TRob is a bigger threat than Randy......

[Miami Nights]

it's not a huge deal and he developed less than half of the players you put on that list. SMH it's amazing how someone legend can grow just because of the asshats currently employed at UM

Smh....explain this comment

 

[ssj4cane]

FSU and UF will always have dudes who can recruit South Florida. Randy will do ok but thats mainly because Goldens here not because of any special ability Randy has. I mean Tim ******* Brewster killed it down here last season.

 

[deerob305]

I know you want to find piece with whats going on but man let's be real. UF has a Broyles Award winning LB coach now. Not only was Randy a dominate Defensive Coordinator he coached some of the most prolific athletes in the NCAA.

Randy was responsible for the development of

Sean Taylor
Ed Reed
Antrel Role
B Meriweather
Dj Williams
Calais Campbell
Kenny Phillips
Jon Beason
J Vilma
Bruce Johnson
Buchanon
leon Williams
Rocky McIntosh
V Wilfork
Allen Bailey
Mike Rumph
Kelly Jennings
Sam Shields
Baraka Atkins

That is just a few that he developed and coached. You don't think with UF facilities, SEC and game day atmosphere that players would not want to play for Randy knowing all the players he developed?

You fooling yourself if you don't think this is a huge deal for UF and bad for UM

Your wrong... guess u never saw the Sam Shields story when he signed with Green Bay..... lol... those Coaches killed the staff dor how he wasnt properly developed.... your kidding yourself if u think he developed them.... do you research before u go spewing bullsh*t

Use commons sense. U named one player out of how many successful NFL players that played under Shannon? How can one player get it when the other doesn't? It's the player buddy. Sam Sheilds even said so himself and his father thanksed Shannon for his approach with the kid.

The Detroit Lions luaded randy Phillips for his understanding of the game. He even made the team. Both were coached by Shannon ....just because you can't find a real reason Shannon sucked doe st mean you ahe. To cheer lead or try to appear like u know what you're talking about.

I'll tell u what some of you really expose yourself as a person with some of these comments.

I knw what im talkin about, yall claim he developed all these players... so whats the purpose of a position coach??? Ill wait....

 

[am1640]

it's not a huge deal and he developed less than half of the players you put on that list. SMH it's amazing how someone legend can grow just because of the asshats currently employed at UM

He was the defensive coordinator for all those players so how did he only develop half on that list? Facts are facts.

being DC doesn't mean you're developing player considering they spin the majority of their time with a position coach. Again your wrong. The 4 years Chuck pagano spent with Reed had more to do with his development then one season with Randy calling plays. Same goes for Rumph. Mark Stoops developed Meast and Rolle. Vince???man give me a break you might want to go and learn about who UM's DL coach was back in those days. I'll give you a hint he coached and developed the likes of Kenard land, Kenny Holmes, William Joseph, Mc Dougle, Jamaal Green, and Damien Lewis long before he got a chance to mold big Vince. LMAO at putting Sam Shields on there. When was he developing Shields?? While he was playing offense his his first three seasons or was it his SR year when Randy was the HC and wasn't really doing any individual coaching or developing anymore? If so that's really sad because I'm sure Sam and Joe Witt would really like to have a word with you if you truly believe that.

I can go on and on but I want because it's clear you are just pulling names of guys who played defense for Miami during Randy's tenure and just attributing anything they did to Randy and have no idea what you're really talking about.

 

[deerob305]

it's not a huge deal and he developed less than half of the players you put on that list. SMH it's amazing how someone legend can grow just because of the asshats currently employed at UM

He was the defensive coordinator for all those players so how did he only develop half on that list? Facts are facts.

A Defensive Coordinator doesnt develop talent, position coaches do.... he picks the players fit for his scheme, but its the position coaches job to develop them...

Couldn't be further from the truth. Smh. Just an overall ***ed up post. Don't have any way else do describing it.

So answer this question.... who are you goin to five credit for developing Perryman?? Coach No D?? He's been the defensive coordinator all 4 years Perryman been there.... i give coach Barrow all the credit for DP..... no one else... Coach Hurlie Brown has done a decent job with the other backers this year

 

[Miami Nights]

H

I know you want to find piece with whats going on but man let's be real. UF has a Broyles Award winning LB coach now. Not only was Randy a dominate Defensive Coordinator he coached some of the most prolific athletes in the NCAA.

