bill him one dime.

I saw a demonstration of what appeared to be a flat black paint. Outside, a pine 2X4 had a section painted fresh, it dried fast in the sun within few minutes, and they broke out a acetylene cutting torch, adjusted to a cutting flame, and stuck it on the painted surface. Nothing happened. Left it in one spot, and nothing.

Then the moment the flame was redirected - the guy put his bare hand on the surface - and didn't get burned. Others among those present did the same thing over and over to see for themselves.

They were looking for investors to bring the product to market - and boom! It disappeared. I mean - fast!

Another time I saw a product that was sorta rubbery - flexible foam combination - and it was acoustically impossible. No other sound deadener could come close. That too, suddenly - disappeared.

Another was a demonstration of an electric motor that produced 13kW of electricity that was brought to a convention of inventors and their inventions - and it simply had to be pushed to start - no outside fuel, heat, gas, or cord.

It was gone overnight - and the inventor and his family were gone. The very next day. Just - gone. Walked away from their home - gone. No one in the neighborhood saw them leave, no contacts, no nothing. Gone. (probably threatened and offered a generous buyout with them to choose wisely)

Yeah, I'd say if you really have something - you better think about what you're doing.
 
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Salt said:
I posted a few pages back about this 1951 Act called The Invention Secrecy Act which gives the government authority to suppress disruptive tech like you allude to. Could be behind these missing scientists that I haven’t heard much about lately for some reason :unsure:

It may be more about holding on to secrecy that we have and used this alien tech that can transform the world than the secrecy that other life forms from outside our planet or physical realm may exist.
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Everyone has their own concepts - but while I'm not a sky-pilot or Bible thumper - one can find even in the Book of Genesis - yes - there are other beings that are not human - and they have some powerful abilities.

Many references. So when I'm asked if I believe in "aliens" or other worldly beings - you bet your asc I do. I had a few real scares in my life for things I never could imagine - nor explain to this day.

So if someone shows Reptilians - OK. Or Insectoids - OK. Or Nordics - OK. Or Greys - OK. Or Giants - OK. Or big hairy guys with big feet - OK.

The Good Book doesn't define them with those terms - but it certainly references multiple non-humans. Many times.
 
UMFarArcher said:
Everyone has their own concepts - but while I'm not a sky-pilot or Bible thumper - one can find even in the Book of Genesis - yes - there are other beings that are not human - and they have some powerful abilities.

Many references. So when I'm asked if I believe in "aliens" or other worldly beings - you bet your asc I do. I had a few real scares in my life for things I never could imagine - nor explain to this day.

So if someone shows Reptilians - OK. Or Insectoids - OK. Or Nordics - OK. Or Greys - OK. Or Giants - OK. Or big hairy guys with big feet - OK.

The Good Book doesn't define them with those terms - but it certainly references multiple non-humans. Many times.
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I have heard there are some in our government that know what these things actually are and want nothing to do with them. From a biblical pov we might be finding ourselves “just as it was in the days of Noah”and Genesis 6 territory before the other Big Shoe drops.
 
Salt said:
I have heard there are some in our government that know what these things actually are and want nothing to do with them. From a biblical pov we might be finding ourselves “just as it was in the days of Noah”and Genesis 6 territory before the other Big Shoe drops.
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I reckon so. It will be - what it will be.

It's their very existence that now doesn't surprise me in the least. Done run into something that's not supposed to exist. That was a bit unsettling.
 
UMFarArcher said:
I reckon so. It will be - what it will be.

It's their very existence that now doesn't surprise me in the least. Done run into something that's not supposed to exist. That was a bit unsettling.
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Appreciate your contributions to this thread.
 
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