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Trevor Lawrence NOT opting out

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fresssh said:
The main guy i was surprised we had leave early was Bandy. He loves the U, and could of benefited By staying another Year. Deejay is a true cane, but il never fault an RB for leaving early.
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he said he had to for his family. needed the money. he knew the risks when he declared. maybe if we paid them we could get them to stick around
 
hoops156 said:
dude it has a lot to do w where youre from and who youre surrounded by. LT and marshall will leave early too if they pan out
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Oh so you are saying that kids from "urban areas" in S Fl don't have the same code of ethics as respectable kids from the heartland. And the S Fl kids are surrounded by "thugs" who don't teach integrity or value team work.


What's that? Do I hear a dogwhistle?
 
TimeB0mb said:
Oh so you are saying that kids from "urban areas" in S Fl don't have the same code of ethics as kids from the heartland. And they are surrounded by "thugs" who don't teach integrity or team work .


What's that? Do I hear a dogwhistle?
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no but you showed your true colors by associating it with race. im from miami so dont try that **** on me. never once did i say that but your own racial bias is showing with that statement. also, lmao at ******* ethics. jesus, you guys are up in your feelings.

in sfl, the dream is to make it big in football bc so many before them do make it. you hear about all the miami and sfl kids in the league. they come back home and work out with these same kids in the offseason, as well (Ocho cinco AB etc). these kids know they have the talent to make it big and are told it every day. has nothing to do w any of the **** you said. further, stop trying to bring ethics into a football decision. youre a ******* ridiculous little human w that.
 
hoops156 said:
no but you showed your true colors by associating it with race. im from miami so dont try that **** on me. never once did i say that but your own racial bias is showing with that statement.
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You literally just claimed LT and Marshall would leave early because of where they are from and who they are surrounded by. I doubt you know them personally so your assertion is based purely on where they are from and the people you assume are around them. That's called stereotyping. Don't get mad at me for your own words.
 
hoops156 said:
he could literally be all of those things. you haven't met him nor do you know him.
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You're so wrong.

I've met him - through other men with the same characteristics. Rosario Valencia - gutshot - and I was yelling for another vest of 40's - he was the one that went back, got another vest, crawled back to me and handed it over. I damned near died when I realized what he did to get me those rounds.

Lots of men like that. There's the easy way - a way out - and no one could blame them for taking it - but nope. They cowboy up, and put their *** right back into the fight.

I feel sorry for you that you've never known men that readily expend themselves to help their brothers succeed.

I'm sorry you've never known much about farming. That farmer plants X number of bushels of seed - and come Fall - he doesn't harvest the same number of seeds he planted - he gets back multiples of what he planted.

And if he plants soybeans, he doesn't harvest wheat. He gets back many multiples of exactly what he sowed.

Yeah - I've met lots of Trevors. We have another one at UM - he's an NFL Hall of Famer. From Louisiana.

Same mind set. Same selflessness. Same concerns for his team members - and he expended himself every time he had the chance - for others - and became a man of greatness.
 
hoops156 said:
he could literally be all of those things. you haven't met him nor do you know him.
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Greg quit on his teammates. He saw a payday (much less than what Lawrence's will be) and used covid as an easy out. At least its not a 5th round - undrafted projection like past Canes. We need to get rid of this mentality that has been plaguing us for years and get guys who loves football. We used to have guys like these.
 
TimeB0mb said:
You literally just claimed LT and Marshall would leave early because of where they are from and who they are surrounded by. I doubt you know them personally so your assertion is based purely on where they are from and the people you assume are around them. That's called stereotyping. Don't get mad at me for your own words.
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why dont you read my reply. i never once said it was bc of thugs round them you did. in fact geta never even mentioned that either. he was saying the same thing i did -- these kids train and are around the guys that came before them that make it big into the league or even for a cup of coffee but still make it. they strive to make it to the league.
 
hoops156 said:
no one will stay past their junior year if theyre legit. it just wont happen. go geta literally knows some of these kids and their backgrounds. may wanna listen vs hypothesizing on something you dont know about
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I think it really depends on the player & situation. While it's true that both winning & losing programs have JR's who decide to enter the draft early, on winning teams there's typically more players who decide to come back for their SR yr despite receiving an early rd grade from the NFL. In order for MIA to take the next step we need players that decide to come back for their SR yr, not only because they received a low or mid rd grade, but because they're in pursuit of winning and becoming the best player they can possibly be. There has to be the right balance on the roster. The successful teams have it. I wasn't hypothesizing about anything. I was speaking facts based on surveying the current landscape of CFB
 