Randy was responsible for the development of

Sean Taylor
Ed Reed
Antrel Role
B Meriweather
Dj Williams
Calais Campbell
Kenny Phillips
Jon Beason
J Vilma
Bruce Johnson
Buchanon
leon Williams
Rocky McIntosh
V Wilfork
Allen Bailey
Mike Rumph
Kelly Jennings
Sam Shields
Baraka Atkins

That is just a few that he developed and coached. You don't think with UF facilities, SEC and game day atmosphere that players would not want to play for Randy knowing all the players he developed?

You fooling yourself if you don't think this is a huge deal for UF and bad for UM

Your wrong... guess u never saw the Sam Shields story when he signed with Green Bay..... lol... those Coaches killed the staff dor how he wasnt properly developed.... your kidding yourself if u think he developed them.... do you research before u go spewing bullsh*t

Use commons sense. U named one player out of how many successful NFL players that played under Shannon? How can one player get it when the other doesn't? It's the player buddy. Sam Sheilds even said so himself and his father thanksed Shannon for his approach with the kid.

The Detroit Lions luaded randy Phillips for his understanding of the game. He even made the team. Both were coached by Shannon ....just because you can't find a real reason Shannon sucked doe st mean you ahe. To cheer lead or try to appear like u know what you're talking about.

I'll tell u what some of you really expose yourself as a person with some of these comments.

I knw what im talkin about, yall claim he developed all these players... so whats the purpose of a position coach??? Ill wait....

The position coaches teaches the philosophy of the defense to his Indiviual players. The position coach helps develop a player but so does the dc who watches over everything and helps pick the starters.

So no, you don't know what your talking about I can tell.

 

[deerob305]

it's not a huge deal and he developed less than half of the players you put on that list. SMH it's amazing how someone legend can grow just because of the asshats currently employed at UM

He was the defensive coordinator for all those players so how did he only develop half on that list? Facts are facts.

being DC doesn't mean you're developing player considering they spin the majority of their time with a position coach. Again your wrong. The 4 years Chuck pagano spent with Reed had more to do with his development then one season with Randy calling plays. Same goes for Rumph. Mark Stoops developed Meast and Rolle. Vince???man give me a break you might want to go and learn about who UM's DL coach was back in those days. I'll give you a hint he coached and developed the likes of Kenard land, Kenny Holmes, William Joseph, Mc Dougle, Jamaal Green, and Damien Lewis long before he got a chance to mold big Vince. LMAO at putting Sam Shields on there. When was he developing Shields?? While he was playing offense his his first three seasons or was it his SR year when Randy was the HC and wasn't really doing any individual coaching or developing anymore? If so that's really sad because I'm sure Sam and Joe Witt would really like to have a word with you if you truly believe that.

I can go on and on but I want because it's clear you are just pulling names of guys who played defense for Miami during Randy's tenure and just attributing anything they did to Randy and have no idea what you're really talking about.

Thank you.... there is somebody on here that actually knows what they are talking about....

 

[Miami Nights]

it's not a huge deal and he developed less than half of the players you put on that list. SMH it's amazing how someone legend can grow just because of the asshats currently employed at UM

He was the defensive coordinator for all those players so how did he only develop half on that list? Facts are facts.

A Defensive Coordinator doesnt develop talent, position coaches do.... he picks the players fit for his scheme, but its the position coaches job to develop them...

Couldn't be further from the truth. Smh. Just an overall ***ed up post. Don't have any way else do describing it.

So answer this question.... who are you goin to five credit for developing Perryman?? Coach No D?? He's been the defensive coordinator all 4 years Perryman been there.... i give coach Barrow all the credit for DP..... no one else... Coach Hurlie Brown has done a decent job with the other backers this year

With me player development is mostly on the player with help from coaches. As far as " coaching credit " goes ill give it to coach d, barrow his position coach golden etc.

Player development is a mis used term on message boards since most mofos don't even know wtf it is to begin with or what it entails.

 

[deerob305]

H

I know you want to find piece with whats going on but man let's be real. UF has a Broyles Award winning LB coach now. Not only was Randy a dominate Defensive Coordinator he coached some of the most prolific athletes in the NCAA.

Randy was responsible for the development of

Sean Taylor
Ed Reed
Antrel Role
B Meriweather
Dj Williams
Calais Campbell
Kenny Phillips
Jon Beason
J Vilma
Bruce Johnson
Buchanon
leon Williams
Rocky McIntosh
V Wilfork
Allen Bailey
Mike Rumph
Kelly Jennings
Sam Shields
Baraka Atkins

That is just a few that he developed and coached. You don't think with UF facilities, SEC and game day atmosphere that players would not want to play for Randy knowing all the players he developed?

