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Off-Topic UAPs and other high strangeness

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
I mean we all have opinions, and I’m not saying mine are superior, I’m just basing mine on what I understand of physics, distances, biology, and time.

Based on that, the closest possible habitable planet, Proxima B, would still take thousands of years using known technology.

I’m assuming that light speed, or greater than light speed travel is not possible. No one has really come up with a scientifically plausible explanation of how it could be.

Unless someone can come up with a plausible explanation of how organisms can achieve lightspeed travel, then it’s unlikely that sentient beings will ever be able to meet, without multi-generational vehicles.

I do believe life exists outside of earth, the odds strongly favorite it, especially with the proof now that exoplanets do exist, but if you get a chance, and you’re probably already familiar with it, look up the Fermi paradox.

The distances involved are too great and the obstacles themselves are also too great for it to be plausible based on knowledge currently available.
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That is one of the fundamental problems with US trying to evaluate the prospects of "alien" visits. We just harnessed electricity for practical applications in the 19th century. We are forced to evaluate "potential" based on OUR limited knowledge of science and technology.

Dr. Steven Greer, who initiated the Disclosure Project, and has (and is) representing "whistle blowers" from the government / military / fields of science / individuals who have "stumbled" onto artifacts, has had scientists evaluate and confirm via carbon dating that certain "orbs / craft .. similar to a type of iron) were made over 4000 years ago and include materials and electro magnetic propulsion systems that are so advanced we haven't been able to figure them out. He gets into the discussions of dimensions / time / matter / mind usage. We look at travel and space in a linear manner while there are indications / clues that 'advanced cultures' with technology that is thousands of years or even more advanced than ours, are not restricted by the same limitations (ie speed of light).

I had never heard of Dr. Greer. But he has been involved with UAP matters for close to 40 years and has been called to advise presidents on the matter. His involvement is interesting to say the least and you can check out the following if interested:

dr.stevengreer.com
-The Disclosure Project
-25th Anniversary of the 2001 Disclosure Project National Press Club Event
-Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence
-Beyond Top Secret - The Era of Disclosure

The 25th Anniversary event is especially interesting. He presents whistleblowers giving accounts of their experiences / findings. A key topic is the "fact" that major industrial organizations (Grumman, Rockwell etc) have successfully reverse engineered several types of "UAP" craft and "in fact" have been running covert build programs OF these craft for decades. He states that roughly 80% of UAP sightings have been built and operated by man. He also states that the "zero energy" (energy production without use of any fossil fuels etc) that is basically free ... could transform the planet and eliminate poverty in a short period of time. THAT is a major reason the "deep state" has used immense pressure (including murder and disappearance) to keep the technologies secret. Gets into use of "psychic" phenomena and how advanced civilizations are using the mind at levels that are as advanced as their other technologies. TIFWIW.
 
Rickd said:
That is one of the fundamental problems with US trying to evaluate the prospects of "alien" visits. We just harnessed electricity for practical applications in the 19th century. We are forced to evaluate "potential" based on OUR limited knowledge of science and technology.

Dr. Steven Greer, who initiated the Disclosure Project, and has (and is) representing "whistle blowers" from the government / military / fields of science / individuals who have "stumbled" onto artifacts, has had scientists evaluate and confirm via carbon dating that certain "orbs / craft .. similar to a type of iron) were made over 4000 years ago and include materials and electro magnetic propulsion systems that are so advanced we haven't been able to figure them out. He gets into the discussions of dimensions / time / matter / mind usage. We look at travel and space in a linear manner while there are indications / clues that 'advanced cultures' with technology that is thousands of years or even more advanced than ours, are not restricted by the same limitations (ie speed of light).

I had never heard of Dr. Greer. But he has been involved with UAP matters for close to 40 years and has been called to advise presidents on the matter. His involvement is interesting to say the least and you can check out the following if interested:

dr.stevengreer.com
-The Disclosure Project
-25th Anniversary of the 2001 Disclosure Project National Press Club Event
-Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence
-Beyond Top Secret - The Era of Disclosure

The 25th Anniversary event is especially interesting. He presents whistleblowers giving accounts of their experiences / findings. A key topic is the "fact" that major industrial organizations (Grumman, Rockwell etc) have successfully reverse engineered several types of "UAP" craft and "in fact" have been running covert build programs OF these craft for decades. He states that roughly 80% of UAP sightings have been built and operated by man. He also states that the "zero energy" (energy production without use of any fossil fuels etc) that is basically free ... could transform the planet and eliminate poverty in a short period of time. THAT is a major reason the "deep state" has used immense pressure (including murder and disappearance) to keep the technologies secret. Gets into use of "psychic" phenomena and how advanced civilizations are using the mind at levels that are as advanced as their other technologies. TIFWIW.
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Thanks for your well researched response.

Please don’t take this the wrong way. I’m not attacking you personally, but, Greer is a fraud and a grifter. Look it up.

He runs a for-profit and fraudulent venture, involving retreats where he claims he can use telepathy and meditation to summon UFOs. Thereby scamming people of their money.

Additionally, this claim that he’s briefed presidents is untrue. What he has done is sent packets of information to the White House that remain unopened.

That’s enough for me to know that the guy is full of ****.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Thanks for your well researched response.

Please don’t take this the wrong way. I’m not attacking you personally, but, Greer is a fraud and a grifter. Look it up.

He runs a for-profit and fraudulent venture, involving retreats where he claims he can use telepathy and meditation to summon UFOs. Thereby scamming people of their money.

Additionally, this claim that he’s briefed presidents is untrue. What he has done is sent packets of information to the White House that remain unopened.

That’s enough for me to know that the guy is full of ****.
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He has done a remarkable job of preparing and airing "documentaries". He can be total fraud ... and still be as credible as mainstream media ... that is how bad the confidence in our government and media has become.
 
UMFarArcher said:
Those dammned reptilians are always starting some siht. There used to be - and may be today - a good number in the Superstition Mountains. Hard to kill - but can be killed without any EM spike weapons.

Taste like chicken.
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