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Tracy Howard Interview on Time at Miami

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Did you realize every team we sneeze we get a PI

Teams could rape Sebastian after scoring a TD throw down a U and no flag would be thrown
I agree with your statement but there's a difference in what I'm saying. For example, Howard breaking up a pass and clapping at a WR is not the same as us getting our butts kicked and Nesta pushing a QBs head down to the ground and then standing over him talking ish on 3rd down. There's an "ok" time and there's a bad time.
 

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The idea that players were nonchalant about losing is hardly limited to Miami. Despite what fans want to believe most of these kids’ lives don’t 100% revolve around football. Kids at the top programs may be more affected by losses because they’re rare so it hurts a lot more. When you’re at a program that’s not winning at a really high level, you tend to care less and less about losing the more it happens. It’s human nature. I mean could you imagine if the kids at Akron got emotionally crushed every time they lost? The whole program would be on suicide watch.
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Scheme didn't help him but he wasn't great he had everything for an elite db but he had one weakness and the major one....speed. it's why a guy like Bush can bs his way to the league he's athletic and can play fast.
 

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He got nfl coaching and still was slow that was never getting fixed. The scheme her didn't help him either
 

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So let me address this, as I already knew u were going to say this. I was initially going to bring up this point & said, nah...I’ll wait for this line of reason to be used in response. Lol

So let’s be very clear; if U’re not drafted by a NFL team, u already have a huge hurdle ahead of you. It’s already a hurdle as a late draft pick, but it’s an extreme hurdle as a UDFA (hence, the % of those guys making it on a team & sticking on the team is extremely low).

Here’s why; the NFL is a NOW league. They are not a developmental league; that’s what CFB is for. Typically the guys who are UDFA who make it & stay on a NFL roster come from either mid major schools, HBCUs or D-1AA. Why? B/c those players don’t get the exposure that ur P5 schools do (w/ exception to their QBs, and that’s only one or two guys from the entire group who gets recognition per yr). So those guys r not getting drafted, not b/c they can’t play, as opposed to being overlooked.

However, if u r a UDFA from a P5 school, the likelihood of staying on a NFL roster is slim to none. U are already behind the 8 ball, as drafted players r going get first priority. 2nd, if u received piss poor coaching on the collegiate level, they r not going to have time for you to wait & develop, not when u have no guaranteed $$ from them. So their investment in u is minimal. Using The NFL as a means to judge why Howard wouldn’t have done well at another collegiate program is extremely disingenuous.

Then again a good/great player can overcome shitty coaching

Burns was coached by the same guys and got drafted 1st round because he was an athlete and Tracy simply wasn’t
 

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Then again a good/great player can overcome shitty coaching

Burns was coached by the same guys and got drafted 1st round because he was an athlete and Tracy simply wasn’t

U’re absolutely right; Artie was an athlete & was drafted in the 1st round b/c he was a sub 4.5 guy w/ nice length. He also had a stellar Jr season, w/ 6 ints.

Regardless, that’s not the point. If Artie is an athlete, & has the speed to play off a man, good for him. Maybe, just maybe he was a great fit for what D’No wanted to run. However, if Tracy’s strength is B&R, freelancing based up film study (see his Sophomore yr), and that’s taken away from him, then guess what? He wasn’t a fit here.

Do u know y Artie keeps getting a shot on a NFL team? B/c he’s a 1st round pick, meaning he’s labeled as a potential player. Teams will continue to take a flyer on him for a couple more yrs til his “potential” label becomes bust. Tracy was a UDFA; no UDFA gets a “potential” label unless they break through.

There’s a great research paper on this; it’s called “Going Undrafted” by Trey Smith. The UDFA that most likely survives after the first 3 yrs are K, P, & DLmen.

So again, I agree w/ u on Artie...Artie’s ability was a good fit for what D’No’s broken system accomplished. Tracy’s ability was not a good fit; hence he was punished for trying to do things his way, and was considered a free lancer. Artie = Round Peg/Round Hole ; Tracy = Square Peg/Round Hole
 
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U’re absolutely right; Artie was an athlete & was drafted in the 1st round b/c he was a sub 4.5 guy w/ nice length. He also had a stellar Jr season, w/ 6 ints.

Regardless, that’s not the point. If Artie is an athlete, & has the speed to play off a man, good for him. Maybe, just maybe he was a great fit for what D’No wanted to run. However, if Tracy’s strength is B&R, freelancing based up film study (see his Sophomore yr), and that’s taken away from him, then guess what? He wasn’t a fit here.

Do u know y Artie keeps getting a shot on a NFL team? B/c he’s a 1st round pick, meaning he’s labeled as a potential player. Teams will continue to take a flyer on him for a couple more yrs til his “potential” label becomes bust. Tracy was a UDFA; no UDFA gets a “potential” label unless they break through.

There’s a great research paper on this; it’s called “Going Undrafted” by Trey Smith. The UDFA that most likely survives after the first 3 yrs are K, P, & DLmen.

So again, I agree w/ u on Artie...Artie’s ability was a good fit for what D’No’s broken system accomplished. Tracy’s ability was not a good fit; hence he was punished for trying to do things his way, and was considered a free lancer. Artie = Round Peg/Round Hole ; Tracy = Square Peg/Round Hole

There is also a great line in one of the Hard Knock seasons. To paraphrase once you make a roster every teM knows you were good enough to make a roster. If you didn’t make a roster they know that too.
 

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U’re absolutely right; Artie was an athlete & was drafted in the 1st round b/c he was a sub 4.5 guy w/ nice length. He also had a stellar Jr season, w/ 6 ints.

Regardless, that’s not the point. If Artie is an athlete, & has the speed to play off a man, good for him. Maybe, just maybe he was a great fit for what D’No wanted to run. However, if Tracy’s strength is B&R, freelancing based up film study (see his Sophomore yr), and that’s taken away from him, then guess what? He wasn’t a fit here.

Do u know y Artie keeps getting a shot on a NFL team? B/c he’s a 1st round pick, meaning he’s labeled as a potential player. Teams will continue to take a flyer on him for a couple more yrs til his “potential” label becomes bust. Tracy was a UDFA; no UDFA gets a “potential” label unless they break through.

There’s a great research paper on this; it’s called “Going Undrafted” by Trey Smith. The UDFA that most likely survives after the first 3 yrs are K, P, & DLmen.

So again, I agree w/ u on Artie...Artie’s ability was a good fit for what D’No’s broken system accomplished. Tracy’s ability was not a good fit; hence he was punished for trying to do things his way, and was considered a free lancer. Artie = Round Peg/Round Hole ; Tracy = Square Peg/Round Hole
Tracy was slow he would never be a first rounder or even possibly a high pick anywhere. Saban and those dbu schools were never after Tracy only two schools who can't evaluate. Uf and UM
 
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