You fooling yourself if you don't think this is a huge deal for UF and bad for UM

Your wrong... guess u never saw the Sam Shields story when he signed with Green Bay..... lol... those Coaches killed the staff dor how he wasnt properly developed.... your kidding yourself if u think he developed them.... do you research before u go spewing bullsh*t

Use commons sense. U named one player out of how many successful NFL players that played under Shannon? How can one player get it when the other doesn't? It's the player buddy. Sam Sheilds even said so himself and his father thanksed Shannon for his approach with the kid.

The Detroit Lions luaded randy Phillips for his understanding of the game. He even made the team. Both were coached by Shannon ....just because you can't find a real reason Shannon sucked doe st mean you ahe. To cheer lead or try to appear like u know what you're talking about.

I'll tell u what some of you really expose yourself as a person with some of these comments.

I knw what im talkin about, yall claim he developed all these players... so whats the purpose of a position coach??? Ill wait....

The position coaches teaches the philosophy of the defense to his Indiviual players. The position coach helps develop a player but so does the dc who watches over everything and helps pick the starters.

So no, you don't know what your talking about I can tell.

Your dumber than a box of rocks..... The DC teaches the philosophy!!!!! Its the position coaches job to develop who he has at his position he is coaching.... helps them with there skills. ... there is a reason Folden and No D always preach about believing in their scheme and philosophy...

 

[Supercane85]

it's not a huge deal and he developed less than half of the players you put on that list. SMH it's amazing how someone legend can grow just because of the asshats currently employed at UM

He was the defensive coordinator for all those players so how did he only develop half on that list? Facts are facts.

being DC doesn't mean you're developing player considering they spin the majority of their time with a position coach. Again your wrong. The 4 years Chuck pagano spent with Reed had more to do with his development then one season with Randy calling plays. Same goes for Rumph. Mark Stoops developed Meast and Rolle. Vince???man give me a break you might want to go and learn about who UM's DL coach was back in those days. I'll give you a hint he coached and developed the likes of Kenard land, Kenny Holmes, William Joseph, Mc Dougle, Jamaal Green, and Damien Lewis long before he got a chance to mold big Vince. LMAO at putting Sam Shields on there. When was he developing Shields?? While he was playing offense his his first three seasons or was it his SR year when Randy was the HC and wasn't really doing any individual coaching or developing anymore? If so that's really sad because I'm sure Sam and Joe Witt would really like to have a word with you if you truly believe that.

I can go on and on but I want because it's clear you are just pulling names of guys who played defense for Miami during Randy's tenure and just attributing anything they did to Randy and have no idea what you're really talking about.

The DC teaches the scheme and X's and O's to his players while also delegating which techniques that his assistance will teach. What do you think the DC does during practice?

You think the DC just sits around doing nothing? During individual drills the DC goes from group to group making sure his techniques and philosophies are being taught correctly.

After individual drills the defense comes together as a unit and the DC is the one teaching.

 

[Miami Nights]

Please

H

Your wrong... guess u never saw the Sam Shields story when he signed with Green Bay..... lol... those Coaches killed the staff dor how he wasnt properly developed.... your kidding yourself if u think he developed them.... do you research before u go spewing bullsh*t

Use commons sense. U named one player out of how many successful NFL players that played under Shannon? How can one player get it when the other doesn't? It's the player buddy. Sam Sheilds even said so himself and his father thanksed Shannon for his approach with the kid.

The Detroit Lions luaded randy Phillips for his understanding of the game. He even made the team. Both were coached by Shannon ....just because you can't find a real reason Shannon sucked doe st mean you ahe. To cheer lead or try to appear like u know what you're talking about.

I'll tell u what some of you really expose yourself as a person with some of these comments.

I knw what im talkin about, yall claim he developed all these players... so whats the purpose of a position coach??? Ill wait....

The position coaches teaches the philosophy of the defense to his Indiviual players. The position coach helps develop a player but so does the dc who watches over everything and helps pick the starters.

So no, you don't know what your talking about I can tell.

Your dumber than a box of rocks..... The DC teaches the philosophy!!!!! Its the position coaches job to develop who he has at his position he is coaching.... helps them with there skills. ... there is a reason Folden and No D always preach about believing in their scheme and philosophy...

Lmao I just said the same thing. You a waste of time. If a dc doesn't w at his guys playing at 3 and 1 why the *** would the position coach teach them that? He don't. He teaches the techniques and philosophies of the defense in his own way. This varies from coach to coach and there is also a lot more to this.

