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Two simple rules for recruiting QBs

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The college game doesn’t necessarily highlight the skills necessary to make a good pro qb. It’s a game of mismatches and mistakes. The nfl has cleaned that up so much that it’s a game of strategy, quick decisions and accuracy. A qb in college can be avg at some of those and kill it if his team has got elite players causing mismatches and spending all day open. If he is athletic he will get a high ranking. I would have rated McCord above many of the and who went before him. Prob #2 qb in the class. His quick decisions and accuracy were nfl caliber.
 
DMoney said:
The multisport kids play the entire year with the scoreboard on. The speed of competition improves their reactions and overall poise. It’s hard to replicate in non-contact football.
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I saw an interesting article a while ago about T Law, and why he went from a can’t miss prospect to borderline overrated.

The basic gist was QBs go through so much specialized training at such a young age they can tend to peak earlier.

I’d personally go after a baseball player/pocket passer or basketball/more mobile. I don’t think it’s an exact science. So many factors play into it. As a Vikings fan I saw first hand this year what a better environment does for a QB.
 
SCarolina Ibis said:
Pitching. The earlier focus they can avoid issues with mechanics the better.

Tbh though.. when it comes to players who have D1 interest and offers in one sport, I think they should give the other sports up. I'd rather them risk burnout than fatigue and injuries.
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Yeah id be cautious i think Brandon Weeden or Chris Weinke was the last one to play baseball professionally pitching and get drafted in the NFL as a QB i could be wrong.
 
DMoney said:
I've spent way too much time studying why quarterbacks hit or flop. Of course, you need baseline arm talent and size. And work ethic is another non-negotiable. But from what I've found, the separators are often athleticism and instincts.

There are so many kids with private QB coaches who flourish in camp settings, but struggle in real games. Jake Garcia is a recent example. Conversely, there are a lot of instinctive athletes who improve their passing skills with full-time coaching in college. The things you can't get by training-- reactive movement, competitive reps -- are readily available by playing other sports.

My rule of thumb is that a quarterback needs to be: (1) a multisport athlete; or (2) if he's a football-only guy, a legitimate dual-threat with major running ability. There are always exceptions, but in this case I wouldn't make many. Our most recent superstar QB was a multisport zero star (Cam Ward), and the last great quarterback we had (Ken Dorsey) got offered by Butch Davis at a high school basketball game.

The top QBs in the NFL- Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts, Jayden Daniels, CJ Stroud- all fit into this framework.

Am I being too simplistic here?









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You are overthinking it. Just go after QBs whose names are

1. firearms related (i.e. Hunter, Gunnar, Colt, Bo, Smoker, Cannon, etc)
2. geographic features (Montana, Rivers, Marino)
3. animal related (Colt, Hunter - both make list twice which means absolutely must get, Forrest, Bear, Wolf, etc)

Don’t need to worry about voodoo analytics. 60% of the time it will work every time.
 
Haven’t read the entire thread but what does Coleman play? Was nickel two sport? How does 7v7 factor in?
 
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DMoney said:
I've spent way too much time studying why quarterbacks hit or flop. Of course, you need baseline arm talent and size. And work ethic is another non-negotiable. But from what I've found, the separators are often athleticism and instincts.

There are so many kids with private QB coaches who flourish in camp settings, but struggle in real games. Jake Garcia is a recent example. Conversely, there are a lot of instinctive athletes who improve their passing skills with full-time coaching in college. The things you can't get by training-- reactive movement, competitive reps -- are readily available by playing other sports.

My rule of thumb is that a quarterback needs to be: (1) a multisport athlete; or (2) if he's a football-only guy, a legitimate dual-threat with major running ability. There are always exceptions, but in this case I wouldn't make many. Our most recent superstar QB was a multisport zero star (Cam Ward), and the last great quarterback we had (Ken Dorsey) got offered by Butch Davis at a high school basketball game.

The top QBs in the NFL- Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts, Jayden Daniels, CJ Stroud- all fit into this framework.

Am I being too simplistic here?









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So Beck and Judd are our only guys that check those boxes. Nickel, Emory and Coleman all are QB only guys
 
COCane4Life said:
So Beck and Judd are our only guys that check those boxes. Nickel, Emory and Coleman all are QB only guys
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Looks like Nickel played baseball until HS. The area he’s from a major youth baseball hot bed. Wouldn’t shock me if the advice given was to focus on football. Milton’s baseball team has been bad compared to their tradition of success.
 
DMoney said:
Correct. One thing with Judd is that while he played basketball, he was a big man. So he didn’t make as many decisions as guards like Ward and Burrow.
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I think it’s easy to understand the current QB recruiting strategy but we need to either hit on a hs guy or land a multi year transfer next year hopefully with these traits
 
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DMoney said:
Am I being too simplistic here?
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aelmiami said:
I saw an interesting article a while ago about T Law, and why he went from a can’t miss prospect to borderline overrated.

The basic gist was QBs go through so much specialized training at such a young age they can tend to peak earlier.

I’d personally go after a baseball player/pocket passer or basketball/more mobile. I don’t think it’s an exact science. So many factors play into it. As a Vikings fan I saw first hand this year what a better environment does for a QB.
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Yeah we saw a little bit of this with Garcia. IIRC he had some great QB coaching through childhood which translates well to HS and especially tournament settings but once the big lights come on and competition ramps and you realize they peaked.
 
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