2027 Tre Moore 4* WR from Pflugerville, TX (Weiss HS)

[AtlAtty]

Why were they unrealistic statements? You believe that we weren’t leading for DJ Jacobs and MJC up until shortly before they announced? So everyone from our local writers to the national writers were wrong? Did both local and national writers not have us as favorites for Matthews? Did our local guys not feel we get either Matthews or Olu for a stretch there?

I’m sorry but this is just retro reframing of what happened. Again, I said the class itself is very good, if you want to get into semantics and felt I should have said amazing or elite, fine… now here come the NIL budget platitudes as though most in here don’t understand it at this point. Based on the info we are getting from DMoney, and I’ll stand by saying he isn’t a 3 card Monty dealer, the only one were we just passed on was Olu.

Again, great class as is but we the taken some gut punches as we were hopeful to have a shot at a historic class.

I don’t think UM will ever sign 5 (5) star recruits in today’s recruiting climate wherein 20-30 teams have enough money to go heavy on a recruit. I just think this is a completely unrealistic position to take.

We have an NIL budget. UM can’t afford to outbid everyone for 5-6 players. No school can (maybe TAMU but unlikely). So the wealth of availability of really good recruits gets spread around between those 20-30 schools. ND valued Olu more than we did. Auburn valued MJC more than we did.
We valued Abrams more than any other school.

And that my friend is how NIL recruiting works in a free market NIL economy which we are in. So yes you need to put on ear muffs when DMoney or Flo start talking about the (5) 5 stars we will sign. it’s not happening, and there is no reason to fall for what they are selling. And there is no reason to set yourself up for disappointment when you should be ecstatic with this current class. DMoney and Flo and everyone else making predictions have a vested business interest in your listening to and discussing what they have said, whether they are right or wrong is almost besides the point.

Take everything they say to you and ask yourself “what does he stand to gain by telling me this”? Once you consistently ask and answer this question you will find tranquility.

 

[skeeter]

I mean we have been going after a lot of WRs the last couple weeks…The Cali kids, looking at the GA and Ill kids, etc

Especially when you combine that with the fact that they will probably be happy with a 2 man class (off of 4 last year +Vaughn)…I'm sure they'd take 3 if the right two more fall in their lap, but I think two is more realistic off of last year. DMoney has said repeatedly they love the current WR room for the future.

So it's not like the coaches weren't giving signs that they know they are in a dogfight here.

 

[bobbydigius]

I don’t think UM will ever sign 5 (5) star recruits in today’s recruiting climate wherein 20-30 teams have enough money to go heavy on a recruit. I just think this is a completely unrealistic position to take.

We have an NIL budget. UM can’t afford to outbid everyone for 5-6 players. No school can (maybe TAMU but unlikely). So the wealth of availability of really good recruits gets spread around between those 20-30 schools. ND valued Olu more than we did. Auburn valued MJC more than we did.
We valued Abrams more than any other school.

And that my friend is how NIL recruiting works in a free market NIL economy which we are in. So yes you need to put on ear muffs when DMoney or Flo start talking about the (5) 5 stars we will sign. it’s not happening, and there is no reason to fall for what they are selling. And there is no reason to set yourself up for disappointment when you should be ecstatic with this current class. DMoney and Flo and everyone else making predictions have a vested business interest in your listening to and discussing what they have said, whether they are right or wrong is almost besides the point.

Take everything they say to you and ask yourself “what does he stand to gain by telling me this”? Once you consistently ask and answer this question you will find tranquility.

The passive aggressive condensing nonsense is completely uncalled for here. You are acting like this class is 25 prospects plus already and we are out of money. These are players we wanted and were willing to spend on, sure we won’t get everyone but it doesn’t make losing on kids like Jacobs, MJC, Muhammad, Folo or Matthews not gut punches.

In the end you and I clearly have a value parallax on a nebulous budgetary structure. I believe that landing 1 or 2 of the guys I mentioned should have happened, you believe we it just wasn’t possible from the jump. We don’t know what these kids are getting paid or the exact war chest we have outside of some unsubstantiated numbers being floated here and there.

I believe that Miami getting a class that hits 300 points is what was realistic this cycle and that is what I am still hopeful for, the best class on paper under the Mario regime. Getting 1 or 2 of those guys would have gone a long way and all I said was that despite the class being very good, there was disappointment there.