 

[Supercane85]

H

Your wrong... guess u never saw the Sam Shields story when he signed with Green Bay..... lol... those Coaches killed the staff dor how he wasnt properly developed.... your kidding yourself if u think he developed them.... do you research before u go spewing bullsh*t

Use commons sense. U named one player out of how many successful NFL players that played under Shannon? How can one player get it when the other doesn't? It's the player buddy. Sam Sheilds even said so himself and his father thanksed Shannon for his approach with the kid.

The Detroit Lions luaded randy Phillips for his understanding of the game. He even made the team. Both were coached by Shannon ....just because you can't find a real reason Shannon sucked doe st mean you ahe. To cheer lead or try to appear like u know what you're talking about.

I'll tell u what some of you really expose yourself as a person with some of these comments.

I knw what im talkin about, yall claim he developed all these players... so whats the purpose of a position coach??? Ill wait....

The position coaches teaches the philosophy of the defense to his Indiviual players. The position coach helps develop a player but so does the dc who watches over everything and helps pick the starters.

So no, you don't know what your talking about I can tell.

Your dumber than a box of rocks..... The DC teaches the philosophy!!!!! Its the position coaches job to develop who he has at his position he is coaching.... helps them with there skills. ... there is a reason Folden and No D always preach about believing in their scheme and philosophy...

You not making much sense. The position coaches receive their teaching directions from the DC. Meaning technique and Scheme.

 

[Supercane85]

Please

H

Use commons sense. U named one player out of how many successful NFL players that played under Shannon? How can one player get it when the other doesn't? It's the player buddy. Sam Sheilds even said so himself and his father thanksed Shannon for his approach with the kid.

The Detroit Lions luaded randy Phillips for his understanding of the game. He even made the team. Both were coached by Shannon ....just because you can't find a real reason Shannon sucked doe st mean you ahe. To cheer lead or try to appear like u know what you're talking about.

I'll tell u what some of you really expose yourself as a person with some of these comments.

I knw what im talkin about, yall claim he developed all these players... so whats the purpose of a position coach??? Ill wait....

The position coaches teaches the philosophy of the defense to his Indiviual players. The position coach helps develop a player but so does the dc who watches over everything and helps pick the starters.

So no, you don't know what your talking about I can tell.

Your dumber than a box of rocks..... The DC teaches the philosophy!!!!! Its the position coaches job to develop who he has at his position he is coaching.... helps them with there skills. ... there is a reason Folden and No D always preach about believing in their scheme and philosophy...

Lmao I just said the same thing. You a waste of time. If a dc doesn't w at his guys playing at 3 and 1 why the *** would the position coach teach them that? He don't. He teaches the techniques and philosophies of the defense in his own way. This varies from coach to coach and there is also a lot more to this.

Slight correction...You mentioned in his own way. You must teach it exactly how the DC demands. Everything else you mentioned is spot on.

 

[Canezum5]

I dont even know why yall are debating. These guys clearly said for everyone to see... that defensive coordinators DON'T develop talent. lmfao........

Debate over. They have no credible argument after that. Even though i understand what they mean. They have to know that its still stupid as shid to type that.

It was Randys idea to have sam switch over to DB to make a career for himself as was said earlier by the credit he was given from Sam and his father. Kind of how Randy got Jimmy Graham to come play.

randy has a keen eye for talent and he can develop defensive players. maybe some of you guys should research who randy shannon is all the way back to his playing days. Dudes football iq has always been high.

Just because he was a suck hc doesnt mean he didnt have a strong part in developing the players that were listed before.

The 2001 team wasnt built on all 4 and 5 star recruits. A lot of them were guys that Butch just had an eye for. Just like he got all that talent at unc.

Randy learned from that butch camp. Golden has done a lot with Randys players! lmao! guys who were 3 stars and what not.

this is crazy.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

Ive been reading the boards and twitter, and for people to think Randy Shannon is goin to have a bigger impact on SoFla than TRob is crazy...... Randy wasnt well liked at alot of schools unlike Trob who everyone loved... the only decent recruits he got to Arkansas was JoJo Robinson and Denver Kirkland..... h3 did not recruit Alex Collins that was all Partridge..... he wont have a big impact, just a presence in South Florida for that staff....