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Some of y'all are attempting to preach what a "winner" is to dudes who have never played a snap of football in their life nor care to. Try telling that to actual players and watch them laugh in your faces LOL. Then saying that Greg is a selfish loser because he opted out smh. If there wasn't a deadly virus out there I'd somewhat agree with you but there is, that's the anomaly here. Some players MAY see this as an out to avoid playing so that they can prepare for the Draft while other players may have underlying illnesses or family/friends that have passed or are severely sick from this disease.

As far as the juniors staying for their senior seasons, which player in the past that left early was going to help get us to a NC? Bandy staying was going to fix our OL and inconsistent receivers? LSU, OSU, Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc are in playoff contention every year not because they're returning a boatload of juniors, but because they recruit and develop players behind those juniors well. It definitely could help but that's not why we've been so average for almost two decades.

Nine players, who could have stayed,"quit" on LSU after winning a NC. I wonder if their fans call the players out of their names and speculate why they didn't stay or do they get excited because the younger guys behind those players will help put the team right back into contention.
 
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CanesFan93 said:
Some of y'all are attempting to preach what a "winner" is to dudes who have never played a snap of football in their life nor care to. Try telling that to actual players and watch them laugh in your faces LOL. Then saying that Greg is selfish and loser because he opted out smh. If there wasn't a deadly virus out there I'd somewhat agree with you but there is, that's the anomaly here. Some players MAY see this as an out to avoid playing so that they can prepare for the Draft while other players may have underlying illnesses or family/friends that have passed or are severely sick from this disease.

As far as the juniors staying for their senior seasons, which player in the past that left early was going to help get us to a NC? Bandy staying was going to fix our OL and inconsistent receivers? LSU, OSU, Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc are in playoff contention every year not because they're returning a boatload of juniors, but because they recruit and develop players behind those juniors well. It definitely could help but that's not why we've been so average for almost two decades.

Nine players, who could have stayed,"quit" on LSU after winning a NC. I wonder if their fans call the players out of their names and speculate why they didn't stay or do they get excited because the younger guys behind those players will help put the team right back into contention.
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That is not the same when draft eligible players leave early. Everyone knew greg was gone at end of season and we would of gave him his roses on the way out, heck most would help push him out. What would be comparable is if they sat out last season.. Greg has the right to leave and people have a right to have their opinion. Him leaving and then going on media tour with family to say he is scared of dying of covid because he weighs 265 is just ridiculous. Just say Rosenhaus showed up and me and my family made a decision. End of story. Not freaking I am scared of covid, I might die. thats spitting on people and saying its rain.

Is he gonna shelter in place til Covid disappears? Will he hide til draft time in bunker? What if covid is still around til next year will he lose weight to play or sit out? Will he train with other people, Is he testing every single person around him everyday and whoever is around them?
 
The Franchise said:
He's a winner that's why. He loves football and loves playing for his guys. We need to bring in more guys who love football.
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Gimme a Rusty Medearis over GR.

Watched a lot of Rusty's footage. There are some guys that play that you can tell, absolutely are having the time of their lives.

GR will be a NFL guy, no doubt about it and I'm happy he's getting his money.
 
CanesFan93 said:
Some of y'all are attempting to preach what a "winner" is to dudes who have never played a snap of football in their life nor care to. Try telling that to actual players and watch them laugh in your faces LOL. Then saying that Greg is a selfish loser because he opted out smh. If there wasn't a deadly virus out there I'd somewhat agree with you but there is, that's the anomaly here. Some players MAY see this as an out to avoid playing so that they can prepare for the Draft while other players may have underlying illnesses or family/friends that have passed or are severely sick from this disease.

As far as the juniors staying for their senior seasons, which player in the past that left early was going to help get us to a NC? Bandy staying was going to fix our OL and inconsistent receivers? LSU, OSU, Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc are in playoff contention every year not because they're returning a boatload of juniors, but because they recruit and develop players behind those juniors well. It definitely could help but that's not why we've been so average for almost two decades.

Nine players, who could have stayed,"quit" on LSU after winning a NC. I wonder if their fans call the players out of their names and speculate why they didn't stay or do they get excited because the younger guys behind those players will help put the team right back into contention.
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1.) While it's true there's currently a pandemic, It also cannot be disputed that MIA players choose to forego their SR yr despite receiving mid to low rd grades from the NFL at an alarming rate.