 

[RVACane]

No JZcane you are the weakest link!

 

[BishopEli]

The passive aggressive condensing nonsense is completely uncalled for here. You are acting like this class is 25 prospects plus already and we are out of money. These are players we wanted and were willing to spend on, sure we won’t get everyone but it doesn’t make losing on kids like Jacobs, MJC, Muhammad, Folo or Matthews not gut punches.

In the end you and I clearly have a value parallax on a nebulous budgetary structure. I believe that landing 1 or 2 of the guys I mentioned should have happened, you believe we it just wasn’t possible from the jump. We don’t know what these kids are getting paid or the exact war chest we have outside of some unsubstantiated numbers being floated here and there.

I believe that Miami getting a class that hits 300 points is what was realistic this cycle and that is what I am still hopeful for, the best class on paper under the Mario regime. Getting 1 or 2 of those guys would have gone a long way and all I said was that despite the class being very good, there was disappointment there.

Did you call someone else passive aggressive and then use the words parallax and nebulous in the same sentence?

 

[bobbydigius]

Did you call someone else passive aggressive and then use the words parallax and nebulous in the same sentence?

Nebulous is grade level word but I’ll give you parallax, not sure how that is passive aggressive though? Dude did come with back to back posts with clear condescending tones, was I out of line calling it out?

 

[Orpheus]

I don’t think UM will ever sign 5 (5) star recruits in today’s recruiting climate wherein 20-30 teams have enough money to go heavy on a recruit. I just think this is a completely unrealistic position to take.

We have an NIL budget. UM can’t afford to outbid everyone for 5-6 players. No school can (maybe TAMU but unlikely). So the wealth of availability of really good recruits gets spread around between those 20-30 schools. ND valued Olu more than we did. Auburn valued MJC more than we did.
We valued Abrams more than any other school.

And that my friend is how NIL recruiting works in a free market NIL economy which we are in. So yes you need to put on ear muffs when DMoney or Flo start talking about the (5) 5 stars we will sign. it’s not happening, and there is no reason to fall for what they are selling. And there is no reason to set yourself up for disappointment when you should be ecstatic with this current class. DMoney and Flo and everyone else making predictions have a vested business interest in your listening to and discussing what they have said, whether they are right or wrong is almost besides the point.

Take everything they say to you and ask yourself “what does he stand to gain by telling me this”? Once you consistently ask and answer this question you will find tranquility.

This is the best take for ppl on the recruiting board. Keep your recruiting expectation level headed.

 

[supacane]

This is the best take for ppl on the recruiting board. Keep your recruiting expectation level headed.

Lets be real though. We were led to believe Zesty and MJC were Miami's to lose. That's what raised the expectations of the irrational people. Personally i dont care what D$ or the staff say, i believe it when i see it. I seen enough to know these are battles.

I posted some time ago that i will believe it when i see it with Brysen Wright, and people responded that i should let the trauma from the past go. This period shows why i will never let it go.

 

[Hoyacane1620]

Why were they unrealistic statements? You believe that we weren’t leading for DJ Jacobs and MJC up until shortly before they announced? So everyone from our local writers to the national writers were FOS? Did both local and national writers not have us as favorites for Matthews? Did our local guys not feel we get either Matthews or Olu for a stretch there?

I’m sorry but this is just retro reframing of what happened. Again, I said the class itself is very good, if you want to get into semantics and felt I should have said amazing or elite, fine…

Then here come the NIL budget platitude as though most in here don’t understand it at this point. Based on the info we are getting from DMoney, and I’ll stand by saying he isn’t a 3 card Monty dealer, the only one were we just passed on was Olu.

Again, great class as is but we have taken some gut punches as we were hopeful to have a shot at a historic class.

Mario isn't about being the highest bidder for every guy. He's pretty selective about that - we've seen it.

 

[TrumpyCane]

Mirabal and Lewis are the weak links rn

 

[252cane]

Why were they unrealistic statements? You believe that we weren’t leading for DJ Jacobs and MJC up until shortly before they announced? So everyone from our local writers to the national writers were wrong? Did both local and national writers not have us as favorites for Matthews? Did our local guys not feel we get either Matthews or Olu for a stretch there?

I’m sorry but this is just retro reframing of what happened. Again, I said the class itself is very good, if you want to get into semantics and felt I should have said amazing or elite, fine… now here come the NIL budget platitudes as though most in here don’t understand it at this point. Based on the info we are getting from DMoney, and I’ll stand by saying he isn’t a 3 card Monty dealer, the only one were we just passed on was Olu.