Sorry I from the Broward and know a few coaches he played a role in Collins. Dont sell the dude short and let's quit with the bs of not being well liked. There were a couple schools upset because he didn't recruit their players but that was exaggerated. Columbus and Central was the few schools that were outspoken only because he didn't want Lowery and Gore. Central was upset because he didn't want any of their players in Godfrey and a few others(should of recruited Freeman)...

Anyway the notion of not being well-liked is exaggerated. Too be honest he may be more welcomed than anyone on this staff.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Zero ***s would be too many.

This. We have far bigger problems than randy and trob.

 

[The Franchise]

Everyone is a threat to a dead Corch and a dead program. When will you guys realize this isn't about a specific ace recruiter.

It doesn't matter who is recruiting for our against UM because those recruiting against us are recruiting against air and those recruiting for us have nothing left to pitch to guys with legit options.

This is all about UM having nothing left to sell to recruits. Can't sell the cloud. Can't sell development. Can't sell hope. Can't sell improvement. Can't sell that he's turning it around. Can't sell job stability.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

I know you want to find piece with whats going on but man let's be real. UF has a Broyles Award winning LB coach now. Not only was Randy a dominate Defensive Coordinator he coached some of the most prolific athletes in the NCAA.

Randy was responsible for the development of

Sean Taylor
Ed Reed
Antrel Role
B Meriweather
Dj Williams
Calais Campbell
Kenny Phillips
Jon Beason
J Vilma
Bruce Johnson
Buchanon
leon Williams
Rocky McIntosh
V Wilfork
Allen Bailey
Mike Rumph
Kelly Jennings
Sam Shields
Baraka Atkins

That is just a few that he developed and coached. You don't think with UF facilities, SEC and game day atmosphere that players would not want to play for Randy knowing all the players he developed?

You fooling yourself if you don't think this is a huge deal for UF and bad for UM

Your wrong... guess u never saw the Sam Shields story when he signed with Green Bay..... lol... those Coaches killed the staff dor how he wasnt properly developed.... your kidding yourself if u think he developed them.... do you research before u go spewing bullsh*t

You do realize Sam Shields lone season at corner was probably better than anything we had for the past 4 years. The kid finally moved to corner his senior after being stubborn for 3 years. What are you talking about? He developed talent unlike what we have witnessed now. It's funny Buchanon and Rumph drafted before Reed but they didn't have as successful careers. Dude developed then to be 1st rounders.

 

[Supercane85]

it's not a huge deal and he developed less than half of the players you put on that list. SMH it's amazing how someone legend can grow just because of the asshats currently employed at UM

He was the defensive coordinator for all those players so how did he only develop half on that list? Facts are facts.

A Defensive Coordinator doesnt develop talent, position coaches do.... he picks the players fit for his scheme, but its the position coaches job to develop them...

Couldn't be further from the truth. Smh. Just an overall ***ed up post. Don't have any way else do describing it.

So answer this question.... who are you goin to five credit for developing Perryman?? Coach No D?? He's been the defensive coordinator all 4 years Perryman been there.... i give coach Barrow all the credit for DP..... no one else... Coach Hurlie Brown has done a decent job with the other backers this year

Yes coach D gets credit for DP.

Barrow gets credit also. The main job of a position coach is to teach. When the DC calls a play in practice, meeting or game he expects the player to know and understand the scheme. This falls on the position coach. As A DC I don't have time to teach every player technique and scheme that is what the position coaches are for.

 

[Miami Nights]

,

Please

H

I knw what im talkin about, yall claim he developed all these players... so whats the purpose of a position coach??? Ill wait....

The position coaches teaches the philosophy of the defense to his Indiviual players. The position coach helps develop a player but so does the dc who watches over everything and helps pick the starters.

So no, you don't know what your talking about I can tell.

Your dumber than a box of rocks..... The DC teaches the philosophy!!!!! Its the position coaches job to develop who he has at his position he is coaching.... helps them with there skills. ... there is a reason Folden and No D always preach about believing in their scheme and philosophy...

Lmao I just said the same thing. You a waste of time. If a dc doesn't w at his guys playing at 3 and 1 why the *** would the position coach teach them that? He don't. He teaches the techniques and philosophies of the defense in his own way. This varies from coach to coach and there is also a lot more to this.

Slight correction...You mentioned in his own way. You must teach it exactly how the DC demands. Everything else you mentioned is spot on.

Not in my experience. As long as you stay in the parameters of what he's trying to do its coo. When I mentioned in his own way he may throw in a suggestion or say he might do something. A certain way given a sitiationa, players etc. I ve never had a coach who didn't do differently or heard differently.