2.) What would've happened last yr if Joe Burrow decided not to come back for his Sr yr? Would LSU have won the NC? Christian Wilkins & Clelin Ferrell didn't help Clemson win the NC 2 yrs ago??

3.) Leaving early for the NFL is always easier to justify when your team wins a NC, than if you're currently playing on a dumpster fire, which only reinforces all of the pts that i've made in this thread.
 
skyman said:
That is not the same when draft eligible players leave early. Everyone knew greg was gone at end of season and we would of gave him his roses on the way out, heck most would help push him out. What would be comparable is if they sat out last season.. Greg has the right to leave and people have a right to have their opinion. Him leaving and then going on media tour with family to say he is scared of dying of covid because he weighs 265 is just ridiculous. Just say Rosenhaus showed up and me and my family made a decision. End of story. Not freaking I am scared of covid, I might die. thats spitting on people and saying its rain.

Is he gonna shelter in place til Covid disappears? Will he hide til draft time in bunker? What if covid is still around til next year will he lose weight to play or sit out? Will he train with other people, Is he testing every single person around him everyday and whoever is around them?
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Well of course it isn't the same. That doesn't change the fact that a school like PSU is praising Parsons with his decision, not upset about something out of their control. You do have a right to your opinion just like I have a right to say that you have no basis for your opinion. You're speculating and formulating every negative thought that you can muster because you're upset.

I, unlike yourself, can acknowledge that I don't know what he'll do for shelter or training. Let's wait it out and see. Suggesting what you think he will and won't do doesn't change the decision. There are people much more knowledgeable than both you and I who perhaps advised Greg on the pros and cons of playing or training yet Greg made what he believed was the best decision.
 
CanesFan93 said:
Well of course it isn't the same. That doesn't change the fact that a school like PSU is praising Parsons with his decision, not upset about something out of their control. You do have a right to your opinion just like I have a right to say that you have no basis for your opinion. You're speculating and formulating every negative thought that you can muster because you're upset.

I, unlike yourself, can acknowledge that I don't know what he'll do for shelter or training. Let's wait it out and see. Suggesting what you think he will and won't do doesn't change the decision. There are people much more knowledgeable than both you and I who perhaps advised Greg on the pros and cons of playing or training yet Greg made what he believed was the best decision.
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Not speculating or suggesting anything, I just asked a normal followup questions for someone who is afraid of tested players. Heck there might not even be a season at all, let alone a full one. You go ahead and move goal post tho..
 
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He has no reason to opt out. He has insurance in case of a serious injury and based on two seasons and an ACC schedule it is almost unthinkable that his performance would drop him out of the top half of the first round. Even when players regress their last season they don't fall out of the first round. Look at Tua and the Oregon quarterback.

college will be the best time of his life. He's living his life. Let him enjoy it.
 
Apex Predator said:
1.) While it's true there's currently a pandemic, It also cannot be disputed that MIA players choose to forego their SR yr despite receiving a mid to low rd grade from the NFL at an alarming rate.

2.) What would've happened last yr if Joe Burrow decided not to come back for his Sr yr? Would LSU have won the NC? Christian Wilkins & Clelin Ferrell didn't help Clemson win the NC 2 yrs ago??

3.) Leaving early for the NFL is always easier to justify when your team wins a NC, than if you're currently playing on a dumpster fire, which only reinforces all of the pts that i've made in this thread.
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1. They sure enough do. I don't believe now is the time to try to stand on that, especially when we have a legit 1st round prospect. Shaq and Pinck stayed so hopefully that starts to set precedence.

2. Good question. I think LSU's offense would have still been among the best but they maybe don't win the NC. Then again, we are talking about the most important position on the field. Much different from a lone DE. Joe also didn't have much of a choice considering he was quite average before last year. Wilkins and Ferrell for sure helped, they weren't the main reason why Clemson won a Natty.

3. I unfortunately didn't see all of your points.
 
skyman said:
Not speculating or suggesting anything, I just asked a normal followup questions for someone who is afraid of tested players. Heck there might not even be a season at all, let alone a full one. You go ahead and move goal post tho..
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That's for Greg to answer not myself. And as I've said, there's a possibility that he already answered those questions with actual professionals.
 
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