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hurricanefreak

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Maybe it was to take time out of Nebraskas practice because they would have to learn to defend them?? Not sure why he would call so many, especially against Arkansas St.... it's the only reason I can think of.
 
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its the mentality of a coward, if you apply to real life, only have the bawls to call that stuff when u have a cushion or playing an inferior opponent.. im pretty sure I cant recall this guy or this staff so something innovative or tricky in a big game
 
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I thought trick plays were meant to trick the defense...not your own offense. The guys looked like they had not even tried running those plays in practice.
 
Desperate attempt to look more "creative" on offense. Why the **** do you use/need trick plays for Arkansas State?!
 
Coach Macho said:
Desperate attempt to look more "creative" on offense. Why the **** do you use/need trick plays for Arkansas State?!
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That was my question during the game -- "WHY?" It made absolutely no sense. I actually thought it made us look kind of pathetic to run trick plays against a team we should dominate straight up.
 
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Coach Macho said:
Desperate attempt to look more "creative" on offense. Why the **** do you use/need trick plays for Arkansas State?!
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My guess after the game on one of these threads was HOPEFULLY to set something up out of one of those formations. I pray that was the rationale.

Interesting, though. You usually run an effective play out of a personnel grouping and formation and then run the trick play afterward.

We flipped it. Coley says, "he'll flip ya. Flip ya for real."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rntm3yDAQuM
 
While I agree that the timing of them was awful ... it is definitely something coaches try to do before a big game. It gives opposing DC's one more thing they have to prepare for. I actually think it was good to call the trick plays, just the timing and execution was so awful that I'm sure it didn't scare Pellini too much.
 
hurricanefreak said:
Maybe it was to take time out of Nebraskas practice because they would have to learn to defend them?? Not sure why he would call so many, especially against Arkansas St.... it's the only reason I can think of.
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That's exactly why. Makes coaches spend time in film and makes players and coaches spend time at practice learning it, just in case.
Unfortunately, the timing was awful and they're aren't particular good trick plays.
They clearly emptied the trick play book for Nebraska.

This is just a thought, I think the offensive and defensive playbooks are 100% Al Golden's. This offense is extremely similar to when Fisch was here.
I'm not giving Coley a pass here but maybe that's why he's having a hard time calling plays. Calling plays with someone else's playbook is tough. (I do realize they mentioned that they wanted continuity with the playbook when Jedd left.)
The reason why I bring this up is the trick plays look identical to the ones Miami used with Fisch around too. If that's the case, then Golden has to learn not to be a control freak (among other things), with him controlling the D and O playbooks and doing ST, he doesn't trust anyone and with all the micro managing he does.

Maybe someone could check out the offense that was run at Temple and compare it to our and see what schemes they use there for a comparative analysis. I can do it but it wouldn't be done for another week. Just food for thought.
 
Arehel said:
hurricanefreak said:
Maybe it was to take time out of Nebraskas practice because they would have to learn to defend them?? Not sure why he would call so many, especially against Arkansas St.... it's the only reason I can think of.
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That's exactly why. Makes coaches spend time in film and makes players and coaches spend time at practice learning it, just in case.
Unfortunately, the timing was awful and they're aren't particular good trick plays.
They clearly emptied the trick play book for Nebraska.

This is just a thought, I think the offensive and defensive playbooks are 100% Al Golden's. This offense is extremely similar to when Fisch was here.
I'm not giving Coley a pass here but maybe that's why he's having a hard time calling plays. Calling plays with someone else's playbook is tough. (I do realize they mentioned that they wanted continuity with the playbook when Jedd left.)
The reason why I bring this up is the trick plays look identical to the ones Miami used with Fisch around too. If that's the case, then Golden has to learn not to be a control freak (among other things), with him controlling the D and O playbooks and doing ST, he doesn't trust anyone and with all the micro managing he does.

Maybe someone could check out the offense that was run at Temple and compare it to our and see what schemes they use there for a comparative analysis. I can do it but it wouldn't be done for another week. Just food for thought.
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They never said they would have the same playbook as when Fisch was here, and they don't. They said last year they would use a lot of the same terminology as to not confuse the players. Big difference.
 
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coley said he saw something on film that made him think arkansas state's defense would be vulnerable to big counter action on a trick play.

we scored enough points so who really cares but hopefully we won't go with them so liberally since none of them have worked so far.
 
Logically, that would be the train of thought. Throw every ****** trick play out there that you have just to try to get them to keep a safety deep to respect that effort. This ideally opens the defense up to get Duke some running room. I wouldn't be surprised to see us use a trick play or a bomb on the first play just for that reason.....

But thats logic speaking.....

Who the **** really knows...lol
 
FRCane said:
While I agree that the timing of them was awful ... it is definitely something coaches try to do before a big game. It gives opposing DC's one more thing they have to prepare for. I actually think it was good to call the trick plays, just the timing and execution was so awful that I'm sure it didn't scare Pellini too much.
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When is the timing of a trick play ever good when it doesn't work? Sean Payton's onside kick in the Super Bowl came at a great time because it worked. I've never seen anyone applaud a trick play for its "great timing" when it didn't work.
 
It's junior varsity bull**** IMO. If you are gonna run that garbage then you save it for big games. We ran two trick plays against ASU when we should just dominate them with our regular offense.

Here's an idea, how bout you make your REGULAR concepts tricky for defenses to pick up like the great offensive teams do.

A well-trained defense doesn't fall for that garbage anyway. If I'm a DB who's reading his keys properly then i know it's a pass regardless of a hand off or reverse.
 
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