Again, great class as is but we the taken some gut punches as we were hopeful to have a shot at a historic class.

I don’t think UM will ever sign 5 (5) star recruits in today’s recruiting climate wherein 20-30 teams have enough money to go heavy on a recruit. I just think this is a completely unrealistic position to take.

We have an NIL budget. UM can’t afford to outbid everyone for 5-6 players. No school can (maybe TAMU but unlikely). So the wealth of availability of really good recruits gets spread around between those 20-30 schools. ND valued Olu more than we did. Auburn valued MJC more than we did.
We valued Abrams more than any other school.

And that my friend is how NIL recruiting works in a free market NIL economy which we are in. So yes you need to put on ear muffs when DMoney or Flo start talking about the (5) 5 stars we will sign. it’s not happening, and there is no reason to fall for what they are selling. And there is no reason to set yourself up for disappointment when you should be ecstatic with this current class. DMoney and Flo and everyone else making predictions have a vested business interest in your listening to and discussing what they have said, whether they are right or wrong is almost besides the point.

Take everything they say to you and ask yourself “what does he stand to gain by telling me this”? Once you consistently ask and answer this question you will find tranquility.

A&m has 5 5 stars right now according to on3

 

[nycane]

A&m has 5 5 stars right now according to on3

And still won’t make an conference title game

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

Did you call someone else passive aggressive and then use the words parallax and nebulous in the same sentence?

Yes.

If you’re going to use words like nebulous and parallax, you should also be smart enough to not read tone into written communication without being 100% certain. Based on your question that I answered with “yes,” you’re not 100% certain.

@AtlAtty is not my daddy. I didn’t get some goon order to comment. He is however a pretty fair porster. I also don’t think your positions are nearly as diametrically opposed as you might think.

Go Canes.

 

[TheATLCane]

This is the best take for ppl on the recruiting board. Keep your recruiting expectation level headed.

And remember that next year when people start talking about Miami is in the running for the #1 overall class

 

[TOcane]

Roach posted something different yesterday


— A top three of Ohio State, Washington, and Miami has emerged for Top247 Pflugerville (Texas) WR Tre Moore. Miami and Washington are seen as the major threats for Moore, and sources give the Huskies the edge for the big-bodied receiver. Moore will visit Miami on May 29 and Washington on June 19. There's not yet a date for his Ohio State visit, but it would most logically be on either the June 5 or June 12 weekends. Miami could make a push, but the buzz behind Washington is tough to ignore at this point.

Class is very good right now as it stands but it’s hard to ignore all the losses that we were led to believe we were either trending for or at the very least right in the thick of things.

I would call being in top 2s in the thick of things. We have 3 top 30 players in May and haven’t had that ever. We will miss it’s what happens in sales. Best part about Mario is when we miss there is another plan A most times.

 

[ShadowSpring]

This would be about as good a wr class as we could ever hope for.

 

[Combo]

This is the best take for ppl on the recruiting board. Keep your recruiting expectation level headed.

Yup. Anyone who's followed recruiting for a while knows that you have to take the predictions of the Canes' writers and podcasters with a grain of salt. Those guys virtually always present our standing with prospective recruits in an overly favorably light. They put out "mock classes" that are generally very unlikely to happen.

That said, you have to be crazy to complain our recruiting class thus far -- we have three freakin five stars and we are in the running for a few more.

 

[AtlAtty]

A&m has 5 5 stars right now according to on3

They likely have the biggest NIL budget this year. Some schools go all-in every few years. TAMU did the same thing about 5 years ago when they signed all the 5star DLine and Nick Saban called them out for buying players with NIL. That was about the time that Saban retired.

But if you look over the years in between, TAMU didn’t sign (5) 5 stars every year. It’s more like every 4-5th year they go for it like they are doing this year.

Truthfully with good evals we should never, ever need more than (3) 5 stars per recruiting season to be a playoff team, especially with the playoff expanding to 16 or 24 teams.

So expect us in the running for (8-10) 5 stars per season and we sign (2-4) for an average of 3. Then if you hit on your 4 stars and get lucky with a few 3 stars, and you are really good with your portal evals, you make the playoffs every season. Within some range of this is what I expect MC to put together every year.